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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:30 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Benuty wrote:Is anyone tired of an op using all caps to promote clickbait?



no.

When you have to put a title statement in all caps then maybe it seems to me that there is nothing of real value to debate.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:31 pm

At this point, I hate both SJWs and "Anti SJWs". In my eyes, they both overeact to the most stupid things, let alone overeacting to the other sides overeaction.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:32 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:At this point, I hate both SJWs and "Anti SJWs". In my eyes, they both overeact to the most stupid things, let alone overeacting to the other sides overeaction.

Both groups are merely agents of accelerationism, and okay in my book. The sooner this wild ride hits the reset button the better for humanity in general.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:39 pm

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Maydona wrote:"Anti-sjws", at least in my experience, are usually nothing more than broken records repeating everything they hear from their favourite youtubers and are pretty obnoxious to deal with, what makes it worse is they have little to zero original opinions of their own so it's always the same ol' tired arguments they bring up.



They are NPCs.


So are most people. Mob mentality is a hell of a drug.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:41 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

They are NPCs.


So are most people. Mob mentality is a hell of a drug.

I mean to be fair at least most people try to actually help the players on their quests.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:45 pm

Are people still using "SJW" in 2019? I thought the right had newer and bolder stale memes to throw at us?

At any rate, I just see it as a reactionary snarl term, which implicitly tries to shame people from giving a damn about their fellow person, as if being into social justice is a bad thing. Yeah, how dare I want the liberation of society's marginalized groups!

I'd invite anyone who buys into the so called SJW as an ideological boogeyman, and say, where are your getting your image from? Go out and talk to real people, and lot of them do pretend to care about civility. You'll find the strawman is just stuffed together to keep you mad and outraged. You're being played, it's not too late to escape and get out of the pipeline.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:48 pm

Auzkhia wrote:Are people still using "SJW" in 2019? I thought the right had newer and bolder stale memes to throw at us?

At any rate, I just see it as a reactionary snarl term, which implicitly tries to shame people from giving a damn about their fellow person, as if being into social justice is a bad thing. Yeah, how dare I want the liberation of society's marginalized groups!

I'd invite anyone who buys into the so called SJW as an ideological boogeyman, and say, where are your getting your image from? Go out and talk to real people, and lot of them do pretend to care about civility. You'll find the strawman is just stuffed together to keep you mad and outraged. You're being played, it's not too late to escape and get out of the pipeline.

I for one enjoy the inevitable cultural conflict brought on by an invention that the designers of which hoped to serve as a mechanism to enlighten humanity.

Well if that isn't a case of civilizational despair then I don't know what is.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:52 pm

Auzkhia wrote:Are people still using "SJW" in 2019? I thought the right had newer and bolder stale memes to throw at us?

At any rate, I just see it as a reactionary snarl term, which implicitly tries to shame people from giving a damn about their fellow person, as if being into social justice is a bad thing. Yeah, how dare I want the liberation of society's marginalized groups!

I'd invite anyone who buys into the so called SJW as an ideological boogeyman, and say, where are your getting your image from? Go out and talk to real people, and lot of them do pretend to care about civility. You'll find the strawman is just stuffed together to keep you mad and outraged. You're being played, it's not too late to escape and get out of the pipeline.

The only recent time I have heard people use the term SJW was when they were angrily referring to people who have been complaining about certain games of late about race and etc. I.e. people who complain that Kingdom Come: Deliverence having only white people in midieval bohemia.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:54 pm

Benuty wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:At this point, I hate both SJWs and "Anti SJWs". In my eyes, they both overeact to the most stupid things, let alone overeacting to the other sides overeaction.

Both groups are merely agents of accelerationism, and okay in my book. The sooner this wild ride hits the reset button the better for humanity in general.

A clash between two minor groups would only deepen the grudges that lay deep in our society. I dont think it'd accelerate anything.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:54 pm

Auzkhia wrote:Are people still using "SJW" in 2019? I thought the right had newer and bolder stale memes to throw at us?

At any rate, I just see it as a reactionary snarl term, which implicitly tries to shame people from giving a damn about their fellow person, as if being into social justice is a bad thing. Yeah, how dare I want the liberation of society's marginalized groups!

I'd invite anyone who buys into the so called SJW as an ideological boogeyman, and say, where are your getting your image from? Go out and talk to real people, and lot of them do pretend to care about civility. You'll find the strawman is just stuffed together to keep you mad and outraged. You're being played, it's not too late to escape and get out of the pipeline.

Sorry commie, but not everyone who opposes you taking things too far is a "reactionary". It's rational to be repulsed by calls by some college students to regulate Halloween costumes and the like.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:55 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:Aren't you the same guy who said "Brocalists" were a good group?

Secondly, while I agree Anti-SJWs are bad, SJWs are also bad as both are psychopathic extremist groups willing to gut the other side over what equates to stupid internet arguments.



well you are right about the groups similarities. SJW isn't really a group to me, they we should call them Left-libertarians. That's all they really are. The anti-SJW is usually an alliance between several right-wing ideologies, with a few leftist joining( though they are questionable). they are all foolish, and their clashes are important. The SJW isn't at all that important, however the Anti-SJW is very large. Therefor it deserves a little bit more meaningful criticism, while the suppose SJW can be mocked.


Yes I did said Brocialist were good, that's because they are very unorthodox, and they are excluded by other western leftist because of it. Brocialism is just a weaponize word to shut up people, just like SJW is used as a weaponize word to shut up people.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:00 pm

Benuty wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

no.

When you have to put a title statement in all caps then maybe it seems to me that there is nothing of real value to debate.


There is value to talk about something. Just putting the word SJW is enough to get people to click on articles videos or forum threads like this, but it's a person's choice to even click on it. The Title is related to the actual debate, so there isn't a real problem with the discussion.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:02 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Benuty wrote:When you have to put a title statement in all caps then maybe it seems to me that there is nothing of real value to debate.


There is value to talk about something. Just putting the word SJW is enough to get people to click on articles videos or forum threads like this, but it's a person's choice to even click on it. The Title is related to the actual debate, so there isn't a real problem with the discussion.

I think hes saying doing all caps devalues the thread, a opinion that I would agree with.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:06 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
There is value to talk about something. Just putting the word SJW is enough to get people to click on articles videos or forum threads like this, but it's a person's choice to even click on it. The Title is related to the actual debate, so there isn't a real problem with the discussion.

I think hes saying doing all caps devalues the thread, a opinion that I would agree with.


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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:06 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Aren't you the same guy who said "Brocalists" were a good group?

Secondly, while I agree Anti-SJWs are bad, SJWs are also bad as both are psychopathic extremist groups willing to gut the other side over what equates to stupid internet arguments.



well you are right about the groups similarities. SJW isn't really a group to me, they we should call them Left-libertarians. That's all they really are. The anti-SJW is usually an alliance between several right-wing ideologies, with a few leftist joining( though they are questionable). they are all foolish, and their clashes are important. The SJW isn't at all that important, however the Anti-SJW is very large. Therefor it deserves a little bit more meaningful criticism, while the suppose SJW can be mocked.


Yes I did said Brocialist were good, that's because they are very unorthodox, and they are excluded by other western leftist because of it. Brocialism is just a weaponize word to shut up people, just like SJW is used as a weaponize word to shut up people.

I'm pretty sure "brocialist" came about to address misogyny that leftist men let go unchecked.

It reminds me a bit of the origins of black feminism since women were doing work and never recognized or their specific concerns never got addressed in male led black spaces and civil rights movements.

The whole premise of black feminism is intersectionality, in which that when all black women are free, everyone will be too.

How so? It's not just about freedom from racism and sexism, but also homophobia and transphobia, ableism, and class, in the case of queer, trans, disabled, and/or poor black women. Nearly all black feminist theorists are socialist, mind you.

Socialism's strength lies in the solidarity of people, work together, helping each other, even on issues that do not directly effect them.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:10 pm

Auristania wrote:SJW are insignificant and have zero Political Power???

You never heard of the smokers' ban? Well done for people with zero Power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_ban

Smoking bans were coming into force before anyone ever used the term "social justice warrior". And they were enacted as matters of workers' rights.

European Court decrees punishment for blasphemy against Mohammed Peace be upon him, the most holy, the most righteous, the one True god. https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/woman-convicted-for-calling-muhammad-pedophile/ Well done for people with zero Power.

An Austrian woman was convicted under Austrian law and the ECJ held that Austria did not contravene EU law by doing so. The ECJ did not punish her for anything, they aren't that kind of court.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:29 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
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well you are right about the groups similarities. SJW isn't really a group to me, they we should call them Left-libertarians. That's all they really are. The anti-SJW is usually an alliance between several right-wing ideologies, with a few leftist joining( though they are questionable). they are all foolish, and their clashes are important. The SJW isn't at all that important, however the Anti-SJW is very large. Therefor it deserves a little bit more meaningful criticism, while the suppose SJW can be mocked.


Yes I did said Brocialist were good, that's because they are very unorthodox, and they are excluded by other western leftist because of it. Brocialism is just a weaponize word to shut up people, just like SJW is used as a weaponize word to shut up people.

I'm pretty sure "brocialist" came about to address misogyny that leftist men let go unchecked.

It reminds me a bit of the origins of black feminism since women were doing work and never recognized or their specific concerns never got addressed in male led black spaces and civil rights movements.

The whole premise of black feminism is intersectionality, in which that when all black women are free, everyone will be too.

How so? It's not just about freedom from racism and sexism, but also homophobia and transphobia, ableism, and class, in the case of queer, trans, disabled, and/or poor black women. Nearly all black feminist theorists are socialist, mind you.

Socialism's strength lies in the solidarity of people, work together, helping each other, even on issues that do not directly effect them.



To me, it is best if you abolish everything that divides people. If you some how abolish race, then that end racism. If you destroy gender roles and the diversity of sexism, then discrimination base on sex and sexuality is done. If we work hard enough, ableism can be removed by finding cure for conditions.

Socialism should not be about a collection of people that will eventually fight each other, but a unified collective base on equality. So a reject intersectionality, because it does not go to the roots of the problem.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:31 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:I'm pretty sure "brocialist" came about to address misogyny that leftist men let go unchecked.

It reminds me a bit of the origins of black feminism since women were doing work and never recognized or their specific concerns never got addressed in male led black spaces and civil rights movements.

The whole premise of black feminism is intersectionality, in which that when all black women are free, everyone will be too.

How so? It's not just about freedom from racism and sexism, but also homophobia and transphobia, ableism, and class, in the case of queer, trans, disabled, and/or poor black women. Nearly all black feminist theorists are socialist, mind you.

Socialism's strength lies in the solidarity of people, work together, helping each other, even on issues that do not directly effect them.



To me, it is best if you abolish the everything that divides people. If you some how abolish race, then that end racism. If you destroy gender roles and the diversity of sexism, then discrimination base on sex and sexuality is done. If we work hard enough, ableism can be removed by finding cure for conditions.

Socialism should not be about a collection of people that will eventually fight each other, but a unified collective base on equality. So a reject intersectionality, because it does not go to the roots of the problem.

Or maybe we could not homogenise humanity.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:37 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

To me, it is best if you abolish the everything that divides people. If you some how abolish race, then that end racism. If you destroy gender roles and the diversity of sexism, then discrimination base on sex and sexuality is done. If we work hard enough, ableism can be removed by finding cure for conditions.

Socialism should not be about a collection of people that will eventually fight each other, but a unified collective base on equality. So a reject intersectionality, because it does not go to the roots of the problem.

Or maybe we could not homogenise humanity.



If it does stop discrimination base on biological features, then it would be fine.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:44 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Or maybe we could not homogenise humanity.



If it does stop discrimination base on biological features, then it would be fine.

No, it really, really would not.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:49 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:I'm pretty sure "brocialist" came about to address misogyny that leftist men let go unchecked.

It reminds me a bit of the origins of black feminism since women were doing work and never recognized or their specific concerns never got addressed in male led black spaces and civil rights movements.

The whole premise of black feminism is intersectionality, in which that when all black women are free, everyone will be too.

How so? It's not just about freedom from racism and sexism, but also homophobia and transphobia, ableism, and class, in the case of queer, trans, disabled, and/or poor black women. Nearly all black feminist theorists are socialist, mind you.

Socialism's strength lies in the solidarity of people, work together, helping each other, even on issues that do not directly effect them.



To me, it is best if you abolish everything that divides people. If you some how abolish race, then that end racism. If you destroy gender roles and the diversity of sexism, then discrimination base on sex and sexuality is done. If we work hard enough, ableism can be removed by finding cure for conditions.

Socialism should not be about a collection of people that will eventually fight each other, but a unified collective base on equality. So a reject intersectionality, because it does not go to the roots of the problem.

Sounds like you still have a logic of domination.

Logic of domination is when you believe in the other and that the other will subjugate lest you fight back, it is a perfect match with capitalist competition, and it is thought process behind wealth inequality, white supremacy, patriarchy, heteronormativity, transphobia, ableism, etc.

Class reductionism is precisely why a movement like black feminism popped up, it was to address the fact not everyone has the same needs and experiences, similar in some cases, but the exactly the same. To call movements like that divisive is how you break solidarity. Race and queer baiting is a tactic that union busters did in order to try keep unionized workers weak, playing up prejudices. The revolution will be intersectional, it will be black, queer, transgender, female, poor, disabled, etc; my point is that it will include everyone and recognize people are complex and diverse, and that should be celebrated.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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If it does stop discrimination base on biological features, then it would be fine.

No, it really, really would not.


It would be a better solution to those that propose a diverse collection of people. History has show that Hyper-diversity can breed conflict. eventually people wouldn't see themselves having similarities, and tribalism would plague their minds. This leads to violence and oppression to people.This oppression can be applied to all groups.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:56 pm

At this point, I just want people to shut the hell up.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:01 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, it really, really would not.


It would be a better solution to those that propose a diverse collection of people. History has show that Hyper-diversity can breed conflict. eventually people wouldn't see themselves having similarities, and tribalism would plague their minds. This leads to violence and oppression to people.This oppression can be applied to all groups.

*cough* *cough*

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Postby Dresderstan » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:08 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:At this point, I just want people to shut the hell up.

Agreed, I could do without this hyperpartisan back and forth from NPC twats on both sides.

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