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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:36 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
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What if I think everyone is an SJW fascist?


Probably quite suited to conspiracy theory videos.


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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:38 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Anti-SJWs aren't all reactionaries or conservatives. There are plenty of social liberals like Bill Maher who get angry when other liberals take social justice activism too far.



The reason I call it conservative is because it's mostly conservative. Just like most Leftist societies have centralize leadership. People will used the "Exceptions" as a way of forcing their way to victory.

Honestly, An American Conservative is the Liberal of old. The "SJWs", are actually the rejected relative.
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Postby Aclion » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:41 am

Communal concils wrote:
The South Falls wrote:I haven't been hearing about them much, lately at least. But yes, if your only position is antagonizing someone else, you don't have a position.



They are a very Diverse group. They are a collection of the regular conservatives, reactionaries and classical liberals( but also Alt-right). They are only unified in their hatred for a insignificant group.

A very insignificant group that has taken several seats in the US Congress.

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Valrifell wrote:
What if I think everyone is an SJW fascist?

You say that but don't a large amount of those anti-SJW youtubers call SJWs fascist.

What difference is there beside the tribes they traditionally support? The both look like identitarian leftists to me. They even share in the same irrational jew hate conspiracy.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:49 am

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They are a very Diverse group. They are a collection of the regular conservatives, reactionaries and classical liberals( but also Alt-right). They are only unified in their hatred for a insignificant group.

A very insignificant group that has taken several seats in the US Congress.

Heloin wrote:You say that but don't a large amount of those anti-SJW youtubers call SJWs fascist.

What difference is there beside the tribes they traditionally support? The both look like identitarian leftists to me. They even share in the same irraction jew hate conspiracy.



1. I wouldn't care if social liberals get into congress. They will make policies, and the opposition would eventually remove it. It's that simple. If you like representative government( which I'm not sure you do), then you should accept their elections. I hate democracy, so I see such situations as a repetitive cycle.

2. There is a difference between anti-antisemitism and Zionism. Zionism has a bad dogma around it, so the U.S has to give so much of it's resources to the Jewish state. Israel shouldn't be protected form criticism , past tragedies doesn't exclude it from tragedies it cause.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:06 am

I'm seeing a lot of hate on anti-SJWs, and I watched a lot of a anti-SJW content back in 2016 and still do to some extent, so I kinda wanna defend them. But at the same time, it is true that many of them go after the left far more than the right, and many of them tend to be overly repeditive and uninspired. I can definitely see why they're disliked, especially since many of them appear to have gone of the rails since 2016.

I will however say this, more often than not, their hearts seem to be in the right place, they're more lucid in their commentary than mainstream politics, they're by no means reactionary or hateful, and they can generally be trusted to keep liberty as a main priority. In these aspects, they're kinda good.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:07 am

New Sukberia wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

The Left-Libertarians called "SjWs" are left-wing, they are a variant that you dislike. Call yourself ant-idepol( anti- identity politics) instead, there are many leftist that agree with you (including me). Also the suppose movement is dominated by people that will call you a SjW.


I know. Thats why i font put myself in the "anti-sjw" field.

Take Sargon of Akkad for instance. Used to ne leftwing, now he's a "classical libéral" That praises Steve bannon, nigel farage SIMPLY TO "OWN THE LIBS".

People like That only have the ideology to hate, they are trolls at best.

If i hate anti-sjws, it's because i am a leftist:

-i support gay rights
-i support democracy
-I hate reactionnaries, the unirocal ones
-i support women's rights.

Most anti-SJWs wholeheartedly agree with those 4 things.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:08 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:People who scream incoherently about how everyone they don't like is either an SJW or a fascist (choose your side of the spectrum) get promoted by algorithms because virulent content tends to get more clicks and commentary than more thoughtful stuff. In many ways the systems are a very pure democracy - we might be sick of it, but the number of popular and semi-popular "creators" who make money out of this shit would tend to suggest we're in the minority!

Hey, it's miles better than whatever the hell is going on in more mainstream political media.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:15 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I'm seeing a lot of hate on anti-SJWs, and I watched a lot of a anti-SJW content back in 2016 and still do to some extent, so I kinda wanna defend them. But at the same time, it is true that many of them go after the left far more than the right, and many of them tend to be overly repeditive and uninspired. I can definitely see why they're disliked, especially since many of them appear to have gone of the rails since 2016.

I will however say this, more often than not, their hearts seem to be in the right place, they're more lucid in their commentary than mainstream politics, they're by no means reactionary or hateful, and they can generally be trusted to keep liberty as a main priority. In these aspects, they're kinda good.




The "Anti-SJWs" isn't really against mainstream politics, I would even consider them apart of it. They have devolved into a echo-chamber of Pseudo-intellectuals and ideologues, and their big focus is on pop culture( which isn't important to the worlds problems). They don't really hold your libertarians values, they are more focus on fighting their sometimes real or imaginary enemies. They may not be reactionary, but they appeal and occasionally work with it.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:17 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:
I know. Thats why i font put myself in the "anti-sjw" field.

Take Sargon of Akkad for instance. Used to ne leftwing, now he's a "classical libéral" That praises Steve bannon, nigel farage SIMPLY TO "OWN THE LIBS".

People like That only have the ideology to hate, they are trolls at best.

If i hate anti-sjws, it's because i am a leftist:

-i support gay rights
-i support democracy
-I hate reactionnaries, the unirocal ones
-i support women's rights.

Most anti-SJWs wholeheartedly agree with those 4 things.




Which is why they have nothing meaningful or original to say.
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Postby Rezmaeristan » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:17 am

Definitely. You can be against "SJWs" (I am) but you should have some positions beyond that. Otherwise, you're just as much an NPC as those you claim to be NPC's.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:26 am

Rezmaeristan wrote:Definitely. You can be against "SJWs" (I am) but you should have some positions beyond that. Otherwise, you're just as much an NPC as those you claim to be NPC's.



I'm against such individuals, but I call myself anti-liberal rather than anti-sjw. The SJW isn't the best name for the Left-libertarian, just call them by their actual names. social liberals, Anarchist and Social Progressives.

Anti-SJW's are to divided to come to any beliefs outside the hatred of the social liberal, however they are mostly conservative. In fact, they are NPC for zealously accepting the status quo of today's liberal society( liberals as in classical liberal).
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am

Communal concils wrote:
Rezmaeristan wrote:Definitely. You can be against "SJWs" (I am) but you should have some positions beyond that. Otherwise, you're just as much an NPC as those you claim to be NPC's.



I'm against such individuals, but I call myself anti-liberal rather than anti-sjw. The SJW isn't the best name for the Left-libertarian, just call them by their actual names. social liberals, Anarchist and Social Progressives.

Anti-SJW's are to divided to come to any beliefs outside the hatred of the social liberal, however they are mostly conservative. In fact, they are NPC for zealously accepting the status quo of today's liberal society( liberals as in classical liberal).

If you're against classical liberalism, chances are, you'd get on well with your stereotypical "SJW."
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am

I'm tired of hearing from both sides.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:32 am

Communal concils wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:I'm seeing a lot of hate on anti-SJWs, and I watched a lot of a anti-SJW content back in 2016 and still do to some extent, so I kinda wanna defend them. But at the same time, it is true that many of them go after the left far more than the right, and many of them tend to be overly repeditive and uninspired. I can definitely see why they're disliked, especially since many of them appear to have gone of the rails since 2016.

I will however say this, more often than not, their hearts seem to be in the right place, they're more lucid in their commentary than mainstream politics, they're by no means reactionary or hateful, and they can generally be trusted to keep liberty as a main priority. In these aspects, they're kinda good.




The "Anti-SJWs" isn't really against mainstream politics, I would even consider them apart of it. They have devolved into a echo-chamber of Pseudo-intellectuals and ideologues, and their big focus is on pop culture( which isn't important to the worlds problems). They don't really hold your libertarians values, they are more focus on fighting their sometimes real or imaginary enemies. They may not be reactionary, but they appeal and occasionally work with it.

I think you're underestimating just how bad meanstream media is when it comes to politics. Some focus too much on pop-culture, but others keep it reasonably balanced. They may not share my values exactly, but close enough to it, the closest to it out of any major political faction currently. Some may be too friendly with reactionaries, but most of them are very distinct from reactionaries.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:33 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:People who scream incoherently about how everyone they don't like is either an SJW or a fascist (choose your side of the spectrum) get promoted by algorithms because virulent content tends to get more clicks and commentary than more thoughtful stuff. In many ways the systems are a very pure democracy - we might be sick of it, but the number of popular and semi-popular "creators" who make money out of this shit would tend to suggest we're in the minority!

Hey, it's miles better than whatever the hell is going on in more mainstream political media.


It's not for me. I like a meme here and there but it feels as though it's more infotainment than actual analysis and the constant edgy-memeing on both sides hollows out political discourse and reduces it to a bunch of people screaming at each other.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:36 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Hey, it's miles better than whatever the hell is going on in more mainstream political media.


It's not for me. I like a meme here and there but it feels as though it's more infotainment than actual analysis and the constant edgy-memeing on both sides hollows out political discourse and reduces it to a bunch of people screaming at each other.

I don't know what YouTubers or shows you're seeing, but most of what I see on the MSM is vapid, tribalistic screeching, and I have seen a fair amount of decent political analysis, news and arguments on YouTube.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:41 am

This is going to be lots of very angry shouty people on youtube, isn't it?

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:42 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I'm against such individuals, but I call myself anti-liberal rather than anti-sjw. The SJW isn't the best name for the Left-libertarian, just call them by their actual names. social liberals, Anarchist and Social Progressives.

Anti-SJW's are to divided to come to any beliefs outside the hatred of the social liberal, however they are mostly conservative. In fact, they are NPC for zealously accepting the status quo of today's liberal society( liberals as in classical liberal).

If you're against classical liberalism, chances are, you'd get on well with your stereotypical "SJW."



Why must I accept Classical Liberalism? I could stop thinking with reason can call my opposition something I don't like. I have not called you fascist, racist, Xenophobic, misogynistic or any other term to describe discrimination. I don't even believe in a safe space.

I also have great concern over economic and foreign policy, while these people are focus on minority rights.


Ant-sjws don't know know the term Social Justice even means, which is why they call people unrelated to those views "SJWs".
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Become woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Nazis in Space » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:43 am

I was tired, but then the all caps title woke me up.

I have to get up at five thirty in the morning.

Thanks, OP -_-
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:44 am

Caracasus wrote:This is going to be lots of very angry shouty people on youtube, isn't it?

By the way grandad, use shift if you want capital letters. Otherwise you'll forget to turn off capslock.


I haven't forgotten it.
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Become woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:47 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
It's not for me. I like a meme here and there but it feels as though it's more infotainment than actual analysis and the constant edgy-memeing on both sides hollows out political discourse and reduces it to a bunch of people screaming at each other.

I don't know what YouTubers or shows you're seeing, but most of what I see on the MSM is vapid, tribalistic screeching, and I have seen a fair amount of decent political analysis, news and arguments on YouTube.


Does that decent political analysis and argument come from people who openly market themselves as "anti-SJW", constantly put the word "SJW" in the title of their videos and regularly rant about something that someone barely relevant said as if it represents an entire side of the political spectrum? Or does it come from people who talk about a variety of stuff, and only raise concerns about the methodology of people who are pushing progressive identity politics narratives when it's relevant to an important current event and do so in a nuanced, thoughtful way?

I think there's two different types of people we're possibly conflating here.
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Postby Rezmaeristan » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:48 am

Communal concils wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:If you're against classical liberalism, chances are, you'd get on well with your stereotypical "SJW."



Why must I accept Classical Liberalism? I could stop thinking with reason can call my opposition something I don't like. I have not called you fascist, racist, Xenophobic, misogynistic or any other term to describe discrimination. I don't even believe in a safe space.

I also have great concern over economic and foreign policy, while these people are focus on minority rights.


Ant-sjws don't know know the term Social Justice even means, which is why they call people unrelated to those views "SJWs".


I guess it shows that SJW refers to an individual or movement with culturally progressive views, regardless of one's economic viewpoint. Nowadays that seems to include most neoliberal, social democratic, and democratic socialist groups. If you don't care about the direction the culture takes, you're not an SJW.
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Neutraligon
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Neutraligon » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:54 am

all to often, anti-sjws show similar issues to what they complain about with sjws. They complain about people being "snowflakes" and then end up being"snowflakes." They complain about censorship, but end up wanting to censor opinions that are not their own. That being said if you look at the very basics of their complaints, I think they have a point.
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Postby Pragerist America » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:54 am

The good thing about Anti-SJWs is that they have inspired the creation of this nation (Pragerist America), a parody of their opinions and beliefs all conglomerated into a nightmarish capitalist dystopian society.
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