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Byzconia wrote:

Yusseria wrote:FREE SPEECH BAD

Rather hilarious coming from the guy who calls himself a National Syndicalist (the ideological predecessors of Fascism who explicitly called for a crackdown on all forms of individualism and freedom).

Eternal Lotharia wrote:The question is, can Centrists meme?

Greater Westralia wrote:

Byzconia wrote:At this point in time, the salute is almost exclusively associated with the Nazis. Nice try, though.

Because they're totally comparable.

I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?

You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".

Crysuko wrote:

Yusseria wrote:"The right can't meme" they say as they regurgitate memes created by rightists.

nobody said that

anywhere

ever.

New haven america wrote:

Eternal Lotharia wrote:The question is, can Centrists meme?

Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

New haven america wrote:

Eternal Lotharia wrote:The question is, can Centrists meme?

Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

Liriena wrote:

Crysuko wrote:nobody said that

anywhere

ever.

But also, the right seriously can't meme.

Byzconia wrote:

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm sorry I have the radical idea that free speech should apply to asswipes who make stupid jokes.

I'm sorry I have the radical idea that mass murder isn't fucking funny. Although I don't know what else I should expect from the guy who literally said, "Pinochet did nothing wrong!"

Yusseria wrote:

Byzconia wrote:Rather hilarious coming from the guy who calls himself a National Syndicalist (the ideological predecessors of Fascism who explicitly called for a crackdown on all forms of individualism and freedom).

I gotta say I've pretty much gotten numb to being called a fascist and a Nazi. Doesn't really even phase me anymore.

It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.

Bienenhalde wrote:

Crysuko wrote:I'm sorry that I have the radical idea that rightists should be silenced, joking or otherwise

If anything, it would probably be better to silence the far-left, Nazis included. :^) But in all seriousness, I do thing it would be a good idea to bring back laws against blasphemy and lèse majesté.

Liriena wrote:

New haven america wrote:Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

I'm gonna go with "nope". Not if, by centrists, we mean establishment Democrats trying to make Beto or Kamala look cool.

First American Empire wrote:

Arduo wrote:"Perfectly balanced, as all things should be." - Thanos da Supa-Centrist

Wise words from a wise man.

TBH, the best thing about Infinity War is that we now have someone to hyperbolically compare centrists to.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:

Byzconia wrote:I'm sorry I have the radical idea that mass murder isn't fucking funny. Although I don't know what else I should expect from the guy who literally said, "Pinochet did nothing wrong!"

Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

Byzconia wrote:

Yusseria wrote:I gotta say I've pretty much gotten numb to being called a fascist and a Nazi. Doesn't really even phase me anymore.

It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.

Right-wingers: "Facts don't care about your feelings!"

Also Right-wingers: "You know, I feel really insulted by you pointing out those facts about my self-professed ideology."

Literally zero of what you said is relevant. National Syndicalism is the ideological precursor of Fascism, the fact you don't like that doesn't make it not true.

Bienenhalde wrote:He broke the law and he got punished for what he did. Why is this such a big deal anyway?

Greater Westralia wrote:

Byzconia wrote:At this point in time, the salute is almost exclusively associated with the Nazis. Nice try, though.

Because they're totally comparable.

I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?

You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".

Crysuko wrote:

Greater Westralia wrote:I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?

You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".

oh, so we can have all the trappings of nazism but it's k because wE'rE bEiNg tOtAlLy iRoNiC

Yusseria wrote:

Liriena wrote:But also, the right seriously can't meme.

If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:

Byzconia wrote:I'm sorry I have the radical idea that mass murder isn't fucking funny. Although I don't know what else I should expect from the guy who literally said, "Pinochet did nothing wrong!"

Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

Liriena wrote:

Yusseria wrote:If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

Conserative Morality wrote:

Liriena wrote:
The only good first post ever.

Anyway, circling back to "brocialist", because I have nothing better to do right now and I feel like being a ponderous oaf, I almost felt like equating the term with "TERF" in terms of how accurate its definition as a "slur" is... but then it came to me that that's not fair.

I'd say "brocialist" is kinda stuck in the grey area between "overused slur sometimes hurled in one form of other at anyone to the left of Clinton in bad faith" and "useful shorthand for identifying an actual problem in many left-wing circles". I don't think it's unfair to say that some left-wing circles do suffer from having a very... umm... monolithic demographic and, thus, a very limited perspective on social and cultural that feeds on economic reductionism, which in turns justifies that limited perspective. No joke, I actually got a couple not-at-all-mad DMs from one on Reddit a couple days back, and in true brocialist fashion, they combined their whining about "idpol" with ableist slurs and tinges of homophobia.

I twitch whenever I hear 'brocialist' because it gives me flashbacks to the Dem primary in 2015/16.

We were literally supporting the more radical candidate in regards to undertaking action regarding race and gender.

[screaming externally]

Liriena wrote:

Yusseria wrote:If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

Byzconia wrote:

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

Why, hello, Mr. Strawman, fancy seeing you here! (Also, under no definition of the phrase does a liberal socialist qualify as "far-left.")

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I wouldn't consider teaching your dog how to nazi salute be anything horrible, but it's a little messed up tho. Also, the dude's intention was just to tease his girlfriend iirc, not cause a whole ruckus.