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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:50 am
by Dumb Ideologies
Nakena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If he lacked a cooperative Senate, which he almost certainly would, then he really wouldn't be due to sheer gridlock and an inability to pass anything.

Though tbh I don't think that would entirely be a bad thing. Much as Trump's presidency helped kill the alt-right maybe an equally ineffective Sanders presidency could kneecap the left.


It might slow them down however I am pretty sure of the far-right we may only have experienced their primary form and first wave. With the seeds planted already and starting to bear their evil fruits.


Evil fruits? We'll have no alt-Pride here!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:57 am
by Nakena
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Nakena wrote:
It might slow them down however I am pretty sure of the far-right we may only have experienced their primary form and first wave. With the seeds planted already and starting to bear their evil fruits.


Evil fruits? We'll have no alt-Pride here!


Their tendrils are growing and spreading underground as we speak. The alt-right of 2015-17 may merely have been the first wave of future things, unseen yet to come. The entire rise of extremist terrorism is the proof thereof.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:18 am
by New yugoslavaia
Nakena wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Evil fruits? We'll have no alt-Pride here!


Their tendrils are growing and spreading underground as we speak. The alt-right of 2015-17 may merely have been the first wave of future things, unseen yet to come. The entire rise of extremist terrorism is the proof thereof.


"But muh ethknowsate!"

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:20 am
by Nakena
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Their tendrils are growing and spreading underground as we speak. The alt-right of 2015-17 may merely have been the first wave of future things, unseen yet to come. The entire rise of extremist terrorism is the proof thereof.


"But muh ethknowsate!"


Yes, yes I see you know it too.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:13 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Kowani wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:“Supports: Liberty, Capitalism, Libertarianism, Low Taxes, Free Speech, Civic Nationalism, Representative Republics, Secularism, Atheism, Gun Rights”

God, do I feel stupid right now... :oops:

Guys, what I wrote was a shitpost.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:16 am
by Washington Resistance Army
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Kowani wrote:God, do I feel stupid right now... :oops:

Guys, what I wrote was a shitpost.


It's not a shitpost if it's true though.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:18 am
by Ostroeuropa
The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:19 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Guys, what I wrote was a shitpost.


It's not a shitpost if it's true though.

What makes you think my post about banning tankies is something I truly believe in?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:21 am
by Nakena
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Guys, what I wrote was a shitpost.


It's not a shitpost if it's true though.


Sometimes its hard to tell those days. But lets be honest, that makes it all the merrier.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:23 am
by Washington Resistance Army
Ostroeuropa wrote:The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.


The alt-right in the US is pretty dead currently tbh. Trump letdown played more than a small part imo.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:23 am
by Kowani
Ostroeuropa wrote:The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.

Yeah, it was quite obvious that we were talking about the US.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:24 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Ostroeuropa wrote:The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.

I'm sure that is because of immigration.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:25 am
by Nakena
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.


The alt-right in the US is pretty dead currently tbh. Trump letdown played more than a small part imo.


And nothing of value got lost. I have most of them as pretty cringy in memory. Which being said whoever is left now or still around of it is probably a true believer.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:25 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.


The alt-right in the US is pretty dead currently tbh. Trump letdown played more than a small part imo.

Good riddance. They were a faction of right-wing politics where the term "deplorable" fit.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:27 am
by Crysuko
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The alt-right isn't shrinking as a result of the Trump presidency, why would you think that?

The growth of the far-right is still going on. In Germany they've overtaken Merkels party in a few areas. In general in fact they're a growing movement.

I'm sure that is because of immigration.

Normally I'd say there's more to it than that, but considering how simplistic their motivations are, you're probably right.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:28 am
by Nakena
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The alt-right in the US is pretty dead currently tbh. Trump letdown played more than a small part imo.

Good riddance. They were a faction of right-wing politics where the term "deplorable" fit.


Comitted ones? Yes absolutly.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:31 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm sure that is because of immigration.

Normally I'd say there's more to it than that, but considering how simplistic their motivations are, you're probably right.

There is a large section of the populace that is tired of immigration, and when mainstream parties smugly ignore the sentiment, the Nazis have plenty of potential recruits whom they can manipulate into joining into their movement.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:35 am
by Nakena
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Normally I'd say there's more to it than that, but considering how simplistic their motivations are, you're probably right.

There is a large section of the populace that is tired of immigration, and when mainstream parties smugly ignore the sentiment, the Nazis have plenty of potential recruits whom they can manipulate into joining into their movement.


Weren't it for the mainstream parties ignoring this matter, Identitarians and nazis would have no chance. Their actual ideology and antics are widely unpopular.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:35 am
by Crysuko
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Normally I'd say there's more to it than that, but considering how simplistic their motivations are, you're probably right.

There is a large section of the populace that is tired of immigration, and when mainstream parties smugly ignore the sentiment, the Nazis have plenty of potential recruits whom they can manipulate into joining into their movement.

A war will be fought over this at some point, I'd put money on it

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:37 am
by Kowani
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Normally I'd say there's more to it than that, but considering how simplistic their motivations are, you're probably right.

There is a large section of the populace that is tired of immigration, and when mainstream parties smugly ignore the sentiment, the Nazis have plenty of potential recruits whom they can manipulate into joining into their movement.

Literally 5% of the population…

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:43 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Nakena wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:There is a large section of the populace that is tired of immigration, and when mainstream parties smugly ignore the sentiment, the Nazis have plenty of potential recruits whom they can manipulate into joining into their movement.


Weren't it for the mainstream parties ignoring this matter, Identitarians and nazis would have no chance. Their actual ideology and antics are widely unpopular.

That comes as no surprise. I mean, I'm sure the overwhelming majority of the populace doesn't want to start Holocaust 2.0 or anything like that. Even with immigration issues, I doubt any Nazi parties will gain power. Golden Dawn is a Neo-Nazi group that was a rising star in Greek politics for example, but now the trend is reversing. The 2019 election just resulted in all of their seats being lost in the Greek legislature.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:45 am
by Crysuko
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Weren't it for the mainstream parties ignoring this matter, Identitarians and nazis would have no chance. Their actual ideology and antics are widely unpopular.

That comes as no surprise. I mean, I'm sure the overwhelming majority of the populace doesn't want to start Holocaust 2.0 or anything like that. Even with immigration issues, I doubt any Nazi parties will gain power. Golden Dawn is a Neo-Nazi group that was a rising star in Greek politics for example, but now the trend is reversing. The 2019 election just resulted in all of their seats being lost in the Greek legislature.

And yet the rightists crow about how popular they're getting. I wonder how much of it is just blind vanity, the desire to say that they're more popular. More influential.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:45 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Kowani wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:There is a large section of the populace that is tired of immigration, and when mainstream parties smugly ignore the sentiment, the Nazis have plenty of potential recruits whom they can manipulate into joining into their movement.

Literally 5% of the population…

I doubt the only people tired of immigration in Europe is 5% of the populace.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:47 am
by Kowani
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Kowani wrote:Literally 5% of the population…

I doubt the only people tired of immigration in Europe is 5% of the populace.

No. I mean immigrants constitute 5% of the German population (according to Wikipedia), and yet everyone’s shitting their pants.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:48 am
by LiberNovusAmericae
Crysuko wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:That comes as no surprise. I mean, I'm sure the overwhelming majority of the populace doesn't want to start Holocaust 2.0 or anything like that. Even with immigration issues, I doubt any Nazi parties will gain power. Golden Dawn is a Neo-Nazi group that was a rising star in Greek politics for example, but now the trend is reversing. The 2019 election just resulted in all of their seats being lost in the Greek legislature.

And yet the rightists crow about how popular they're getting. I wonder how much of it is just blind vanity, the desire to say that they're more popular. More influential.

Please note that "rightist" is a vague term. We're not all Nazis or do we all come even close to Nazi doctrine.