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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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Eternal Lotharia
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:34 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I wouldn't consider teaching your dog how to nazi salute be anything horrible, but it's a little messed up tho. Also, the dude's intention was just to tease his girlfriend iirc, not cause a whole ruckus.

Yes.

I liked a Communist Doggo and made it a profile pic for a while.

Doesn't mean I am Commie.
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First American Empire
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Postby First American Empire » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:34 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Liriena wrote:
The only good first post ever.

Anyway, circling back to "brocialist", because I have nothing better to do right now and I feel like being a ponderous oaf, I almost felt like equating the term with "TERF" in terms of how accurate its definition as a "slur" is... but then it came to me that that's not fair.

I'd say "brocialist" is kinda stuck in the grey area between "overused slur sometimes hurled in one form of other at anyone to the left of Clinton in bad faith" and "useful shorthand for identifying an actual problem in many left-wing circles". I don't think it's unfair to say that some left-wing circles do suffer from having a very... umm... monolithic demographic and, thus, a very limited perspective on social and cultural that feeds on economic reductionism, which in turns justifies that limited perspective. No joke, I actually got a couple not-at-all-mad DMs from one on Reddit a couple days back, and in true brocialist fashion, they combined their whining about "idpol" with ableist slurs and tinges of homophobia.

I twitch whenever I hear 'brocialist' because it gives me flashbacks to the Dem primary in 2015/16.

We were literally supporting the more radical candidate in regards to undertaking action regarding race and gender.

[screaming externally]


I supported Sanders in 2016 too, but there were definitely some awful people who also happened to support him. They didn't make up a majority of Sanders supporters, and Sanders himself wasn't one of them, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a problem.

(I'm probably going to vote for Warren in 2020 though.)
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:34 pm

Liriena wrote:
Yusseria wrote:If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

"The left are all like pre-programmed video game characters who collectively say the same thing over and over and have no independent thought... and to prove it, we're going to collectively adopt and repeat this three-letter insult over and over"
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:34 pm

Byzconia wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

Why, hello, Mr. Strawman, fancy seeing you here! (Also, under no definition of the phrase does a liberal socialist qualify as "far-left.")

If you think Dankula ought to be charged with anything, you're not far-left, you're far-gone.
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:35 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I wouldn't consider teaching your dog how to nazi salute be anything horrible, but it's a little messed up tho. Also, the dude's intention was just to tease his girlfriend iirc, not cause a whole ruckus.

then why put it up on youtube, he was stirring shit and got upset when it blew up in his face.
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

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one week ban for flaming xd

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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:35 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Byzconia wrote:Right-wingers: "Facts don't care about your feelings!"

Also Right-wingers: "You know, I feel really insulted by you pointing out those facts about my self-professed ideology."

Literally zero of what you said is relevant. National Syndicalism is the ideological precursor of Fascism, the fact you don't like that doesn't make it not true.

I don't really care dude lmao. I don't take it to the lengths of fascism.

Which still isn't relevant to what I said.
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Eternal Lotharia
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:35 pm

So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.
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Greater Westralia
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Postby Greater Westralia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:35 pm

Uiiop wrote:Making a joke involving Nazism doesn't inherently mean it makes nazism the butt of a joke.
"I made a dog do a bad thing. Umad." regradless of his right to make it doesn't quite the same punch as "Nazism will come back again under a wimpy flimsy disguise." Does it?

British propagandists literally had marching Nazis do the quadrille (or some other dance) by re-editing scenes from Triumph of the Will.

Their propaganda wasn't really high-brow.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:36 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.



And in other news, water is wet.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:36 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

elaborate
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:36 pm

Byzconia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:in my experience, right and racist are mutually inclusive. I can't speak for everyone though.

Anglo-Saxon conservatism does tend to have a large degree of implicit racism in it, but it's important to distinguish between actual racists and people who are simply uninformed about the racist connotations of certain arguments/ideas.

Uiiop wrote:This cuts both ways mind.
Just like "It was a just a joke" doesn't make a statement inherently harmless. ""Making light of the mass murder of millions of innocent people" doesn't make a statement harmful by itself.
It's not like a joke can't be aimed at how fucked up the murders are or how good the screams must have sounded. Or in this case it seems "Ohh i made him do a baad thing."

Yes, it absolutely fucking does.

How?
You can make a joke about it and still take it as the fucked up atrocities they are.
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Eternal Lotharia
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:36 pm

New haven america wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.



And in other news, water is wet.

They aren't as civil as other candidate supporters tho.

They make themselves look like bad people.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:36 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Liriena wrote:By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

When you try and use our own memes against us, yes. Honestly, you just end up proving how funny they are, tbh.

"NPC"

"Saying NPC over and over is kinda NPC-ish, tho"

"That proves it's funny!"

Uh... yeah, as I said: huge self-own.
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Political compass stuff:
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm

Byzconia wrote:
Yusseria wrote:I gotta say I've pretty much gotten numb to being called a fascist and a Nazi. Doesn't really even phase me anymore.

It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.

Right-wingers: "Facts don't care about your feelings!"

Also Right-wingers: "You know, I feel really insulted by you pointing out those facts about my self-professed ideology."

Literally zero of what you said is relevant. National Syndicalism is the ideological precursor of Fascism, the fact you don't like that doesn't make it not true.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm

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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

You didn't realize this the last time?

Bernie Bros are absolutely insufferable people.

I mean, who the fuck unironically says "Feel the Bern" without realizing how cringe-inducing it is?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm

Crysuko wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I wouldn't consider teaching your dog how to nazi salute be anything horrible, but it's a little messed up tho. Also, the dude's intention was just to tease his girlfriend iirc, not cause a whole ruckus.

then why put it up on youtube, he was stirring sh*t and got upset when it blew up in his face.

Tbh both sides overracted: one side for punishing him for a joke, however tasteless, and him for doing something while not thinking it through.
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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:37 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Byzconia wrote:Why, hello, Mr. Strawman, fancy seeing you here! (Also, under no definition of the phrase does a liberal socialist qualify as "far-left.")

If you think Dankula ought to be charged with anything, you're not far-left, you're far-gone.

"Disagreeing with me on one specific issue means you're literally worse than Stalin!!!!!!" (since I'm assuming your intent is to make "far-gone" worse than "far-left")
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

I can see why some people would find Bernie's most ardent supporters obnoxious... but I can't really blame them, for the most part.
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Political compass stuff:
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

elaborate

Calling anyone who doesn't support Bernie not a true Leftist, traitor to America, and the problem, and cussing at them, and calling them DINOS like how Trump Supporters call non-trump supporting or non trump policy supporting Repubs RINOS.
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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
Yusseria wrote:When you try and use our own memes against us, yes. Honestly, you just end up proving how funny they are, tbh.

"NPC"

"Saying NPC over and over is kinda NPC-ish, tho"

"That proves it's funny!"

Uh... yeah, as I said: huge self-own.

That's not even the meme, friendo.

The meme isn't just repeating the phrase "NPC" over and over.
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Postby Byzconia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

Source?
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Postby First American Empire » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Yusseria wrote:It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce it. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.


Trust me, those of us with weird names never "just stop caring and tune out the noise".
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Eternal Lotharia
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

You didn't realize this the last time?

Bernie Bros are absolutely insufferable people.

I mean, who the fuck unironically says "Feel the Bern" without realizing how cringe-inducing it is?

....I do.

I like puns, don't judge me!
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Keyboard being a pain. Will take longer to do stuff until further notice.
This flag does not represent my nation being evil or nazi, fascist, etc., it's not. I'm also not any of those.
This nation's Policies partially represent my views, partially are experimental, same thing with how my nation is in RP.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:So, the Bernie Bros are acting as bad as Trump Supporters to people not supporting him.

You didn't realize this the last time?

Bernie Bros are absolutely insufferable people.

I mean, who the fuck unironically says "Feel the Bern" without realizing how cringe-inducing it is?

You didn't realize this the last time?

Trumpists are absolutely insufferable people.

I mean, who the fuck unironically says "Can't Stump The Trump" without realizing how cringe-inducing it is?
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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