You realize that doesn’t actually solve the problem-and the timescale makes that idea a terrible one regardless.
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by Kowani » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:03 pm
by Cekoviu » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:09 pm
and the timescale makes that idea a terrible one regardless.
by Cekoviu » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:10 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Whatever the solution is, it needs to involve nuclear power. And more funding to fusion research.
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:15 pm
by Kowani » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:20 pm
At the end of the day, you’ve set a gargantuan amount of people into unemployment. Although spreading it out over several decades (if that was possible) does mitigate some of the damage to the overall society, the individual worker is not as benefited.
Damn capitalism.and the timescale makes that idea a terrible one regardless.
The timing is not ideal, certainly. I would prefer the coal industry to have entered a decline in the 60s or prior, but that is not feasible.
…You’re aware of the negative effects advertising has on a society, right?But coal is not comparable to advertising anyway, due to the vast differences in long-term and multi-species harm that they cause.
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:53 pm
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:01 pm
by Kubra » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:19 pm
Those are real people, in exchange for shilling they get out of the warehouse and pretty much just make inane tweets (with air conditioning!)
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:22 pm
Kubra wrote:Those are real people, in exchange for shilling they get out of the warehouse and pretty much just make inane tweets (with air conditioning!)
I mean, if I were a poor sod working at Amazon, it'd be a hard opportunity to pass up.
by Kowani » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:30 pm
Torrocca wrote:Kubra wrote: Those are real people, in exchange for shilling they get out of the warehouse and pretty much just make inane tweets (with air conditioning!)
I mean, if I were a poor sod working at Amazon, it'd be a hard opportunity to pass up.
It makes me feel slightly better on the inside to believe they're automatons, and not real people who sold their souls to a corporation that doesn't give a shit about them just so they don't have to endure a heatstroke in the warehouses.
It's less depressing that way.
by Kubra » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:36 pm
Hey one might hate uncle toms but better in the house than in the field, no? Natural stuff.Torrocca wrote:Kubra wrote: Those are real people, in exchange for shilling they get out of the warehouse and pretty much just make inane tweets (with air conditioning!)
I mean, if I were a poor sod working at Amazon, it'd be a hard opportunity to pass up.
It makes me feel slightly better on the inside to believe they're automatons, and not real people who sold their souls to a corporation that doesn't give a shit about them just so they don't have to endure a heatstroke in the warehouses.
It's less depressing that way.
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:37 pm
Kowani wrote:Torrocca wrote:
It makes me feel slightly better on the inside to believe they're automatons, and not real people who sold their souls to a corporation that doesn't give a shit about them just so they don't have to endure a heatstroke in the warehouses.
It's less depressing that way.
To close your eyes to their suffering does not alleviate that suffering, but I think you know that.
by Kowani » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:40 pm
Torrocca wrote:Kowani wrote:To close your eyes to their suffering does not alleviate that suffering, but I think you know that.
Of course, and obviously that this is happening does nothing to alleviate my rage against capitalism in general, but even I need an occasional break from the misery that comes with it all.
by Trotskylvania » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:56 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Policy time:
Ban TV adverts for a company that has over 10 million pounds value. It'll certainly liven up the adverts to have the slots open to whatever crap your local maniacs and small businessfolk are trying to sell. Big companies can fund their own campaigns by other means.
Also changes the "Bottom line" calculations for television and means their revenue is based on small businesses instead of large ones demanding they push a pro-corporate line.
Promotes more market competition and so on too.
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Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:58 pm
Kowani wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Of course, and obviously that this is happening does nothing to alleviate my rage against capitalism in general, but even I need an occasional break from the misery that comes with it all.
Of course.
And the economic crisis looming on the horizon just helps put all of this in perspective.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:00 pm
by Kubra » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:01 pm
the existence of PR is what drives my fascination with dynamite
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:01 pm
Kubra wrote:Those are real people, in exchange for shilling they get out of the warehouse and pretty much just make inane tweets (with air conditioning!)
I mean, if I were a poor sod working at Amazon, it'd be a hard opportunity to pass up.
by Kowani » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:02 pm
by Kubra » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:03 pm
They are real in the sense that flesh and blood types it, not necessarily in its representation.The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Kubra wrote: Those are real people, in exchange for shilling they get out of the warehouse and pretty much just make inane tweets (with air conditioning!)
I mean, if I were a poor sod working at Amazon, it'd be a hard opportunity to pass up.
They're not real people. Or at least, they're not who they say they are. An account named Rafael accidentally called himself Michelle in one of his tweets.
by Torrocca » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:04 pm
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:13 pm
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