LWDT 7: The Earth and Heavens Tremble.

[North German Realm]

The Great Leap Forward in a nutshell:

https://youtu.be/kqCisi6HehM?t=213

Seriously, what went through the minds of the officials from the CCP when they decided to send peasants to large-scale steel factories?!

It was probably the state-level equivalent of "Oh fuck, this is gonna be so efficient"

[Painisia]

The Great Leap Forward in a nutshell:

https://youtu.be/kqCisi6HehM?t=213

Seriously, what went through the minds of the officials from the CCP when they decided to send peasants to large-scale steel factories?!

It was probably the state-level equivalent of "Oh fuck, this is gonna be so efficient"

Pol Pot did the same. Looks like many of those Communist officials were too much into theory and less into practicality.

[Nakena]

Do they? Do they really?

Yes they do.

Trump may have his flaws but he's the perfect bulldozer and wrecking ball.

[Grenartia]

Do they? Do they really?

Yes they do.

Because from where I sit, it looks like history is repeating itself.

Trump may have his flaws but he's the perfect bulldozer and wrecking ball.

What does that have to do with the conversation at hand?

[Pasong Tirad]

Today the liberal elites are functionally on the same side of the front as the left-wing and liberals. They stand with the established order as it is. At least in many places.

Liberal, sure. Left-wing? Nah. Definitely not.

It was probably the state-level equivalent of "Oh fuck, this is gonna be so efficient"

Pol Pot did the same. Looks like many of those Communist officials were too much into theory and less into practicality.

Good thing Vietnam smashed Pol Pot into the dirt.

[Nakena]

Because from where I sit, it looks like history is repeating itself.

How so? I am genuinely curious about your perspective.

What does that have to do with the conversation at hand?

Depends on your definition of fascism.

Liberal, sure. Left-wing? Nah. Definitely not.

Radical actual communists maybe not. But the mainstream at least in the west is all together there.

[Pasong Tirad]

Liberal, sure. Left-wing? Nah. Definitely not.

Radical actual communists maybe not. But the mainstream at least in the west is all together there.

You need to sauce that spaghetti.

[Nakena]

Radical actual communists maybe not. But the mainstream at least in the west is all together there.

You need to sauce that spaghetti.

Here in Europe most mainstream leftists and liberals are currently on the same side, sometimes its hard to tell the difference.

It's rare that theres an left-winger who calls out the current establishment or dares to go into opposition to it. The only credible opposition here comes from the right.

[Grenartia]

Because from where I sit, it looks like history is repeating itself.

How so? I am genuinely curious about your perspective.

Well, for starters, the constant demonization of the press since Trump started his campaign, his dehumanization of Latino people (not just "illegals") and the current situation with concentration camps for border crossers, every single "alternative fact" that has spewed forth from either his mouth, his twitter account, or those of his proxies, praise for dictators around the world, etc., etc.

What does that have to do with the conversation at hand?

Depends on your definition of fascism.

You're still not making sense.

[Nakena]

Well, for starters, the constant demonization of the press since Trump started his campaign, his dehumanization of Latino people (not just "illegals") and the current situation with concentration camps for border crossers, every single "alternative fact" that has spewed forth from either his mouth, his twitter account, or those of his proxies, praise for dictators around the world, etc., etc.

Thats exactly what I meant with the bulldozing the political landscape. Hes moving the overton window, destroying and paving the meta. More and more outlandish and absurd things become reality every days. Incidents that may have been the scandal or outrage of the year happen now on a weekly basis.

It got up to the point that we're politically living now in either Clown or Bizarro World.

The blueprint has been written and executed in Italy about twenty years ago with Berlusconi. But probably not even its late creators would have thought that I'd ever happened in the United States.

You're still not making sense.

See above.

[Dumb Ideologies]

History doesn't do return journeys, no matter how it appears to the observer close enough to see patterns but too far away to see the finer detail. The human mind is quick to jump to false inferences when it sees a train passing on tracks momentarily running parallel to old ones on its way to a different destination.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

History doesn't do return journeys, no matter how it appears to the observer close enough to see patterns but too far away to see the finer detail. The human mind is quick to jump to false inferences when it sees a train passing on tracks momentarily running parallel to old ones on its way to a different destination.

History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

[Dumb Ideologies]

History doesn't do return journeys, no matter how it appears to the observer close enough to see patterns but too far away to see the finer detail. The human mind is quick to jump to false inferences when it sees a train passing on tracks momentarily running parallel to old ones on its way to a different destination.

History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

It's more accurate so it's at least a better quality of platitude than the usual one.

[Bojikami]

History doesn't do return journeys, no matter how it appears to the observer close enough to see patterns but too far away to see the finer detail. The human mind is quick to jump to false inferences when it sees a train passing on tracks momentarily running parallel to old ones on its way to a different destination.

History quite often does repeat itself. "First as a tragedy, then as a farce."

Perhaps in the event of Fascism's return the end result would be different. In fact, as leftists, we should be putting in every effort to see that it will be different. But, this does not mean we should be lulled into inaction. When the time comes to act, we must do so without hesitation lest we be crushed under the terroristic dictatorship of finance capital that is fascism.

[Hanafuridake]

History doesn't do return journeys, no matter how it appears to the observer close enough to see patterns but too far away to see the finer detail. The human mind is quick to jump to false inferences when it sees a train passing on tracks momentarily running parallel to old ones on its way to a different destination.

History quite often does repeat itself. "First as a tragedy, then as a farce."

Perhaps in the event of Fascism's return the end result would be different. In fact, as leftists, we should be putting in every effort to see that it will be different. But, this does not mean we should be lulled into inaction. When the time comes to act, we must do so without hesitation lest we be crushed under the terroristic dictatorship of finance capital that is fascism.

If Fascism is a dictatorship of financial capital then why were so many Fascist movements and leaders hostile to bourgeoisie and capitalists?

[Cappuccina]

History doesn't do return journeys, no matter how it appears to the observer close enough to see patterns but too far away to see the finer detail. The human mind is quick to jump to false inferences when it sees a train passing on tracks momentarily running parallel to old ones on its way to a different destination.

History quite often does repeat itself. "First as a tragedy, then as a farce."

Perhaps in the event of Fascism's return the end result would be different. In fact, as leftists, we should be putting in every effort to see that it will be different. But, this does not mean we should be lulled into inaction. When the time comes to act, we must do so without hesitation lest we be crushed under the terroristic dictatorship of finance capital that is fascism.

The left's scaremongering using "Fascism" as an epithet, is identical to the right's usage of "Marxism", both blatantly engage in intellectual dishonesty or outright ignorance of their opposition's actual philosophy. Fascism nor Marxism are very relevant in modern discourse.

[Proctopeo]

In other news, ChapoTrapHouse is full of disgusting people. Proof? This one post in particular:
https://snew.notabug.io/r/ChapoTrapHous ... ld_poster/
While most of the comments advocating for violence have indeed been pruned, they did indeed happen. Many of them got a lot of upvotes, too, so it's not like they're minor voices of the community.

Bonus: OP didn't even censor the kid's face. I guess candid photos are acceptable if the target is wearing tacky clothes with a meme they don't like? Clearly they are, as it broke 1000 upvotes before getting deleted.


IK this isn't strictly related to leftism, but CTH is a pretty well-known tankie subreddit so I feel that them being trash people belongs here, as a word of warning

[Bojikami]

In other news, ChapoTrapHouse is full of disgusting people. Proof? This one post in particular:
https://snew.notabug.io/r/ChapoTrapHous ... ld_poster/
While most of the comments advocating for violence have indeed been pruned, they did indeed happen. Many of them got a lot of upvotes, too, so it's not like they're minor voices of the community.

Bonus: OP didn't even censor the kid's face. I guess candid photos are acceptable if the target is wearing tacky clothes with a meme they don't like? Clearly they are, as it broke 1000 upvotes before getting deleted.


IK this isn't strictly related to leftism, but CTH is a pretty well-known tankie subreddit so I feel that them being trash people belongs here, as a word of warning

First of all how dare you, second of all, lmfao. The vast majority of the CTH fanbase is anarchist/syndicalist/DSA

[Bojikami]

History quite often does repeat itself. "First as a tragedy, then as a farce."

Perhaps in the event of Fascism's return the end result would be different. In fact, as leftists, we should be putting in every effort to see that it will be different. But, this does not mean we should be lulled into inaction. When the time comes to act, we must do so without hesitation lest we be crushed under the terroristic dictatorship of finance capital that is fascism.

If Fascism is a dictatorship of financial capital then why were so many Fascist movements and leaders hostile to bourgeoisie and capitalists?

It's called grifting, bud.

[Thanatttynia]

In other news, ChapoTrapHouse is full of disgusting people. Proof? This one post in particular:
https://snew.notabug.io/r/ChapoTrapHous ... ld_poster/
While most of the comments advocating for violence have indeed been pruned, they did indeed happen. Many of them got a lot of upvotes, too, so it's not like they're minor voices of the community.

Bonus: OP didn't even censor the kid's face. I guess candid photos are acceptable if the target is wearing tacky clothes with a meme they don't like? Clearly they are, as it broke 1000 upvotes before getting deleted.


IK this isn't strictly related to leftism, but CTH is a pretty well-known tankie subreddit so I feel that them being trash people belongs here, as a word of warning

What are we supposed to be mad at here? I can't stand Chapo but I'm not seeing the problem with the comments

[Torrocca]

In other news, ChapoTrapHouse is full of disgusting people. Proof? This one post in particular:
https://snew.notabug.io/r/ChapoTrapHous ... ld_poster/
While most of the comments advocating for violence have indeed been pruned, they did indeed happen. Many of them got a lot of upvotes, too, so it's not like they're minor voices of the community.

Bonus: OP didn't even censor the kid's face. I guess candid photos are acceptable if the target is wearing tacky clothes with a meme they don't like? Clearly they are, as it broke 1000 upvotes before getting deleted.


IK this isn't strictly related to leftism, but CTH is a pretty well-known tankie subreddit so I feel that them being trash people belongs here, as a word of warning

What are we supposed to be mad at here? I can't stand Chapo but I'm not seeing the problem with the comments

Imagine getting mad in defense of baby-talking Neo-Nazis who use cartoon frogs on the internet to deceptively spread their Neo-Nazism because leftists mocked them online lmao. Proct's outrage is fucking hilarious.

[Thanatttynia]

What are we supposed to be mad at here? I can't stand Chapo but I'm not seeing the problem with the comments

Imagine getting mad in defense of baby-talking Neo-Nazis who use cartoon frogs on the internet to deceptively spread their Neo-Nazism because leftists mocked them online lmao. Proct's outrage is fucking hilarious.

Pepe teen DESTROYED by commie commenters lol

[Torrocca]

Imagine getting mad in defense of baby-talking Neo-Nazis who use cartoon frogs on the internet to deceptively spread their Neo-Nazism because leftists mocked them online lmao. Proct's outrage is fucking hilarious.

Pepe teen DESTROYED by commie commenters lol

Pepe or Groyper or whatever the fuck the r/frenworld frog's name was ANNIHILATED by THE PEOPLE'S MILKSHAKES in another BRUTAL COMMIE INTERNET ATTACK lmao

[Proctopeo]

What are we supposed to be mad at here? I can't stand Chapo but I'm not seeing the problem with the comments

Imagine getting mad in defense of baby-talking Neo-Nazis who use cartoon frogs on the internet to deceptively spread their Neo-Nazism because leftists mocked them online lmao. Proct's outrage is fucking hilarious.

TIL it's okay to advocate for bullying and physical assault of a minor as long as you use your far-right counterpart as a distraction from your own moral failings

also
>implying I'm mad
you be trippin'

[Torrocca]

Imagine getting mad in defense of baby-talking Neo-Nazis who use cartoon frogs on the internet to deceptively spread their Neo-Nazism because leftists mocked them online lmao. Proct's outrage is fucking hilarious.

TIL it's okay to advocate for bullying and physical assault of a minor as long as you use your far-right counterpart as a distraction from your own moral failings

also
>implying I'm mad
you be trippin'

Imagine using the actions/beliefs of a select few people to be representative of an entire group lmao, you're sounding awfully similar to white supremacists with that kind of rhetoric :^)))