NationStates

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:I absolutely love this cold war cartoon.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Kowani wrote:…What even is this.

Goddamnit, Nak was right.

Right about what?

Kowani wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Right about what?

Psychedelics. (No, I’m not on drugs.)


Do you mind if I screenshot this?

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Kowani wrote:Psychedelics. (No, I’m not on drugs.)


Do you mind if I screenshot this?

I don't know much about psychedelics. I only know about psychedelic rock, which I love.

Yeah sure, I don't mind. What do you want to screenshot it for though?

Nova Cyberia wrote:

Soviet Tankistan wrote:Showing them by killing everyone, destroying their belongings, and leaving some dubiously qualified warlord to rule over a once democratic nation.

Democracy has no inherent value when the people elect morons who destroy their economies and try to cozy up with the Soviets. We literally did nothing wrong.

First American Empire wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:Democracy has no inherent value when the people elect morons who destroy their economies and try to cozy up with the Soviets. We literally did nothing wrong.

You're in the wrong thread. The RWDT is this way: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=469725

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

First American Empire wrote:
You're in the wrong thread. The RWDT is this way: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=469725

RWDT and LWDT regularly intermingle.

First American Empire wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:Democracy has no inherent value when the people elect morons who destroy their economies and try to cozy up with the Soviets. We literally did nothing wrong.

You're in the wrong thread. The RWDT is this way: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=469725

Torrocca wrote:

First American Empire wrote:
You're in the wrong thread. The RWDT is this way: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=469725

Could you imagine actually unironically defending the "democracy for me, not for thee" imperialist oppression Latin America faced because a lot of countries simply freely elected socialist governments? Incredibly fucked up.

First American Empire wrote:

Torrocca wrote:
Could you imagine actually unironically defending the "democracy for me, not for thee" imperialist oppression Latin America faced because a lot of countries simply freely elected socialist governments? Incredibly fucked up.

I've seen people unironically defend any tyrannical regime you can think of. All of them. Even the one you're thinking is so over-the-top evil that nobody would support them. I've seen people support them.

First American Empire wrote:

Torrocca wrote:
Could you imagine actually unironically defending the "democracy for me, not for thee" imperialist oppression Latin America faced because a lot of countries simply freely elected socialist governments? Incredibly fucked up.

I've seen people unironically defend any tyrannical regime you can think of. All of them. Even the one you're thinking is so over-the-top evil that nobody would support them. I've seen people support them.

Kowani wrote:

First American Empire wrote:
I've seen people unironically defend any tyrannical regime you can think of. All of them. Even the one you're thinking is so over-the-top evil that nobody would support them. I've seen people support them.

Who the fuck defends Pol Pot or Idi Amin?

Kowani wrote:

First American Empire wrote:
I've seen people unironically defend any tyrannical regime you can think of. All of them. Even the one you're thinking is so over-the-top evil that nobody would support them. I've seen people support them.

Who the fuck defends Pol Pot or Idi Amin?

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Kowani wrote:Who the fuck defends Pol Pot or Idi Amin?

Look I'm just gonna say what we're all thinking you have to respect Idi Amin for being the Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular.

First American Empire wrote:

Kowani wrote:Who the fuck defends Pol Pot or Idi Amin?

Some moron who thought Pol Pot's mass murders were American propaganda because the atrocities were "too insane to be real". They were real.

Kowani wrote:To prove to myself that this happened.

And a greater commentary on power dynamics and information, but…

Kowani wrote:

First American Empire wrote:
Some moron who thought Pol Pot's mass murders were American propaganda because the atrocities were "too insane to be real". They were real.

You know, if they weren’t really well documented, that would almost be a legitimate point. Almost.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Kowani wrote:To prove to myself that this happened.

And a greater commentary on power dynamics and information, but…

What commentary about power dynamics and information is that?

Nakena wrote:

Kowani wrote:You know, if they weren’t really well documented, that would almost be a legitimate point. Almost.

Actually the US supported the Khmer Rogue retaining their seat in the UN during the occupation of Cambodia by Bolshevist Vietnam. (who kicked out Pol Pot because he was too creepy even for them)

Kowani wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What commentary about power dynamics and information is that?

The sheer uselessness of rhetoric to change a set mind, but the ability of results to do that instead. Hitter didn’t capture the minds of Germans by convincing the social democrats that he was right, he did it by blaming them (and a lot of other people) for Germany’s economic situation.

Kowani wrote:

Nakena wrote:
Actually the US supported the Khmer Rogue retaining their seat in the UN during the occupation of Cambodia by Bolshevist Vietnam. (who kicked out Pol Pot because he was too creepy even for them)

I’m going to assume anyone who thinks that the horror that was Pol Pot is American propaganda doesn’t know that.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Kowani wrote:The sheer uselessness of rhetoric to change a set mind, but the ability of results to do that instead. Hitter didn’t capture the minds of Germans by convincing the social democrats that he was right, he did it by blaming them (and a lot of other people) for Germany’s economic situation.

Are you going to use me as an example? Let me clarify, I was half joking about the "maybe Communism is right" comment.

Kowani wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Are you going to use me as an example? Let me clarify, I was half joking about the "maybe Communism is right" comment.

I’m not a complete moron, Xeno.
But the point remains.

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:

Kowani wrote:I’m not a complete moron, Xeno.
But the point remains.

What point? I'm an idiot, I don't understand.

Kowani wrote:

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:What point? I'm an idiot, I don't understand.

You’re not an idiot.
But. Essentially, the point is thus-that unless negative results can be seen and linked to a position, rhetoric will do little to any strongly held position.