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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:27 pm

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New Sukberia wrote:I'm a "libéral" on the American term, actually a social democrat with nationalistic leaninngs. I hâte sjw because they are regressive. They aren't actually left wing or libéral.

And no, i don't support conservatives, but i'd rather NOT have to choose between the 2 of them.

Also Ben Shapiro has no logic or facts. He goes "facts befote feelings" but he Will shut you down if You even bring up Israel.



The Left-Libertarians called "SjWs" are left-wing, they are a variant that you dislike. Call yourself ant-idepol( anti- identity politics) instead, there are many leftist that agree with you (including me). Also the suppose movement is dominated by people that will call you a SjW.

Anti-idpol? Now that's just a joke. Politics is, from most points of view, a war between two groups or identities. Class, gender, race, ideology, ability (as in, able-bodied people against the disabled), power and so on. What is politics without idpol? Stop acting like an 'enlightened centrist' thank you very much.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:30 pm

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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:On what occasions have anti-SJWs expressed a desire to censor opinions they disagree with?

Sargon's attempt to petition universities to stop teaching social justice comes to mind.

And yet, in politics and economics, it's the right that has the advantage. Socialist professors are kicked out of universities for teaching their economics/politics class heterodox economy theory. Neoclassicalism and neoliberalism win in those areas, and by a long shot. Social justice is one of the less important fields when it comes to people's understand of politics. But economics and politics classes are the most important.
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Postby Aclion » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:35 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What is politics without idpol? Stop acting like an 'enlightened centrist' thank you very much.

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What is politics without idpol? Stop acting like an 'enlightened centrist' thank you very much.

A nation trying to find policies that make life better for everyone rather then just their group.


That's called socialism.
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Aclion wrote:A nation trying to find policies that make life better for everyone rather then just their group.


That's called socialism.

Socialism works for the workers, it is very much an identitarian political movement.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:50 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:What is politics without idpol? Stop acting like an 'enlightened centrist' thank you very much.

A nation trying to find policies that make life better for everyone rather then just their group.

Isn't identity politics referring to politics that use identity rather than a group pushing their goals?
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:51 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I'm seeing a lot of hate on anti-SJWs, and I watched a lot of a anti-SJW content back in 2016 and still do to some extent, so I kinda wanna defend them. But at the same time, it is true that many of them go after the left far more than the right, and many of them tend to be overly repeditive and uninspired. I can definitely see why they're disliked, especially since many of them appear to have gone of the rails since 2016.

I will however say this, more often than not, their hearts seem to be in the right place, they're more lucid in their commentary than mainstream politics, they're by no means reactionary or hateful, and they can generally be trusted to keep liberty as a main priority. In these aspects, they're kinda good.

Just quickly, because I gotta get to work:

If you think that things like activist campaigns at universities generate a stifling environment that shuts down opposing opinions and constitutes a threat to freedom of speech, you acknowledge that some forms of speech can effectively interfere with the expression of other forms of speech. Correct?

If so, then you can see how there is no 'pro liberty' side to these arguments. In practice, you make a choice, somewhere along a scale, based on which group gets to air its opinions without interference. Either you have left-wing activists stopping right-wingers from voicing their opinions, or you have right-wingers stopping left-wingers (or, more likely, groups defined by ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity) from voicing their opinions.

Now, I don't claim to know where exactly the optimal point along that scale actually is. It probably needs to be decided on a case by case basis. But it is completely naive to claim that there is one 'pro liberty' side to this argument, and that the other side is 'anti liberty'.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:05 pm

Is anybody tired of hearing about the alt-right?
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:06 pm

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Aclion wrote:A nation trying to find policies that make life better for everyone rather then just their group.


That's called socialism.

No it isn't.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:07 pm

Yusseria wrote:Is anybody tired of hearing about the alt-right?

Very much so, yes.
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:08 pm

I literally haven't heard about them since 2016. Maybe it's because I don't waste much time on NSG, though.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:09 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:I literally haven't heard about them since 2016. Maybe it's because I don't waste much time on NSG, though.

You'll hear a lot about people that the rest of the world doesn't care about here on NSG.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:14 pm

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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I'm seeing a lot of hate on anti-SJWs, and I watched a lot of a anti-SJW content back in 2016 and still do to some extent, so I kinda wanna defend them. But at the same time, it is true that many of them go after the left far more than the right, and many of them tend to be overly repeditive and uninspired. I can definitely see why they're disliked, especially since many of them appear to have gone of the rails since 2016.

I will however say this, more often than not, their hearts seem to be in the right place, they're more lucid in their commentary than mainstream politics, they're by no means reactionary or hateful, and they can generally be trusted to keep liberty as a main priority. In these aspects, they're kinda good.

Just quickly, because I gotta get to work:

If you think that things like activist campaigns at universities generate a stifling environment that shuts down opposing opinions and constitutes a threat to freedom of speech, you acknowledge that some forms of speech can effectively interfere with the expression of other forms of speech. Correct?

If so, then you can see how there is no 'pro liberty' side to these arguments. In practice, you make a choice, somewhere along a scale, based on which group gets to air its opinions without interference. Either you have left-wing activists stopping right-wingers from voicing their opinions, or you have right-wingers stopping left-wingers (or, more likely, groups defined by ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity) from voicing their opinions.

Now, I don't claim to know where exactly the optimal point along that scale actually is. It probably needs to be decided on a case by case basis. But it is completely naive to claim that there is one 'pro liberty' side to this argument, and that the other side is 'anti liberty'.

No, I don;t think that activist campaigns inherently generate a stifling environment that shuts down opposing opinions. Every group can air their opinions without interference.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:06 pm

Yusseria wrote:Is anybody tired of hearing about the alt-right?

Very much so, but they refuse to shut up.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:06 pm

I'm tired having to hear about SJWs and Anti-SJWs.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:14 pm

Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.

"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.

Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:19 pm

New haven america wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Is anybody tired of hearing about the alt-right?

Very much so, but they refuse to shut up.

Are you crazy? I for one am eager to see Lauren Southern's sequel to "I'm in a Parisian neighbourhood and nobody is eating a baguette on the street!?!??! WHITE GENOCIDE CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!"
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:23 pm

Liriena wrote:
New haven america wrote:Very much so, but they refuse to shut up.

Are you crazy? I for one am eager to see Lauren Southern's sequel to "I'm in a Parisian neighbourhood and nobody is eating a baguette on the street!?!??! WHITE GENOCIDE CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!"

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Postby Auristania » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:22 pm

SJW are insignificant and have zero Political Power???

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:25 pm

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The Left-Libertarians called "SjWs" are left-wing, they are a variant that you dislike. Call yourself ant-idepol( anti- identity politics) instead, there are many leftist that agree with you (including me). Also the suppose movement is dominated by people that will call you a SjW.

Anti-idpol? Now that's just a joke. Politics is, from most points of view, a war between two groups or identities. Class, gender, race, ideology, ability (as in, able-bodied people against the disabled), power and so on. What is politics without idpol? Stop acting like an 'enlightened centrist' thank you very much.



I have nothing in common with centrist. In fact, I hate them. Identity Politics is simply valuing a certain identity over everything else. I don't value one group over another, because their are flaws with in them. I want to abolish class, racial,cultural and religious aspects of today's society. So i am anti- identity politics, because I want to abolish identities.
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Is anyone tired of an op using all caps to promote clickbait?
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:28 pm

Yusseria wrote:Is anybody tired of hearing about the alt-right?


You only hear about it so much when some random 20-30 year old kills so much people for racial beliefs.
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Benuty wrote:Is anyone tired of an op using all caps to promote clickbait?



no.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:29 pm

Aren't you the same guy who said "Brocalists" were a good group?

Secondly, while I agree Anti-SJWs are bad, SJWs are also bad as both are psychopathic extremist groups willing to gut the other side over what equates to stupid internet arguments.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:30 pm

As for identity politics once the main groups are dead, and rebuilding over the ashes begins there will be one small mercy granted. Anyone left will probably an have an ideological consensus for the sake of a new order.
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