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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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Torrocca
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:38 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And, besides that, I'm pretty sure most, if not all people with a non-cisgender identity don't turn into screeching madpeople just because somebody said a wrong pronoun by mistake. Which, of course, wasn't the case here, but I digress.

Not that doing so would be entirely unreasonable if Liri had indeed said that he uses they/them pronouns and I ignored that fact.


Of course. There's really nothing wrong with being upset if you get deliberately misgendered, tbqh, even though that wasn't the case here.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:49 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I despise /pol/ and am not defending them. I am defending the people with mental disorders that have to endure the usage of "retard," a legitimate psychiatric term, as an insult. As Liriena is a member of the Leftist Skeleton ArmyTM, he ought to know better than using a term for a social group to denigrate a separate class of people.

Lirinia is gonna be over you for not using they.

I don't use they pronouns so no, but thanks for your witty contribution. I'm proud of you.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:47 pm

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:#

Edit: Wow, that is a stupid trolling campaign.

I miss the days when trolls were actually creative and just in it for the lulz, rather than a bunch of stupid teenage neonazis desperately trying to invent dogwhistles with the subtlety of an airhorn

Maybe they should try to spread phrases that contain letters of racist slogans?

I'm no racist, but "Grass maintenance is something that may be found just excruciating, although somewhat satisfying." comes to my mind.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:14 pm

Not sure how many people here have seen this video, but I think this is honestly a really excellent, hopeful statement on how leftist politics are bound to (and, if recent trends are to be believed, already are) win(ning) out. :3
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:19 pm

Liriena wrote:

And this is why you probably shouldn't repeatedly plot to troll and gaslight the libs with fake nonsense in a public forum that everyone can read.

Finally someone called them on that shit.

After we unironically had to remove the ok hand symbol from every piece of documentation at work, I wanted to drink until unconsciousness was achieved.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:43 pm

Torrocca wrote:Not sure how many people here have seen this video, but I think this is honestly a really excellent, hopeful statement on how leftist politics are bound to (and, if recent trends are to be believed, already are) win(ning) out. :3

PhilosophyTube became my favourite Youtuber with his Bannon and Brexit videos... and I gotta tell you, that's some heavy competition he had.

But yeah, I really liked this one too. I'm not a huge fan of putting my faith in some sort of inevitable leftist victory, but he presented a very interesting (and inspiring) argument for it.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:54 pm

Liriena wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Lirinia is gonna be over you for not using they.

I don't use they pronouns so no, but thanks for your witty contribution. I'm proud of you.

<chuckles>
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
Liriena wrote:And this is why you probably shouldn't repeatedly plot to troll and gaslight the libs with fake nonsense in a public forum that everyone can read.

Finally someone called them on that shit.

After we unironically had to remove the ok hand symbol from every piece of documentation at work, I wanted to drink until unconsciousness was achieved.

A little girl I taught gave me the 'ok' sign when I was asking her if she was okay during class (she looked stressed). It's amazing to think some people might actually look at this innocent child and say she's a white nat.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:53 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Liriena has stated before that he uses he/him pronouns. Not everyone who's in favor of trans rights has to use they/them or neopronouns.


And, besides that, I'm pretty sure most, if not all people with a non-cisgender identity don't turn into screeching madpeople just because somebody said a wrong pronoun by mistake. Which, of course, wasn't the case here, but I digress.

You say this but then get uncomfortable by someone calling you "dude" even in a non-gendering manner. Like...come on.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:54 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And, besides that, I'm pretty sure most, if not all people with a non-cisgender identity don't turn into screeching madpeople just because somebody said a wrong pronoun by mistake. Which, of course, wasn't the case here, but I digress.

You say this but then get uncomfortable by someone calling you "dude" even in a non-gendering manner. Like...come on.


What the fuck are you talking about? Because, uh, no.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
I find it hilarious you are the self appointed “language officer” for a term that /pol/lacks probably view as a term of endearment.

Thanks for making the most compelling argument for calling them something else.

I mean, don't get mad at a mod for correcting you on it then.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:57 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Luminesa wrote:You say this but then get uncomfortable by someone calling you "dude" even in a non-gendering manner. Like...come on.


What the fuck are you talking about? Because, uh, no.

viewtopic.php?p=35802319#p35802319

This whole thing-a-ma-ding from 10 pages ago. You were uncomfortable with the idea even though I was joking with someone else.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:01 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? Because, uh, no.

viewtopic.php?p=35802319#p35802319

This whole thing-a-ma-ding from 10 pages ago. You were uncomfortable with the idea even though I was joking with someone else.


Yeah, because not everyone (not me, personally), appreciates that (and I brought that up only because there's trans women I know who dislike that), which I figured was made clear to you with my subsequent post:

Torrocca wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I unironically call even my sister "dude", lol. Just a habit, I sound like a 90's surfboarder when I talk. It's not to misgender, just I've called people "dude" and "bruh" for so long that it's my default for most people.


Meh, fair I guess, but still. Best not to do it if someone asks.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:03 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Luminesa wrote:viewtopic.php?p=35802319#p35802319

This whole thing-a-ma-ding from 10 pages ago. You were uncomfortable with the idea even though I was joking with someone else.


Yeah, because not everyone (not me, personally), appreciates that (and I brought that up only because there's trans women I know who dislike that), which I figured was made clear to you with my subsequent post:

Torrocca wrote:
Meh, fair I guess, but still. Best not to do it if someone asks.

Which I answered saying I’ve never met a person, trans or otherwise, who got offended by me saying “dude” as a general way of greeting people. Like, sure I’ll call you whatever, but “dude” and “bro” is just the way I talk. I call my sister “bro” even.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:06 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yeah, because not everyone (not me, personally), appreciates that (and I brought that up only because there's trans women I know who dislike that), which I figured was made clear to you with my subsequent post:


Which I answered saying I’ve never met a person, trans or otherwise, who got offended by me saying “dude” as a general way of greeting people.


That's the funny thing with personal experiences, ain't it?

Like, sure I’ll call you whatever, but “dude” and “bro” is just the way I talk. I call my sister “bro” even.


Okay? Good for you, I guess. I see no reason how this makes me "uncomfortable" with that when all I was doing was saying that some people dislike that, considering those two words are popularly seen as denotations for men.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:09 pm

Yes, attempts to discourage the generic terms "guys", "dudes", "bruh", or whatever is a bit cringe, but bringing it back up ten pages later to try to start a fight about it is on a bit of a different tier.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:11 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Yes, attempts to discourage the generic terms "guys", "dudes", "bruh", or whatever is a bit cringe, but bringing it back up ten pages later to try to start a fight about it is on a bit of a different tier.


Tbh, I'm perfectly fine being a bit "cringe" over referencing something relating to personal experiences of mine, but this shit Lumi's pulling is something ludicrous.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:11 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Yes, attempts to discourage the generic terms "guys", "dudes", "bruh", or whatever is a bit cringe, but bringing it back up ten pages later to try to start a fight about it is on a bit of a different tier.

To be honest, we need to encourage "dude" and maybe even "man" to be used in a more gender neutral way.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:11 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Liriena wrote:Thanks for making the most compelling argument for calling them something else.

I mean, don't get mad at a mod for correcting you on it then.


Serious question, why do you even post here, Lumi? All you seem to do on LWDT is antagonize left-wing posters like Torra, Liri, etc. what have they done to deserve you constantly badgering them and digging through their posts to find examples of “hypocrisy?”
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:16 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I mean, don't get mad at a mod for correcting you on it then.


Serious question, why do you even post here, Lumi? All you seem to do on LWDT is antagonize left-wing posters like Torra, Liri, etc. what have they done to deserve you constantly badgering them and digging through their posts to find examples of “hypocrisy?”

Why do you post in RWDT? I dunno, Gallo and DI and Nana and some others who are left-leaning also post here, I chat with them. You don’t run the thread and you seem to take every comment I make to other people personally.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:16 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Liriena wrote:Thanks for making the most compelling argument for calling them something else.

I mean, don't get mad at a mod for correcting you on it then.

...wat?
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Yes, attempts to discourage the generic terms "guys", "dudes", "bruh", or whatever is a bit cringe, but bringing it back up ten pages later to try to start a fight about it is on a bit of a different tier.

To be honest, we need to encourage "dude" and maybe even "man" to be used in a more gender neutral way.

This is all I’m essentially saying.
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faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Yes, attempts to discourage the generic terms "guys", "dudes", "bruh", or whatever is a bit cringe, but bringing it back up ten pages later to try to start a fight about it is on a bit of a different tier.

To be honest, we need to encourage "dude" and maybe even "man" to be used in a more gender neutral way.

Dude is pretty gender neutral already.

Man was historically.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm

Liriena wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I mean, don't get mad at a mod for correcting you on it then.

...wat?

Wrong person, my apologies.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:17 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Yes, attempts to discourage the generic terms "guys", "dudes", "bruh", or whatever is a bit cringe, but bringing it back up ten pages later to try to start a fight about it is on a bit of a different tier.

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