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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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First American Empire
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Postby First American Empire » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:59 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Loben wrote:
>2 gods.

sounds like a cult to me.

Committing shirk isn't a definition of a cult.


Correct. For reference, the definition of a cult is: "A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader."

Nothing here about worshipping multiple Gods. This means that most polytheistic religions like mine (Hellenic Paganism) aren't cults since they don't have authoritarian, charismatic leaders, and aren't usually considered to be extremist.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:06 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:(Image)

Although, the Republicans can Bernie Sanders a communist anyway. He might as well have a cool beard like all the other ‘communists’ have had.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:08 pm

Loben wrote:
believing in 2 gods, basically pissing over the idea of the Abrahamic master god does sound like a pagan heresy to me.

^lol true
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:10 pm

To answer the poll's question:

ISIS. It very much operated a sort of tribal-distributist/primitivist economic model and managed to win wars against modern militaries.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:10 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Just coincidence, I guess.

Image


I cite religious reasons for all politicians to have beards.

MAKE IT THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY AGAIN
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First American Empire
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Postby First American Empire » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:14 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:To answer the poll's question:

ISIS. It very much operated a sort of tribal-distributist/primitivist economic model and managed to win wars against modern militaries.


It's a far-right theocracy that literally lost said war a couple days ago.
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Postby First American Empire » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:17 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:(Image)


I cite religious reasons for all politicians to have beards.

MAKE IT THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY AGAIN


Even Elizabeth Warren?
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:18 pm

First American Empire wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
I cite religious reasons for all politicians to have beards.

MAKE IT THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY AGAIN


Even Elizabeth Warren?


Yes
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:18 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Just coincidence, I guess.

Image

Now I want Bernie to grow a beard too.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:25 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Image

Now I want Bernie to grow a beard too.

Definitely wouldn't say no to this.

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Postby Torrocca » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:27 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Now I want Bernie to grow a beard too.

Definitely wouldn't say no to this.


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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:27 pm

If Bernie grows a beard, I’m going to back him even if Biden runs.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:31 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:If Bernie grows a beard, I’m going to back him even if Biden runs.

No offense, but what about Biden appeals to you?
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:42 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:No offense, but what about Biden appeals to you?

He’s more moderate and will likely attract less opposition. That would allow for good ideas to be passed with less resistance from conservative Democrats and other groups that can be reasoned with. Biden and Sanders are the strongest candidates, but the Republicans go insane over Bernie’s type. Biden would allow for a quieter presidency with less idiotic accusations and more work done in the government. Also, there are policies associated with that part of the Democratic Party I don’t agree with that also don’t represent all of the party. Biden has good experience and would be a great president.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby First American Empire » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:47 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:If Bernie grows a beard, I’m going to back him even if Biden runs.


If Bernie grows a beard, I'm still voting for Warren because I don't vote on candidates based off their looks. If I did pick candidates based off who looks the best, I'd probably pick Amy Klobuchar, but she's way too centrist for me.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:50 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:No offense, but what about Biden appeals to you?

He’s more moderate and will likely attract less opposition. That would allow for good ideas to be passed with less resistance from conservative Democrats and other groups that can be reasoned with. Biden and Sanders are the strongest candidates, but the Republicans go insane over Bernie’s type. Biden would allow for a quieter presidency with less idiotic accusations and more work done in the government. Also, there are policies associated with that part of the Democratic Party I don’t agree with that also don’t represent all of the party. Biden has good experience and would be a great president.

Bernie's not that radical either. To be honest, Bernie should drop the Socialist label and call himself a social democrat instead, as not only would it be more accurate, it would disarm much of the right's criticisms against him.
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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:54 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:He’s more moderate and will likely attract less opposition. That would allow for good ideas to be passed with less resistance from conservative Democrats and other groups that can be reasoned with. Biden and Sanders are the strongest candidates, but the Republicans go insane over Bernie’s type. Biden would allow for a quieter presidency with less idiotic accusations and more work done in the government. Also, there are policies associated with that part of the Democratic Party I don’t agree with that also don’t represent all of the party. Biden has good experience and would be a great president.

Bernie's not that radical either. To be honest, Bernie should drop the Socialist label and call himself a social democrat instead, as not only would it be more accurate, it would disarm much of the right's criticisms against him.

Too late for that now, it seems. He's been calling himself a socialist since he was a mayor. Probably even before that. And one of the things that make Bernie appealing is his consistency. His views since the 70s and 80s haven't flip-flopped, but evolved to being more progressive.

Or less progressive, I'm not entirely sure. But he's consistently been a progressive, as opposed to centrists/moderates trying to pass themselves off as progressives ala Kamala and Beto
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:08 pm

First American Empire wrote:If Bernie grows a beard, I'm still voting for Warren because I don't vote on candidates based off their looks. If I did pick candidates based off who looks the best, I'd probably pick Amy Klobuchar, but she's way too centrist for me.

The Democrats are centrist as a whole, so don’t expect anything but leaning to one wing or another.
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The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:09 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:He’s more moderate and will likely attract less opposition. That would allow for good ideas to be passed with less resistance from conservative Democrats and other groups that can be reasoned with. Biden and Sanders are the strongest candidates, but the Republicans go insane over Bernie’s type. Biden would allow for a quieter presidency with less idiotic accusations and more work done in the government. Also, there are policies associated with that part of the Democratic Party I don’t agree with that also don’t represent all of the party. Biden has good experience and would be a great president.

Bernie's not that radical either. To be honest, Bernie should drop the Socialist label and call himself a social democrat instead, as not only would it be more accurate, it would disarm much of the right's criticisms against him.

Much of the right doesn't know or care about the difference between a democratic socialist and a social democrat.

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:18 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Bernie's not that radical either. To be honest, Bernie should drop the Socialist label and call himself a social democrat instead, as not only would it be more accurate, it would disarm much of the right's criticisms against him.

Much of the right doesn't know or care about the difference between a democratic socialist and a social democrat.[/quote]
The Nordic model isn't even social democracy by its original definition.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:To answer the poll's question:

ISIS. It very much operated a sort of tribal-distributist/primitivist economic model and managed to win wars against modern militaries.

ISIS isn't left-wing.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:09 pm

So today in high school psychology class was passing out surveys. I got 3: bullying, suicide and the death penalty. It's something the popped up in my mind and I wanna discuss it with y'all.
Bullying:
1: Does/Has bullying happened a lot in your school/workplace? For me, I wouldn't think so. I'm not saying it doesn't happen at all, but in my school I don't think it's that big.
2: Have you bullied someone or were you bullied? Or both? Personally neither has happened to me, AlHamdulillah.
3: What do you think could be done to prevent it? Because I really don't know beyond what we have now.
Suicide:
What do you think can be done to prevent it? Because I really don't know beyond what we have now.
Death Penalty:
Are you for or against the death penalty and why? Personally, I support it because it's part of Shari'ah. And I agree with the "life for a life" philosophy as long as it's within the bounds of Shari'ah.
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Democracy and Freedom Index
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:12 pm

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Bernie's not that radical either. To be honest, Bernie should drop the Socialist label and call himself a social democrat instead, as not only would it be more accurate, it would disarm much of the right's criticisms against him.

Much of the right doesn't know or care about the difference between a democratic socialist and a social democrat.


Buttigieg was/is correct to frame the issue as democracy vs. capitalism as opposed to socialism vs. capitalism.

Realistically none of the current crop of Dems are even socialists and it's not like the average American cares about the nuance between a social democrat and a democratic socialist. None of them are trying to nationalize or create worker co-ops (which is lame as fuck) and are all working within the American capitalist framework.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:06 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:No offense, but what about Biden appeals to you?

He’s more moderate and will likely attract less opposition. That would allow for good ideas to be passed with less resistance from conservative Democrats and other groups that can be reasoned with. Biden and Sanders are the strongest candidates, but the Republicans go insane over Bernie’s type. Biden would allow for a quieter presidency with less idiotic accusations and more work done in the government. Also, there are policies associated with that part of the Democratic Party I don’t agree with that also don’t represent all of the party. Biden has good experience and would be a great president.

Biden only looks good on the surface. Policy-wise he has nothing to offer to the young voters that Bernie attracts, and on a personal level... he's likeable, sure, but there's no way he gets to survive the campaign without getting drowned in an avalanche of harsh scrutiny over several comments and instances of weird behavior.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:09 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Bernie's not that radical either. To be honest, Bernie should drop the Socialist label and call himself a social democrat instead, as not only would it be more accurate, it would disarm much of the right's criticisms against him.

Too late for that now, it seems. He's been calling himself a socialist since he was a mayor. Probably even before that. And one of the things that make Bernie appealing is his consistency. His views since the 70s and 80s haven't flip-flopped, but evolved to being more progressive.

Or less progressive, I'm not entirely sure. But he's consistently been a progressive, as opposed to centrists/moderates trying to pass themselves off as progressives ala Kamala and Beto

The thing with Bernie is that, on few occasions, he does support unequivocally socialist policies (IIRC, he's publicly supported workplace democracy). It's just that he mostly campaigns on social democrat policies.
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An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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