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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:31 pm

Khataiy wrote:The Malaysian government did nothing wrong

I'll take the bait.

Why?
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Postby Duhon » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:33 pm

Khataiy wrote:The Malaysian government did nothing wrong


Actually, they did wrong. From a purely reiligous standpoint, I have every right to ridicule Islam and yet no right to harm a believer. From a tribalistic standpoint, well, you still are an onion.

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Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:33 pm

Khataiy wrote:The Malaysian government did nothing wrong

Well, as a one time citizen of that nation I never really cared for what the government did. The only thing I did was to work and pay taxes. The only problem I thought I had with the government was GST and 1MDB. I never paid much attention to the government section of the star but this was wrong. I guess when I was skimming over the headlines I saw things like this and they were absorbed into the deepest parts of my mind. I guess that's what caused me to move away. But yeah this is wrong. Very wrong.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:36 pm

Yusseria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:If your insult harms fruitful discussion, you should at least be fined.

There is no "fruitful" discussion going on in Malaysia. There is only theocratic authoritarianism.

Malaysia is a democracy.
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Postby Darussalam » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:37 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Khataiy wrote:The Malaysian government did nothing wrong

I'll take the bait.

Why?

Because the mob in Muslim countries are an unruly bunch that will just kill blasphemers in the absence of blasphemy law, and no Muslim country have sufficiently large state capacity to contain them.
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:38 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:There is no "fruitful" discussion going on in Malaysia. There is only theocratic authoritarianism.

Malaysia is a democracy.

They wont be happy until the country is a war zone governed by an autocracy of the most vile individuals from some kind of minority, and its drained of all of its resources and they can complain about more refugees until that happens Malaysia is a "totalitarian state that needs regime change".
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Postby Duhon » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:39 pm

Darussalam wrote:
Yusseria wrote:I'll take the bait.

Why?

Because the mob in Muslim countries are an unruly bunch that will just kill blasphemers in the absence of blasphemy law, and no Muslim country have sufficiently large state capacity to contain them.


This is southeast Asia, we don't do mobs over pious shit

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:39 pm

Khataiy wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Malaysia is a democracy.

They wont be happy until the country is a war zone governed by an autocracy of the most vile individuals from some kind of minority, and its trained of all of its resources and they can complain about more refugees until that happens Malaysia is a "totalitarian state that needs regime change".

Yep, that's the go-to strategy for Western "conservatives."
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Postby Duhon » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:39 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:There is no "fruitful" discussion going on in Malaysia. There is only theocratic authoritarianism.

Malaysia is a democracy.


Technically.

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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:39 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:There is no "fruitful" discussion going on in Malaysia. There is only theocratic authoritarianism.

Malaysia is a democracy.

It wouldn't be the first democracy to be authoritarian.
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Khataiy
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:41 pm

Yusseria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Malaysia is a democracy.

It wouldn't be the first democracy to be authoritarian.

It doesn't matter what it is, the government has a right to do what it does and no one has the right to stop them.

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Postby Darussalam » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:42 pm

Duhon wrote:
Darussalam wrote:Because the mob in Muslim countries are an unruly bunch that will just kill blasphemers in the absence of blasphemy law, and no Muslim country have sufficiently large state capacity to contain them.


This is southeast Asia, we don't do mobs over pious shit

Nonsense.
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:43 pm

Khataiy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:It wouldn't be the first democracy to be authoritarian.

It doesn't matter what it is, the government has a right to do what it does and no one has the right to stop them.

Where's this right listed?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:43 pm

Blasphemy laws are one of the stupidest human ideas in existence, but the whole deal with insulting religions as opposed to debating them with civility brings to mind the Jurassic Park quote.
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Khataiy
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:44 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Khataiy wrote:It doesn't matter what it is, the government has a right to do what it does and no one has the right to stop them.

Where's this right listed?

It is called a country's sovereignty

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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:45 pm

Khataiy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:It wouldn't be the first democracy to be authoritarian.

It doesn't matter what it is, the government has a right to do what it does and no one has the right to stop them.

I know the drill... no one has the right to stop them until the moment they try to stop me.

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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:46 pm

Khataiy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Where's this right listed?

It is called a country's sovereignty

And? That doesn't mean they have some magical right not to be interfered with.

And it certainly doesn't mean they're immune from criticism for their shitty laws.
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Khataiy
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:47 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Khataiy wrote:It is called a country's sovereignty

And? That doesn't mean they have some magical right not to be interfered with.

And it certainly doesn't mean they're immune from criticism for their shitty laws.

Go ahead and invade and "interfere" in Malaysia and regret it years latter it would be amusing.

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Postby Darussalam » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:48 pm

Khataiy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Where's this right listed?

It is called a country's sovereignty

I thought it's supposed to be a Western thagut
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Postby Yusseria » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:49 pm

Khataiy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:And? That doesn't mean they have some magical right not to be interfered with.

And it certainly doesn't mean they're immune from criticism for their shitty laws.

Go ahead and invade and "interfere" in Malaysia and regret it years latter it would be amusing.

Lmao okay.

You're pretending like they haven't been getting colonized since the 1500s.
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Postby Darussalam » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:50 pm

Khataiy wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Malaysia is a democracy.

They wont be happy until the country is a war zone governed by an autocracy of the most vile individuals from some kind of minority, and its drained of all of its resources and they can complain about more refugees until that happens Malaysia is a "totalitarian state that needs regime change".

It would be the best for the majority Malays to be actually displaced by the Chinese and the Indians, too bad that's not what's happening, and they did everything they could to prevent that happening.
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Khataiy
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Postby Khataiy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:50 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Khataiy wrote:Go ahead and invade and "interfere" in Malaysia and regret it years latter it would be amusing.

Lmao okay.

You're pretending like they haven't been getting colonized since the 1500s.

Lmao okay.

You're pretending like you could handle Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and like nearby powers wouldn't intervene and that you would face a huge refugee and economic crisis it would be hilarious.
Lmao okay.

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Postby Deutschess Kaiserreich » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:50 pm

Khataiy wrote:
Yusseria wrote:It wouldn't be the first democracy to be authoritarian.

It doesn't matter what it is, the government has a right to do what it does and no one has the right to stop them.

That's some Thomas Hobbs shit
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:50 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Khataiy wrote:Go ahead and invade and "interfere" in Malaysia and regret it years latter it would be amusing.

Lmao okay.

You're pretending like they haven't been getting colonized since the 1500s.

Do you think the Iraq War has gone well for the United States?
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Postby Darussalam » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:51 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Lmao okay.

You're pretending like they haven't been getting colonized since the 1500s.

Do you think the Iraq War has gone well for the United States?

Iraq War was a cakewalk, Americans just did a horrible job building nation there because they're leftists obsessed to the notion of one-man-one-vote democracy and writing a leftist constitution.
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