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Dumb Ideologies wrote:My impression was that this particular subreddit had been given considerable leniency compared to others for quite some time.

Being linked to a notable figure ain't an eternal free pass.

Not really. Pretty much every major political subreddit has problems with incitement and/or hate speech.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Give it some time and it will be irregardless of whether they break any rules or not. DebateFascism got quarantined and despite being very civil and having very strong moderation that clamped down hard on anything that broke the rules still got banned eventually. It's all about politics, not actual rules enforcement.

Interesting. I do wonder if reddit is going to join the Trump is evil train. I couldn imagine a lot of schadenfreude about the plebbitors fate though in other corners of the internets.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:My impression was that this particular subreddit had been given considerable leniency compared to others for quite some time.

Being linked to a notable figure ain't an eternal free pass.

Not really. Pretty much every major political subreddit has problems with incitement and/or hate speech.

To the same extent and regularity?

I doubt it, but if so close Reddit.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Not really. Pretty much every major political subreddit has problems with incitement and/or hate speech.

To the same extent and regularity?

I doubt it, but if so close Reddit.

r/The_Donald, bad as it is, isn't filled filled with that much incitement or hate speech iirc. You can find it if you're looking for it, but it's not every other post or comment. Much like most other political subs.

But what about my freedoms of peach?

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
To the same extent and regularity?

I doubt it, but if so close Reddit.

r/The_Donald, bad as it is, isn't filled filled with that much incitement or hate speech iirc. You can find it if you're looking for it, but it's not every other post or comment. Much like most other political subs.

But what about my freedoms of peach?

The frozen peaches have passed their use-by date and are in the trash.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:r/The_Donald, bad as it is, isn't filled filled with that much incitement or hate speech iirc. You can find it if you're looking for it, but it's not every other post or comment. Much like most other political subs.

But what about my freedoms of peach?

The frozen peaches have passed their use-by date and are in the trash.

You're not allowed to say that.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
To the same extent and regularity?

I doubt it, but if so close Reddit.

r/The_Donald, bad as it is, isn't filled filled with that much incitement or hate speech iirc. You can find it if you're looking for it, but it's not every other post or comment. Much like most other political subs.

But what about my freedoms of peach?

It really wasn't that hard to find their bullshit, regardless of whether you actually sought it or not.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The frozen peaches have passed their use-by date and are in the trash.

You're not allowed to say that.

And you stop eating out of the trashcan!

Dumb Ideologies wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:You're not allowed to say that.

And you stop eating out of the trashcan!

Okay Zizek.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It'd be great if they were consistent with it at least. Of course that would piss off all the lefties when their subs started getting banned or quarantined for the same things and will never happen.

They are fairly consistent. They quarantined r/full communism. There's just a reason that most subreddits banned are far right or revolve over an illegal activity.

Soviet Tankistan wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It'd be great if they were consistent with it at least. Of course that would piss off all the lefties when their subs started getting banned or quarantined for the same things and will never happen.

They are fairly consistent. They quarantined r/full communism. There's just a reason that most subreddits banned are far right or revolve over an illegal activity.

CTH, LSC, Anarchism and a bunch of others would be quarantined or banned too if the rules were applied even somewhat consistently. I know that's too much to hope for in the tech world, but it would still be nice to see.

Great Minarchistan wrote:I wonder if owning housing is personal rather than private property even though it does add value to its owner

Marx and Engels never addressed this subject. They were concerned about the oppression of workers in the factories.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Soviet Tankistan wrote:They are fairly consistent. They quarantined r/full communism. There's just a reason that most subreddits banned are far right or revolve over an illegal activity.

CTH, LSC, Anarchism and a bunch of others would be quarantined or banned too if the rules were applied even somewhat consistently. I know that's too much to hope for in the tech world, but it would still be nice to see.

Far more right wing subreddits would be banned if they were even more consistent. They advocate crime and murder very often. If the the three you mentioned deserve to be banned, so does nearly every politics discussion. The moderators may quarantine LSC just to make it seem more balanced, but the reactionaries of reddit break rules constantly. Detached liberal moderators who want some element of "fairness" and "freedom" to be faked and displayed only go after ones that gain enough controversy and then ones that look similar enough as their opposite so that it looks equal. Thtas really the only compromise tha happens. Either neo-Nazis let trolls break laws and kill people or neoliberals ruin things with indecisiveness.

Soviet Tankistan wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
CTH, LSC, Anarchism and a bunch of others would be quarantined or banned too if the rules were applied even somewhat consistently. I know that's too much to hope for in the tech world, but it would still be nice to see.

Far more right wing subreddits would be banned if they were even more consistent. They advocate crime and murder very often. If the the three you mentioned deserve to be banned, so does nearly every politics discussion. The moderators may quarantine LSC just to make it seem more balanced, but the reactionaries of reddit break rules constantly. Detached liberal moderators who want some element of "fairness" and "freedom" to be faked and displayed only go after ones that gain enough controversy and then ones that look similar enough as their opposite so that it looks equal. Thtas really the only compromise tha happens. Either neo-Nazis let trolls break laws and kill people or neoliberals ruin things with indecisiveness.

Do you think that Reddit is trying too hard to appear impartial?

Soviet Tankistan wrote:They advocate crime and murder very often.

Pretty much every actual lefite sub does too.

Tbh reddit and the rest of big tech should just be broken up or nationalized.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:It's not free speech. Reddit has a right to slow or stop their users and calling for death can be illegal in some cases.

It'd be great if they were consistent with it at least. Of course that would piss off all the lefties when their subs started getting banned or quarantined for the same things and will never happen.

Actually, to hear CTH users tell it, they look forward to being quarantined or banned.乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ

Liriena wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It'd be great if they were consistent with it at least. Of course that would piss off all the lefties when their subs started getting banned or quarantined for the same things and will never happen.

Actually, to hear CTH users tell it, they look forward to being quarantined or banned.乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ

From what I can tell, leftists tend to feel relieved when they get tossed out of social media. Kind of like being forced out of an abusive relationship or an unhealthy addiction.

I've also seldom seen a leftist who cried "censorship" when their subreddit got banned.

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:

Great Minarchistan wrote:I wonder if owning housing is personal rather than private property even though it does add value to its owner

Marx and Engels never addressed this subject. They were concerned about the oppression of workers in the factories.

So as per the marxist theory I can be a real estate tycoon and not exploit anyone even though I'm reaping surplus value?

Great Minarchistan wrote:

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Marx and Engels never addressed this subject. They were concerned about the oppression of workers in the factories.

So as per the marxist theory I can be a real estate tycoon and not exploit anyone even though I'm reaping surplus value?

Uhh well real estate tycoons often do employ workers.

Liriena wrote:

Liriena wrote:Actually, to hear CTH users tell it, they look forward to being quarantined or banned.乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ

From what I can tell, leftists tend to feel relieved when they get tossed out of social media. Kind of like being forced out of an abusive relationship or an unhealthy addiction.

I've also seldom seen a leftist who cried "censorship" when their subreddit got banned.

Whenever a leftist thing gets banned, all I hear is "how come those free speech warriors don't get mad at this? We get censored too, which is bad, so therefore who needs free speech?"

A lot of Reddit communities need squishing and I'm open to the idea that there are biases in who gets squished and who doesn't.

In the absence of an effective governance that could pull the plug on the whole site, I suggest a grassroots crowdfunded movement of collective and personal interventions to starve Reddit of users for its little echo chambers.

I like the slogan "friends don't let friends go to Reddit".

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Liriena wrote:From what I can tell, leftists tend to feel relieved when they get tossed out of social media. Kind of like being forced out of an abusive relationship or an unhealthy addiction.

I've also seldom seen a leftist who cried "censorship" when their subreddit got banned.

Whenever a leftist thing gets banned, all I hear is "how come those free speech warriors don't get mad at this? We get censored too, which is bad, so therefore who needs free speech?"

Asking why the Freeze Peach Warriors don't get mad about that is a very valid question, though.

Torrocca wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Whenever a leftist thing gets banned, all I hear is "how come those free speech warriors don't get mad at this? We get censored too, which is bad, so therefore who needs free speech?"

Asking why the Freeze Peach Warriors don't get mad about that is a very valid question, though.

It's fairly illogical to stick up for the people who quite often just turn around and attack you and try to get your communities banned.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Torrocca wrote:
Asking why the Freeze Peach Warriors don't get mad about that is a very valid question, though.

It's fairly illogical to stick up for the people who quite often just turn around and attack you and try to get your communities banned.

It's equally if not more illogical to proclaim freeze peach for all in one breath and then in the next not defend it when people you dislike get censored.

Liriena wrote:

Proctopeo wrote:If that's the reason T_D gets quarantined, I can only imagine that many more will follow.

Still, surprised it took this long to happen.

Edit: Apparently this happened because MMFA threw a shitfit lmao, of course it's fucking MMFA

Yeah, MMFA pointed out the obvious: T_D had a consistent problem with violence and genocide advocacy. And because big tech only reacts to dubiously legal content in their platforms when actual journalists make a stink about it...

But I forgot that you have an irrational hatred of the entire journalistic profession and you only care about right-wing extremism when it gets deplatformed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>claiming I hate journalism as a profession and not simply a large portion of modern journalists (and "journalists") due to the overabundance of yellow journalism coming from them
How hard did I strike a fucking nerve that you have to make up bullshit about me and my beliefs lmfao

Liriena wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It'd be great if they were consistent with it at least. Of course that would piss off all the lefties when their subs started getting banned or quarantined for the same things and will never happen.

Actually, to hear CTH users tell it, they look forward to being quarantined or banned.乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ

Well, at least the denizens of the dump expect and welcome the incinerator.