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by Chernoslavia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:27 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:29 pm
by Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:29 pm
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:30 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Ah, okay. Then I'd say that we have different definitions, perhaps, of freedom.
Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:31 pm
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:31 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:So who's the OP of LWDT VIII?
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:32 pm
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.
Doesn't that "as much as possible" run into your opinion on money in politics?
by Chernoslavia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:32 pm
by New haven america » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:32 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:Ah, okay. Then I'd say that we have different definitions, perhaps, of freedom.
Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.
by Torrocca » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:33 pm
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:33 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:34 pm
New haven america wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Mine is personal and economic autonomy as much as humanly and reasonably possible. I just have a more anti-corruption attitude to politics, as I know megadoners create a system of cronyism.
That's an oxymoron.
You can't have total economic autonomy while also disallowing politicians from getting funded by megadonors. They're spending and making money how they choose to.
by Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:34 pm
by New haven america » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:35 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:New haven america wrote:That's an oxymoron.
You can't have total economic autonomy while also disallowing politicians from getting funded by megadonors. They're spending and making money how they choose to.
Alright, that is one of my only restrictions on economic autonomy. Sue me for using imperfect language.
by Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:37 pm
by Torrocca » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:37 pm
by New haven america » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:37 pm
by Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:38 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:38 pm
Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Not in my case. I said "humanly and reasonably possible," I don't think having a system run by megadoners is reasonable. It is just legalized corruption.
What if I were to shift my definition of "reasonable" further south, so to speak? Would that be, in your mind, acceptable?
by Chernoslavia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:39 pm
by New haven america » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:40 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:What if I were to shift my definition of "reasonable" further south, so to speak? Would that be, in your mind, acceptable?
I don't know what you view as reasonable. Maybe or maybe not. Either way, I don't support megadoners controlling politics and I support restrictions on donations as a result, and if my language is imprecise, I'll fix it.
by Kowani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:41 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:41 pm
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:42 pm
by Pacomia » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:49 pm
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