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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:20 am
by Cappuccina
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Crysuko wrote:centrists have conviction in their lack of convictions

No, they have convictions. It's that they don't view themselves as left or right.

It depends on how one uses the term "centrism", some people view it as synonymous with "moderate", some view it as having a synthesis of left and right philosophical views.

I'd personally consider myself as a centrist of the latter type.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:21 am
by Nakena
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I think it is funny when everyone here views me as right wing, while many people in the RWDT view me as a left winger.

Same here tbh. The number of times I’ve been accused of being Communist is hilarious, but I also know the commies don’t think very highly of my political views. :P


It might be because of your name. People may think Sartre, oh he must be a commie!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:23 am
by Jean-Paul Sartre
Nakena wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Same here tbh. The number of times I’ve been accused of being Communist is hilarious, but I also know the commies don’t think very highly of my political views. :P


It might be because of your name. People may think Sartre, oh he must be a commie!

Definitely. Still doesn’t excuse them, though. It’s not hard to understand that I am not actually a 20th century French playwright.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:23 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
North German Realm wrote:
Crysuko wrote:I don't think anyone who frequents this thread would unironically call themself as such

Many possess Authoritarian characteristics though. That said, I am appalled at LNA's statement, considering how many of the posters here crosspost from other threads.

How is that appalling?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:24 am
by Pacomia
LWDT 8: What does “leftist” even mean anymore?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:24 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I think it is funny when everyone here views me as right wing, while many people in the RWDT view me as a left winger.

Same here tbh. The number of times I’ve been accused of being Communist is hilarious, but I also know the commies don’t think very highly of my political views. :P

Indeed. They stand for forced equality.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:25 am
by Nakena
Cappuccina wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:No, they have convictions. It's that they don't view themselves as left or right.

It depends on how one uses the term "centrism", some people view it as synonymous with "moderate", some view it as having a synthesis of left and right philosophical views.

I'd personally consider myself as a centrist of the latter type.


What do you think about Corneliu Zelea Codreanu? He might be your kind of guy perhaps.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:25 am
by Kowani
Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:"Down with Dissent" would be a good title for the authoritarians that post here.

I don't think anyone who frequents this thread would unironically call themself as such

Heh.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:25 am
by Nakena
Kowani wrote:
Crysuko wrote:I don't think anyone who frequents this thread would unironically call themself as such

Heh.


Those are rather in the "Who was worse" thread.

Which should be really renamed into: Who can get the worst in apologism for Josef and Adolf?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:27 am
by Cappuccina
Nakena wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:It depends on how one uses the term "centrism", some people view it as synonymous with "moderate", some view it as having a synthesis of left and right philosophical views.

I'd personally consider myself as a centrist of the latter type.


What do you think about Corneliu Zelea Codreanu? He might be your kind of guy perhaps.

I'd view him as me on crack, similar views, bit too much of a zealot though....and well he's Orthodox and I'm Muslim.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:28 am
by Kowani
Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:Heh.


Those are rather in the "Who was worse" thread.

Which should be really renamed into: Who can get the worst in apologism for Josef and Adolf?

Don’t remind me of that particular clusterfuck.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:31 am
by Nakena
Cappuccina wrote:
Nakena wrote:
What do you think about Corneliu Zelea Codreanu? He might be your kind of guy perhaps.

I'd view him as me on crack, similar views, bit too much of a zealot though....and we'll he's Orthodox and I'm Muslim.


Some ideologies or idealists like Codreanu are, I think, demanding too much from people. The majority of people cannot in the long run live up to such high and demanding ideals. Be they be political, ideological or spiritual. Sometimes even the short one isnt working but for a few years at best.

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Those are rather in the "Who was worse" thread.

Which should be really renamed into: Who can get the worst in apologism for Josef and Adolf?

Don’t remind me of that particular clusterfuck.


Sometimes those can be fun though :^)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:32 am
by Jean-Paul Sartre
Nakena wrote:
Kowani wrote:Heh.


Those are rather in the "Who was worse" thread.

Which should be really renamed into: Who can get the worst in apologism for Josef and Adolf?

Hey now, the [holocaust/holodomor] never happened, but if it did, the [kulaks/jews] also had it too easy. [Stalin/Hitler] made many great improvements to his country and should be respected as a man of the [Aryan/Working] people.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:34 am
by Kowani
Nakena wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:I'd view him as me on crack, similar views, bit too much of a zealot though....and we'll he's Orthodox and I'm Muslim.


Some ideologies or idealists like Codreanu are, I think, demanding too much from people. The majority of people cannot in the long run live up to such high and demanding ideals. Be they be political, ideological or spiritual. Sometimes even the short one isnt working but for a few years at best.

Kowani wrote:Don’t remind me of that particular clusterfuck.


Sometimes those can be fun though :^)

That one wasn’t.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:34 am
by Cappuccina
Nakena wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:I'd view him as me on crack, similar views, bit too much of a zealot though....and we'll he's Orthodox and I'm Muslim.


Some ideologies or idealists like Codreanu are, I think, demanding too much from people. The majority of people can in the long run live up to such high and demanding ideals. Be they be political, ideological or spiritual. Sometimes even the short one isnt working but for a few years at best.

Kowani wrote:Don’t remind me of that particular clusterfuck.


Sometimes those can be fun though :^)

I find Codreanu's ideas to be noble in intent, but I don't find fanaticism and zealotry to be useful in one's spiritual growth.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:36 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:37 pm
by Greater Loegria
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If I got DEAT tomorrow, who here would celebrate?

Nice fishing line you’ve cast there old bean.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:39 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
Greater Loegria wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If I got DEAT tomorrow, who here would celebrate?

Nice fishing line you’ve cast there old bean.

I'm just trying to stimulate any type of discussion here. This thread is only four pages way from being locked and replaced. I'm not looking to cry to the mods or anything like that.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:06 pm
by Crysuko
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:Nice fishing line you’ve cast there old bean.

I'm just trying to stimulate any type of discussion here. This thread is only four pages way from being locked and replaced. I'm not looking to cry to the mods or anything like that.

It did come across as kind of self absorbed. This is a leftist politics thread, not a blog.

Speaking of which. Do tankies generally have too many stars in their eyes over the USSR, being too willing to ignore its faults?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:14 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm just trying to stimulate any type of discussion here. This thread is only four pages way from being locked and replaced. I'm not looking to cry to the mods or anything like that.

It did come across as kind of self absorbed. This is a leftist politics thread, not a blog.

If I thought it was my blog I would have posted my personal dramas, etc.
Speaking of which. Do tankies generally have too many stars in their eyes over the USSR, being too willing to ignore its faults?

Of course. They often deny that the U.S.S.R was undemocratic, and they deny every single atrocity committed under Stalin and other dictators or try to find excuses to justify it. I'm sure they don't make the left-wing community look good.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:53 pm
by Nova Cyberia
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If I got DEAT tomorrow, who here would celebrate?

You honestly expect people to respond to this? Anyone who says they would would be at risk of a mod slap.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:05 pm
by Crysuko
Nova Cyberia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If I got DEAT tomorrow, who here would celebrate?

You honestly expect people to respond to this? Anyone who says they would would be at risk of a mod slap.

it's more likely i'd get whacked for blowing up at you or someone else

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:26 pm
by Hanafuridake
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If I got DEAT tomorrow, who here would celebrate?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:33 pm
by The Xenopolis Confederation
Hanafuridake wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If I got DEAT tomorrow, who here would celebrate?


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Hana, that's extremely rude.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:34 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
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Hana, that's extremely rude.

On NSG, that is mild.