LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Pushing a failed economic system alongside it does not rehabilitate intersectionality.
Actually it does. Activism without ideological backing is doomed to failure, or worse, regression.
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by Bojikami » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:42 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Pushing a failed economic system alongside it does not rehabilitate intersectionality.

by New yugoslavaia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:08 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, I've come up with my own sort of political spectrum. Feel free to critique.
Basically, it goes something like this...
Both the left and the right are split into 3x3 boxes. The middle row would go like "Centre-moderate-far". The top would catalog the more authoritarian ideologies while bottom row is the opposite. However, these two boxes would be split into 3 boxes, each one representing the afformentioned trio of states (E.g. Moderate left would be centre-moderate, true moderate and far-moderate). The centre would still exist but only as a single collum as centre-right and centre-left would exist as the centre boxes, so only truly centrist ideologies and their authoritarian and liberal/anarchist variants would sit there.
Might expand on this later.
You mean like this?

by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:09 am

by Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:15 am

by Bojikami » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:19 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The political spectrum can only properly be modelled in a badly-modded flight simulator

by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:23 am

by Bojikami » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:42 am

by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:42 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:The political spectrum can only properly be modelled in a badly-modded flight simulator

by Bojikami » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:44 am

by New yugoslavaia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:57 am

by New yugoslavaia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:02 am

by LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:30 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, I've come up with my own sort of political spectrum. Feel free to critique.
Basically, it goes something like this...
Both the left and the right are split into 3x3 boxes. The middle row would go like "Centre-moderate-far". The top would catalog the more authoritarian ideologies while bottom row is the opposite. However, these two boxes would be split into 3 boxes, each one representing the afformentioned trio of states (E.g. Moderate left would be centre-moderate, true moderate and far-moderate). The centre would still exist but only as a single collum as centre-right and centre-left would exist as the centre boxes, so only truly centrist ideologies and their authoritarian and liberal/anarchist variants would sit there.
Might expand on this later.
You mean like this?

by Kowani » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:36 am
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Unfortunately, what constitutes right-wing politics is debatable. Some people view being pro-capitalist as essential to being a right-winger, while others think social conservatism or being socially reactionary is enough. Some people like Richard Spencer are viewed as right-wing, despite adopting left-wing views on economics. Sometimes some right-libertarians are viewed as centrists due to their social liberalism alongside support for capitalism, others call them right-wing.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:03 am
Kowani wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Unfortunately, what constitutes right-wing politics is debatable. Some people view being pro-capitalist as essential to being a right-winger, while others think social conservatism or being socially reactionary is enough. Some people like Richard Spencer are viewed as right-wing, despite adopting left-wing views on economics. Sometimes some right-libertarians are viewed as centrists due to their social liberalism alongside support for capitalism, others call them right-wing.
It’s almost like things are a spectrum!

by New yugoslavaia » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:00 pm

by Kowani » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:09 pm
New yugoslavaia wrote:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574926204524560398/607678688388972565/unknown.png
Rough and incomplete representation.
I am aware of the difference between social and economic left/right wing ideas. This is just an early draft. Will expand on it.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:26 pm
Kowani wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Unfortunately, what constitutes right-wing politics is debatable. Some people view being pro-capitalist as essential to being a right-winger, while others think social conservatism or being socially reactionary is enough. Some people like Richard Spencer are viewed as right-wing, despite adopting left-wing views on economics. Sometimes some right-libertarians are viewed as centrists due to their social liberalism alongside support for capitalism, others call them right-wing.
It’s almost like things are a spectrum!

by The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:28 pm
New yugoslavaia wrote:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574926204524560398/607678688388972565/unknown.png
Rough and incomplete representation.
I am aware of the difference between social and economic left/right wing ideas. This is just an early draft. Will expand on it.

by Kowani » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:28 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:56 pm

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by Democratic Communist Federation » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:57 am
North German Realm wrote:Similarly, an Anarchist and a Marxist-Leninist would be "Far-left". The problem is, they're both far (i.e. extreme) and both left (at least from an economic point of view.)
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by LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:03 am
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:North German Realm wrote:Similarly, an Anarchist and a Marxist-Leninist would be "Far-left". The problem is, they're both far (i.e. extreme) and both left (at least from an economic point of view.)
And libertarian Marxists are generally regarded as further to the left that [edit: than] Marxist-Leninists. However, there are always exceptions, such as Antonio Gramsci and György (Georg) Lukács who were both, for lack of a better term, libertarian Marxist Leninists.
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