Commenting on the inherent nature of mob mentality and how we are all susceptible to it doesn't make for a complaint.
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by The Emerald Legion » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:07 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:12 pm
Liriena wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:Eh, a really small minority of moors really. Like very small. I wouldn't be suprised if you'd see one in that time period considering the sheer minority of them
True, but it goes to show that the complaints had a point. In gamer culture in particular, and among many developers, there seems to be this weird thing where they uncritically confuse/conflate the demographics in modern cultural representations of history with history itself. That since movies and TV shows and the like have overwhelmingly depicted the West's pre-modern past as almost exclusively white, then that's what that past was actually like, and any deviation from that exclusive representation is an affront on history.
by Hurricania Imperium » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:14 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:14 pm
Communal concils wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:Didn't say you were one. All I said is it sounded lime something thatd come out of a nazi or marxist mouth.
I find it lazy to treat communist and Fascist as the same. they have different goals and desires. I also don't like that people forget that sub-branches exist. Italian fascism is different from Nazism(still fascism). People also forget that a Marxist-Leninist differences with communist that complain "Not real socialism".
by Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:20 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:24 pm
by Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:29 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I find it lazy to treat communist and Fascist as the same. they have different goals and desires. I also don't like that people forget that sub-branches exist. Italian fascism is different from Nazism(still fascism). People also forget that a Marxist-Leninist differences with communist that complain "Not real socialism".
Yeah, I am quite familiar that italian fascism tends to be heavy authoritarian capitalist, but Germany was pretty authoritarian socialist at the time. The number one thing that trends among all of them is totalitarianism and a sort of propaganda either nationalism or revolutionary worker's propaganda.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:32 pm
Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.
"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.
Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.
by Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:33 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism. Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.
by Thanatttynia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:37 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.
"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.
Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.
What's fishhook theory?
by Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:40 pm
Communal concils wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:Yeah, I am quite familiar that italian fascism tends to be heavy authoritarian capitalist, but Germany was pretty authoritarian socialist at the time. The number one thing that trends among all of them is totalitarianism and a sort of propaganda either nationalism or revolutionary worker's propaganda.
Actually it's more accurate to reverse that. Italian Fascist were the closest fascism has to socialism. However, Benito decided to purge his revolutionary supporters and abandon socialism. Nazism is a completely different breed, it takes ideals from across the spectrum. They pick National Socialism is only Socialist in name, and it's more corporatist in economic thought ( it wants the rich and the poor to work together, worker and capitalist mutually do things for each other). Nazis was more likely to use socialist rhetoric than Italian Socialism, and they did attract Pro-soviet individuals, how every they were purge.
Authoritarianism and Nationalism are not enough to describe fascism, it has many more tenants. These tenants go against what Marxist-Leninist states did and wanted.
Communal concils wrote:Holy Tedalonia wrote:In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism. Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.
So how will this affect those that believe in the "great replacement" conspiracy theory.
by Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:48 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Communal concils wrote:
Actually it's more accurate to reverse that. Italian Fascist were the closest fascism has to socialism. However, Benito decided to purge his revolutionary supporters and abandon socialism. Nazism is a completely different breed, it takes ideals from across the spectrum. They pick National Socialism is only Socialist in name, and it's more corporatist in economic thought ( it wants the rich and the poor to work together, worker and capitalist mutually do things for each other). Nazis was more likely to use socialist rhetoric than Italian Socialism, and they did attract Pro-soviet individuals, how every they were purge.
Authoritarianism and Nationalism are not enough to describe fascism, it has many more tenants. These tenants go against what Marxist-Leninist states did and wanted.
Fascism's ultimate goal was to promote the state which is why nationalism and authoritarianism is such a major part of fascism. The other tenants are hard to describe because they weren't as much of a key factor to the main idealogy drive, which was promotion of the stateCommunal concils wrote:
So how will this affect those that believe in the "great replacement" conspiracy theory.
Probably intensify the belief really.
by Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:52 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:...moorish whores...
Communal concils wrote:Ifreann wrote:What an utterly shite defence of your horrible, evil idea. Hang your head in shame.
I'm not "Evil". I simply want their to be equality and freedom for individuals in a society. I believe in the rule of law, three branches of government and positive rights. My beliefs are not that bad, because they are base on true social justice. I believe that people across the world, and of various backgrounds should enjoy a similar life.I won't put myself in shame, because This Liberal society allows me to have free speech. If you are libertarian of any kind, then their is no reason for me to conform to the masses.
Holy Tedalonia wrote:In concern of homogenization of humanity. I would imagine thats happening already thanks to globalism.
Furthermore mixed race group will be the biggest race geoup in the usa in 2050.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.
"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.
Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.
What's fishhook theory?
by Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:13 pm
Ifreann wrote:Communal concils wrote:
I'm not "Evil". I simply want their to be equality and freedom for individuals in a society. I believe in the rule of law, three branches of government and positive rights. My beliefs are not that bad, because they are base on true social justice. I believe that people across the world, and of various backgrounds should enjoy a similar life.I won't put myself in shame, because This Liberal society allows me to have free speech. If you are libertarian of any kind, then their is no reason for me to conform to the masses.
You are not advocating freedom, you are advocating forced homogeneity. You are advocating eugenics. There is no way to achieve what you want without committing genocide.
by Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:17 pm
As for Eugenics, It wouldn't call myself one. I do believe in trying to remove genes that hinder a development of a embryo, and I am Pro-natal. This does not mean that I advocate for exactly assigned marriage. I don't really seek to breed people like dogs, I want to just improve the human condition.
2. well, wouldn't need to do it at such a large scale. Maybe the world would do it for people that agree with me.
by Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:38 pm
Ifreann wrote:Communal concils wrote:
1.That's simply not true. I don't advocate for the complete extermination of ethnic groups.
You want there to only be one ethnic group. You cannot possibly achieve that without genocide.As for Eugenics, It wouldn't call myself one. I do believe in trying to remove genes that hinder a development of a embryo, and I am Pro-natal. This does not mean that I advocate for exactly assigned marriage. I don't really seek to breed people like dogs, I want to just improve the human condition.
So you are advocating eugenics.2. well, wouldn't need to do it at such a large scale. Maybe the world would do it for people that agree with me.
No one agrees with you! What you are proposing is insane.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:43 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:47 pm
Communal concils wrote:Ifreann wrote:You want there to only be one ethnic group. You cannot possibly achieve that without genocide.
So you are advocating eugenics.
No one agrees with you! What you are proposing is insane.
1.I am not proposing that, instead it's more like a cultural revolution. I seek to destroy the boundaries of old society. So the only logical way to unite people for a long time is to unite them in some way, this includes merging groups.
2. No. I don't want people to be breeded like dogs.
3. There are many people that are critical of race, and there are many that seeked to abolish race. At one time Paraguay did follow a policy of removing racial differences.
by Kowani » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:49 pm
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:More like I’m tired of hearing from Anti-SJWs, picking the absolute lowest of the low hanging fruit to manufacture outrage from to rile up their fan bases in order to stay relevant.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:51 pm
Liriena wrote:Came for the ALL CAPS title, stayed for the hot take within.
"Anti-SJWs" are pretty much the best contemporary illustration of the fish hook theory, sprinkled with some Dunning Kruger. Nominally centrist or left-leaning people who pay lip service to liberal values, but the substance of their content inevitably favors reactionary ideas and analysis.
Being an "anti-SJW" is a pretty good grift, though.
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