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LWDT 7: The Earth and Heavens Tremble.

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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:33 am

Crysuko wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Kristallnacht was an organized pogrom by Goebbels and Hitler and mostly conducted by the SA.

Its description as "public and spontanous outburst of popular anger" is literal NSDAP propaganda.

My point being to stop these people getting into power, so we don't get another one pogrom such as this

To do that, follow Sweden's example, and start imposing moderate immigration restrictions. This won't appease the hardcore fascist activists, but it would appease the people, and result in Nazis not having any grievance to campaign on, and losing.
Nova Cyberia wrote:Thank you. I appreciate your respect for my low opinion of you.
Call me Liber or LNA for short so there is no confusion between me and others with similar names.
Not to be confused with Novus America. We are different people with very different political opinions.
Solidarity with the Hong Kong People! Down with the CCP!

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Crysuko
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:34 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Crysuko wrote:My point being to stop these people getting into power, so we don't get another one pogrom such as this

To do that, follow Sweden's example, and start imposing moderate immigration restrictions. This won't appease the hardcore fascist activists, but it would appease the people, and result in Nazis not having any grievance to campaign on, and losing.

As a strategic move to prevent the far right gaining traction, I can agree to that.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Posts: 7954
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:35 am

Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Please note that "rightist" is a vague term. We're not all Nazis or do we all come even close to Nazi doctrine.

When the Nazis rise, you all fall in line.

That's untrue.
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:36 am

Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:To do that, follow Sweden's example, and start imposing moderate immigration restrictions. This won't appease the hardcore fascist activists, but it would appease the people, and result in Nazis not having any grievance to campaign on, and losing.

As a strategic move to prevent the far right gaining traction, I can agree to that.

A strategic move and something to fix the problem with immigrants not assimilating.
Nova Cyberia wrote:Thank you. I appreciate your respect for my low opinion of you.
Call me Liber or LNA for short so there is no confusion between me and others with similar names.
Not to be confused with Novus America. We are different people with very different political opinions.
Solidarity with the Hong Kong People! Down with the CCP!

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Nakena
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Nakena » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:36 am

Crysuko wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Kristallnacht was an organized pogrom by Goebbels and Hitler and mostly conducted by the SA.

Its description as "public and spontanous outburst of popular anger" is literal NSDAP propaganda.

My point being to stop these people getting into power, so we don't get another one pogrom such as this


Next time it happens in the United States. For its very own special reasons which keep piling up increasingly.
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Kowani
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Posts: 18059
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:38 am

Nakena wrote:
Crysuko wrote:My point being to stop these people getting into power, so we don't get another one pogrom such as this


Next time it happens in the United States. For its very own special reasons which keep piling up increasingly.

Most of which include people blaming immigrants for all their problems.
Atheist and still proud of it. Spanish Expat.
Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Seangoli wrote:You are spouting nonsensical drivel with no coherent thought, little logic, and at the end of it all just angry opining at the clouds based on a truly astonishly low level of knowledge or understanding of the subject matter.

Turbofolkia wrote:And it’s not like the 1000 different offshoots of Protestantism that you have in America are any better. Even if they’re not abusing children, it’s just megachurches filled with people on mobility strollers donating their life savings to Pastor Hamburglar so that he can buy his sixth McMansion.

0% Capitalism

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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:40 am

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Next time it happens in the United States. For its very own special reasons which keep piling up increasingly.

Most of which include people blaming immigrants for all their problems.

There's plenty of right leaning militias and republicans who would be more than happy to organise and execute such an act
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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Torrocca
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26387
Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:50 am

Looks like we're almost ready for the 8th iteration. Don't think I'll OP that one, this time around (like I said a while back), so, uh... somebody feel free to take charge? Hold a quick vote for a new OP? I dunno.
Libertarian Democratic Socialist. RAINBOW! Revolutionary Catalonia and Revolutionary Rojava Forever! ^_^
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"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - Buenaventura Durruti
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:51 am

Torrocca wrote:Looks like we're almost ready for the 8th iteration. Don't think I'll OP that one, this time around (like I said a while back), so, uh... somebody feel free to take charge? Hold a quick vote for a new OP? I dunno.

Maybe I'll do it, depending on anyone else's input
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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North German Realm
Minister
 
Posts: 3118
Founded: Jan 27, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby North German Realm » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:53 am

Torrocca wrote:Looks like we're almost ready for the 8th iteration. Don't think I'll OP that one, this time around (like I said a while back), so, uh... somebody feel free to take charge? Hold a quick vote for a new OP? I dunno.

I'd say holding a poll over it is probably the smarter idea, but honestly I doubt we can reach an accord in the next, what, 4-5 pages?
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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:55 am

North German Realm wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Looks like we're almost ready for the 8th iteration. Don't think I'll OP that one, this time around (like I said a while back), so, uh... somebody feel free to take charge? Hold a quick vote for a new OP? I dunno.

I'd say holding a poll over it is probably the smarter idea, but honestly I doubt we can reach an accord in the next, what, 4-5 pages?

It'd just end up being an ego thing.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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Ostroeuropa
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52677
Founded: Jun 14, 2006
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:55 am

LWDT 8: Less crypto-fascists than you'd think, but more than you'd hope.
New Sig, who dis?
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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:57 am

North German Realm wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Looks like we're almost ready for the 8th iteration. Don't think I'll OP that one, this time around (like I said a while back), so, uh... somebody feel free to take charge? Hold a quick vote for a new OP? I dunno.

I'd say holding a poll over it is probably the smarter idea, but honestly I doubt we can reach an accord in the next, what, 4-5 pages?


Yeah, there's not enough pages left for a poll.
Libertarian Democratic Socialist. RAINBOW! Revolutionary Catalonia and Revolutionary Rojava Forever! ^_^
I am Her Majesty, Torra I, of the House Anarkittismo, NS's self-anointed Anarcho-Monarchist Queen. Now known as God-Empress Torra.
"Fascism is not debated, it is destroyed." - Buenaventura Durruti
"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
I go by Torra and feminine pronouns! They/Them/Their are perfectly acceptable alternatives as well :3
Suggestions welcome!

Capital - Karl Marx and Frederich Engels
Wage Labor and Capital - Karl Marx
The Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin
Statism and Anarchy - Mikhail Bakunin

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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:58 am

LWDT 8: CNT-FUN

Let's brainstorm some titles
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Founded: Mar 10, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:05 am

How about "silence the opposition." That would be a very accurate title for many elements of the left.
Nova Cyberia wrote:Thank you. I appreciate your respect for my low opinion of you.
Call me Liber or LNA for short so there is no confusion between me and others with similar names.
Not to be confused with Novus America. We are different people with very different political opinions.
Solidarity with the Hong Kong People! Down with the CCP!

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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:06 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:How about "silence the opposition." That would be a very accurate title for many elements of the left.

The right thinks left = liberal: episode 99999999999999999999999999
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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LiberNovusAmericae
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Founded: Mar 10, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:15 am

Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:How about "silence the opposition." That would be a very accurate title for many elements of the left.

The right thinks left = liberal: episode 99999999999999999999999999

I ain't mistaking the two here. The Soviets weren't liberal, and they silenced their opposition with Gulags. Not saying every leftist would do that, but I'm not talking about liberalism.
Nova Cyberia wrote:Thank you. I appreciate your respect for my low opinion of you.
Call me Liber or LNA for short so there is no confusion between me and others with similar names.
Not to be confused with Novus America. We are different people with very different political opinions.
Solidarity with the Hong Kong People! Down with the CCP!

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Proctopeo
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10289
Founded: Sep 26, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:22 am

LWDT 8: Left Outta Time
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Crysuko
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:25 am

if it's me that makes the next thread, I'll probably title it Karltural Marxism or something dumb like that
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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North German Realm
Minister
 
Posts: 3118
Founded: Jan 27, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby North German Realm » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:32 am

Crysuko wrote:if it's me that makes the next thread, I'll probably title it Karltural Marxism or something dumb like that

Kultur Marx*
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Norddeutsche Morgenpost: North German Embassy in Malaya captured by radicalized students, 17 embassy personnel taken hostage. Chancellor Lagenmauer claims that he "beseeched the British Government to, once and for all, clarify whether their fellow member of the Commonwealth acts in their common interest" || North German-Tientsin summit ends successfully, brings Tientsin into North German Sphere of Influence. China's protest against "European Imperialism in China" ignored by all parties. || The Situation in Yugoslavia worsens as Bulgaria, Hungary deploy more military units into the wartorn country. Political Analysts warn that "war in Yugoslavia may be imminent"

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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:37 am

LWDT 8: Dancing the Nazbol Gambol

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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:38 am

Shoulda turned Left at Albuquerque.
Atheist and still proud of it. Spanish Expat.
Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist. Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Seangoli wrote:You are spouting nonsensical drivel with no coherent thought, little logic, and at the end of it all just angry opining at the clouds based on a truly astonishly low level of knowledge or understanding of the subject matter.

Turbofolkia wrote:And it’s not like the 1000 different offshoots of Protestantism that you have in America are any better. Even if they’re not abusing children, it’s just megachurches filled with people on mobility strollers donating their life savings to Pastor Hamburglar so that he can buy his sixth McMansion.

0% Capitalism

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pacomia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:40 am

Centrist Discussion Thread?
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North German Realm
Minister
 
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby North German Realm » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:42 am

Pacomia wrote:Centrist Discussion Thread?

One keeps popping up every now and then. For some reason, it never tends to stick around for long.
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Norddeutschland

Homepage || Overview | Sovereign | Chancellor | Legislature || The World
7 December, 2019
Norddeutsche Morgenpost: North German Embassy in Malaya captured by radicalized students, 17 embassy personnel taken hostage. Chancellor Lagenmauer claims that he "beseeched the British Government to, once and for all, clarify whether their fellow member of the Commonwealth acts in their common interest" || North German-Tientsin summit ends successfully, brings Tientsin into North German Sphere of Influence. China's protest against "European Imperialism in China" ignored by all parties. || The Situation in Yugoslavia worsens as Bulgaria, Hungary deploy more military units into the wartorn country. Political Analysts warn that "war in Yugoslavia may be imminent"

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Crysuko
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5913
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:44 am

North German Realm wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Centrist Discussion Thread?

One keeps popping up every now and then. For some reason, it never tends to stick around for long.

centrists have conviction in their lack of convictions
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

Syndicalist, vehement anti-fascist.
I USE Qs INSTEAD OF Qs

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