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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:07 pm

Liriena wrote:
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So are most people. Mob mentality is a hell of a drug.

Complaining about "mob mentality" is peak mob mentality.


Commenting on the inherent nature of mob mentality and how we are all susceptible to it doesn't make for a complaint.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:12 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Eh, a really small minority of moors really. Like very small. I wouldn't be suprised if you'd see one in that time period considering the sheer minority of them

True, but it goes to show that the complaints had a point. In gamer culture in particular, and among many developers, there seems to be this weird thing where they uncritically confuse/conflate the demographics in modern cultural representations of history with history itself. That since movies and TV shows and the like have overwhelmingly depicted the West's pre-modern past as almost exclusively white, then that's what that past was actually like, and any deviation from that exclusive representation is an affront on history.

Honestly while I would think itd be neat to see some moorish whores, I don't think they would be relevant in the world of Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Sounds like work in the opposite direction of where the narrative tries to go.

On the other hand, I think that the developers made a rash response, and brought unnecessary attention to a minor detail.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:14 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Didn't say you were one. All I said is it sounded lime something thatd come out of a nazi or marxist mouth. :p




I find it lazy to treat communist and Fascist as the same. they have different goals and desires. I also don't like that people forget that sub-branches exist. Italian fascism is different from Nazism(still fascism). People also forget that a Marxist-Leninist differences with communist that complain "Not real socialism".

Yeah, I am quite familiar that italian fascism tends to be heavy authoritarian capitalist, but Germany was pretty authoritarian socialist at the time. The number one thing that trends among all of them is totalitarianism and a sort of propaganda either nationalism or revolutionary worker's propaganda.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:20 pm

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There will always be worse. However, I'm at least not Khmer Rouge. So be happy I'm not like Khmer Rouge.

What an utterly shite defence of your horrible, evil idea. Hang your head in shame.



I'm not "Evil". I simply want their to be equality and freedom for individuals in a society. I believe in the rule of law, three branches of government and positive rights. My beliefs are not that bad, because they are base on true social justice. I believe that people across the world, and of various backgrounds should enjoy a similar life.I won't put myself in shame, because This Liberal society allows me to have free speech. If you are libertarian of any kind, then their is no reason for me to conform to the masses.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:24 pm

In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism. Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:29 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Communal concils wrote:


I find it lazy to treat communist and Fascist as the same. they have different goals and desires. I also don't like that people forget that sub-branches exist. Italian fascism is different from Nazism(still fascism). People also forget that a Marxist-Leninist differences with communist that complain "Not real socialism".

Yeah, I am quite familiar that italian fascism tends to be heavy authoritarian capitalist, but Germany was pretty authoritarian socialist at the time. The number one thing that trends among all of them is totalitarianism and a sort of propaganda either nationalism or revolutionary worker's propaganda.


Actually it's more accurate to reverse that. Italian Fascist were the closest fascism has to socialism. However, Benito decided to purge his revolutionary supporters and abandon socialism. Nazism is a completely different breed, it takes ideals from across the spectrum. They pick National Socialism is only Socialist in name, and it's more corporatist in economic thought ( it wants the rich and the poor to work together, worker and capitalist mutually do things for each other). Nazis was more likely to use socialist rhetoric than Italian Socialism, and they did attract Pro-soviet individuals, how every they were purge.

Authoritarianism and Nationalism are not enough to describe fascism, it has many more tenants. These tenants go against what Marxist-Leninist states did and wanted.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:32 pm

Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.

"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.

Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.

What's fishhook theory?
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:33 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism. Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.



So how will this affect those that believe in the "great replacement" conspiracy theory.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:37 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.

"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.

Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.

What's fishhook theory?

New rose twitter meme not massively applicable to real life... it's like horseshoe theory except shaped like a fishhook lying on its side: a line from leftism to centrism, and then a curve coming in on itself to just above centrism reading 'fascism' because centrists are literally nazis
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:40 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Yeah, I am quite familiar that italian fascism tends to be heavy authoritarian capitalist, but Germany was pretty authoritarian socialist at the time. The number one thing that trends among all of them is totalitarianism and a sort of propaganda either nationalism or revolutionary worker's propaganda.


Actually it's more accurate to reverse that. Italian Fascist were the closest fascism has to socialism. However, Benito decided to purge his revolutionary supporters and abandon socialism. Nazism is a completely different breed, it takes ideals from across the spectrum. They pick National Socialism is only Socialist in name, and it's more corporatist in economic thought ( it wants the rich and the poor to work together, worker and capitalist mutually do things for each other). Nazis was more likely to use socialist rhetoric than Italian Socialism, and they did attract Pro-soviet individuals, how every they were purge.

Authoritarianism and Nationalism are not enough to describe fascism, it has many more tenants. These tenants go against what Marxist-Leninist states did and wanted.

Fascism's ultimate goal was to promote the state which is why nationalism and authoritarianism is such a major part of fascism. The other tenants are hard to describe because they weren't as much of a key factor to the main idealogy drive, which was promotion of the state

Communal concils wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism. Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.



So how will this affect those that believe in the "great replacement" conspiracy theory.

Probably intensify the belief really.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:48 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
Actually it's more accurate to reverse that. Italian Fascist were the closest fascism has to socialism. However, Benito decided to purge his revolutionary supporters and abandon socialism. Nazism is a completely different breed, it takes ideals from across the spectrum. They pick National Socialism is only Socialist in name, and it's more corporatist in economic thought ( it wants the rich and the poor to work together, worker and capitalist mutually do things for each other). Nazis was more likely to use socialist rhetoric than Italian Socialism, and they did attract Pro-soviet individuals, how every they were purge.

Authoritarianism and Nationalism are not enough to describe fascism, it has many more tenants. These tenants go against what Marxist-Leninist states did and wanted.

Fascism's ultimate goal was to promote the state which is why nationalism and authoritarianism is such a major part of fascism. The other tenants are hard to describe because they weren't as much of a key factor to the main idealogy drive, which was promotion of the state

Communal concils wrote:

So how will this affect those that believe in the "great replacement" conspiracy theory.

Probably intensify the belief really.





1. well, many criticism of the ideology are about it's vagueness and lack of theory(that's for Italian variant). It's more like the desire solely for power.

2. Europe would most likely be excluded from this. They have the same situation of immigration, but don't have a century long of forcing people of different skin pigments to stay in it's land.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:52 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:...moorish whores...

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Communal concils wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What an utterly shite defence of your horrible, evil idea. Hang your head in shame.



I'm not "Evil". I simply want their to be equality and freedom for individuals in a society. I believe in the rule of law, three branches of government and positive rights. My beliefs are not that bad, because they are base on true social justice. I believe that people across the world, and of various backgrounds should enjoy a similar life.I won't put myself in shame, because This Liberal society allows me to have free speech. If you are libertarian of any kind, then their is no reason for me to conform to the masses.

You are not advocating freedom, you are advocating forced homogeneity. You are advocating eugenics. There is no way to achieve what you want without committing genocide.


Holy Tedalonia wrote:In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism.

This poster wants everyone to be the same race and sex, don't fucking pretend that that's globalism.
Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.

"Mixed race" isn't homogeneous. Rather the opposite.


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Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.

"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.

Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.

What's fishhook theory?

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:13 pm

Ifreann wrote:

Communal concils wrote:

I'm not "Evil". I simply want their to be equality and freedom for individuals in a society. I believe in the rule of law, three branches of government and positive rights. My beliefs are not that bad, because they are base on true social justice. I believe that people across the world, and of various backgrounds should enjoy a similar life.I won't put myself in shame, because This Liberal society allows me to have free speech. If you are libertarian of any kind, then their is no reason for me to conform to the masses.

You are not advocating freedom, you are advocating forced homogeneity. You are advocating eugenics. There is no way to achieve what you want without committing genocide.




1.That's simply not true. I don't advocate for the complete extermination of ethnic groups.
As for Eugenics, It wouldn't call myself one. I do believe in trying to remove genes that hinder a development of a embryo, and I am Pro-natal. This does not mean that I advocate for exactly assigned marriage. I don't really seek to breed people like dogs, I want to just improve the human condition.

2. well, wouldn't need to do it at such a large scale. Maybe the world would do it for people that agree with me.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:17 pm

Communal concils wrote:
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You are not advocating freedom, you are advocating forced homogeneity. You are advocating eugenics. There is no way to achieve what you want without committing genocide.




1.That's simply not true. I don't advocate for the complete extermination of ethnic groups.

You want there to only be one ethnic group. You cannot possibly achieve that without genocide.
As for Eugenics, It wouldn't call myself one. I do believe in trying to remove genes that hinder a development of a embryo, and I am Pro-natal. This does not mean that I advocate for exactly assigned marriage. I don't really seek to breed people like dogs, I want to just improve the human condition.

So you are advocating eugenics.

2. well, wouldn't need to do it at such a large scale. Maybe the world would do it for people that agree with me.

No one agrees with you! What you are proposing is insane.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
1.That's simply not true. I don't advocate for the complete extermination of ethnic groups.

You want there to only be one ethnic group. You cannot possibly achieve that without genocide.
As for Eugenics, It wouldn't call myself one. I do believe in trying to remove genes that hinder a development of a embryo, and I am Pro-natal. This does not mean that I advocate for exactly assigned marriage. I don't really seek to breed people like dogs, I want to just improve the human condition.

So you are advocating eugenics.

2. well, wouldn't need to do it at such a large scale. Maybe the world would do it for people that agree with me.

No one agrees with you! What you are proposing is insane.


1.I am not proposing that, instead it's more like a cultural revolution. I seek to destroy the boundaries of old society. So the only logical way to unite people for a long time is to unite them in some way, this includes merging groups.

2. No. I don't want people to be breeded like dogs.

3. There are many people that are critical of race, and there are many that seeked to abolish race. At one time Paraguay did follow a policy of removing racial differences.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:43 pm

More like I’m tired of hearing from Anti-SJWs, picking the absolute lowest of the low hanging fruit to manufacture outrage from to rile up their fan bases in order to stay relevant.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:47 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You want there to only be one ethnic group. You cannot possibly achieve that without genocide.

So you are advocating eugenics.


No one agrees with you! What you are proposing is insane.


1.I am not proposing that, instead it's more like a cultural revolution. I seek to destroy the boundaries of old society. So the only logical way to unite people for a long time is to unite them in some way, this includes merging groups.

No, it doesn't. People can be different and yet united.

2. No. I don't want people to be breeded like dogs.

That is, necessarily, how one would cause people to all be the same race and sex.

3. There are many people that are critical of race, and there are many that seeked to abolish race. At one time Paraguay did follow a policy of removing racial differences.

But you can't abolish the differences between people without forcing them all to be the same.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:49 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:More like I’m tired of hearing from Anti-SJWs, picking the absolute lowest of the low hanging fruit to manufacture outrage from to rile up their fan bases in order to stay relevant.

See, this is what I said!
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:51 pm

Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.

"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.

Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.


The same political theory that the far-right uses to vilify centrists as paying lip service to conservative values while blatantly favouring the left?

The "centrists are literally Nazis/tankie" meme needs to jump off a bridge.

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Postby The Twelve Isles » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:53 pm

I would agree, Im pretty sick of hearing about anti SJW types, though thankfully I havent heard much of them lately. Still, I think that they are just whiners, who are scared of the way things are headed because it threatens their meager positions in society, but are too stupid to make any actual stand against it other than bullying and general meanness. Personally, I also find them frustrating because I tend to lean more right, especially on economic issues, but as soon as I mention that to anyone I get lumped in with dipsticks like them just because recently they have been the loudest members of the right leaning community. I personally dont support them, and most people I know who are a bit more conservative dont support them, but I still get lumped in with them because of their shitty actions and words.

Its frustrating to be lumped in with a bunch of loud, whiney man-children on the internet, and so Im thankful that they arent really that much of a thing anymore.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:54 pm

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Yusseria wrote:Is anybody tired of hearing about the alt-right?

Very much so, yes.

Honestly, I can't even figure out who they are - not with specificity anyway.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:08 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Very much so, yes.

Honestly, I can't even figure out who they are - not with specificity anyway.

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Postby Flaxxony » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:11 pm

I think that the whole movement is a bit puerile because it is so young.

I think that the rationale behind it was that the left had become so dominant and the right so impotent over the course of the latter half of the 20th century that it needed this adjustment. The left had it's adjustment as well, moving away from being the working-class white party into essentially an Identitarian group composed of non-whites, immigrants, gay, etc. and white women (not sure if they will be a Democrat block as the non-white percentage increases).

I think also that the civil Rights movement had eventually morphed into something where whites had a sort of post-Jim Crow guilt issue in the USA to where they were having trouble articulating their discontent at being reduced in relevance in their historic nation.

I think the Alt-Right anti-SJW movement had good elements. Some repressed, damaged nuts like Roof have given it a bad name. But I think the core is more about preserving, demographically, the USA as a historically European nation in the face of ENORMOUS demographic churn that has been foisted on America since the Immigration Act of 1965. White Americans almost universally oppose any institutional remnants of white supremacy, and are tired of being called bigots for simply not wanting the demographic mix of America to resemble Brazil. Not that I'm saying that's a bad thing, but Brazil is a different country with a different history and has had centuries for the subsets to reach a somewhat harmonious equilibrium.

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Postby Xmara » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:00 am

I’m tired of having to hear about both SJWs and anti-SJWs.

A lot of “have SJWs gone too far???” articles are full of fear-mongering and gross generalizations of anyone left of Reagan. When I was on Facebook, I saw stuff like “the public schools want to turn your kids gay” and “the left thinks the Declaration of Independence is racist” and “Obama wants everyone to convert to Islam and implement Sharia law” (I quit Facebook in 2014). Just ridiculous fear-mongering posts.

And the thing is, a lot of the articles about people getting offended over stupid stuff come from some irrelevant teenager on Tumblr with like 2 followers.

That being said, I also don’t like SJWs who get offended at the smallest stuff. I don’t mean actual injustice or discrimination or stereotypes, but stuff like “the American flag is racist because the white stripes represent white supremacy!” And then again, after my experiences on Facebook, I can’t help but wonder if those people are just trolling.
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