LWDT 7: The Earth and Heavens Tremble.

[Kowani]

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit... The open primaries are over and Macri and his entire neoliberal coalition got absolutely obliterated. If these results hold in the general, he'll lose the presidency and the province of Buenos Aires by a landslide to the Peronists under Fernández & Fernández.

Not only that, but all the more right-wing parties fell behind the goddamn Trotskyists.

No wonder Macri's team refused to say anything concrete or make any sort of evaluations for the future and the rest of the campaign before the first official results came in. They are done. Macri just blew his way through all of the political capital of the three big parties his coalition was built on. He's single-handedly killed Republican Proposal, the Radical Civic Union and the Civic Coalition. Elisa Carrió, the leader of the Civic Coaliton, rushed onto stage after Macri admitted defeat and gave an impromptu, absolutely deranged speech where she whined that the majority are just conformists who like authoritarianism and compared us to ancient Hebrews who wanted to return to their old Egyptian masters during the Exodus.

You know what? I think I love my country now.

Ostíaaa.
Good news all around.

[Liriena]

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit... The open primaries are over and Macri and his entire neoliberal coalition got absolutely obliterated. If these results hold in the general, he'll lose the presidency and the province of Buenos Aires by a landslide to the Peronists under Fernández & Fernández.

Not only that, but all the more right-wing parties fell behind the goddamn Trotskyists.

No wonder Macri's team refused to say anything concrete or make any sort of evaluations for the future and the rest of the campaign before the first official results came in. They are done. Macri just blew his way through all of the political capital of the three big parties his coalition was built on. He's single-handedly killed Republican Proposal, the Radical Civic Union and the Civic Coalition. Elisa Carrió, the leader of the Civic Coaliton, rushed onto stage after Macri admitted defeat and gave an impromptu, absolutely deranged speech where she whined that the majority are just conformists who like authoritarianism and compared us to ancient Hebrews who wanted to return to their old Egyptian masters during the Exodus.

You know what? I think I love my country now.

Amazing.

I was there, Torra. I saw it IRL.

Macri was giving his press conference. Nobody knew the numbers yet because the (outsourced) vote counting system had apparently crashed. We were dying for anything. Any hard data, or even an estimate. And one journalist finally got to ask and it was... just...

Polling the days before these primaries gave Fernández a lead of somewhere between four and seven points. Maybe less. So she asked him. Was Fernández actual lead larger than four points? Larger than seven points?

An Macri, with a look in his eyes that was just begging to be Curb your enthusiasm'ed, mumbled: larger than ten.

I could have sworn that every journalist there with me took a deep breath and tried desperately not to gasp.

It was fifteen, btw. He lost to Fernández by fifteen points in an open primary.

[Liriena]

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit... The open primaries are over and Macri and his entire neoliberal coalition got absolutely obliterated. If these results hold in the general, he'll lose the presidency and the province of Buenos Aires by a landslide to the Peronists under Fernández & Fernández.

Not only that, but all the more right-wing parties fell behind the goddamn Trotskyists.

No wonder Macri's team refused to say anything concrete or make any sort of evaluations for the future and the rest of the campaign before the first official results came in. They are done. Macri just blew his way through all of the political capital of the three big parties his coalition was built on. He's single-handedly killed Republican Proposal, the Radical Civic Union and the Civic Coalition. Elisa Carrió, the leader of the Civic Coaliton, rushed onto stage after Macri admitted defeat and gave an impromptu, absolutely deranged speech where she whined that the majority are just conformists who like authoritarianism and compared us to ancient Hebrews who wanted to return to their old Egyptian masters during the Exodus.

You know what? I think I love my country now.

That sounds like good news. Argentina Thread is up too: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=470510 i feel bad though for UCR.

Besides havent seen you recently on here anymore. How you're holding up?

I'm great, tbh. Back in classes (but this is my last term so yay), working hard-ish and doing journalism.

[Torrocca]

Amazing.

I was there, Torra. I saw it IRL.

Macri was giving his press conference. Nobody knew the numbers yet because the (outsourced) vote counting system had apparently crashed. We were dying for anything. Any hard data, or even an estimate. And one journalist finally got to ask and it was... just...

Polling the days before these primaries gave Fernández an advantage of somewhere between four and seven points. Maybe less. So she asked him. Was Fernández advantage actual lead larger than four points? Bigger than larger points?

An Macri, with a look in his eyes that was just begging to be Curb your enthusiasm'ed just mumbled: larger than ten.

I could have sworn that every journalist there with me took a deep breath and tried desperately not to gasp.

It was fifteen, btw. He lost to Fernández by fifteen points in an open primary.

I fucking love this so much. Here's to hoping that that momentum is kept up with Argentina and things go progressively leftward.

[Liriena]

I was there, Torra. I saw it IRL.

Macri was giving his press conference. Nobody knew the numbers yet because the (outsourced) vote counting system had apparently crashed. We were dying for anything. Any hard data, or even an estimate. And one journalist finally got to ask and it was... just...

Polling the days before these primaries gave Fernández an advantage of somewhere between four and seven points. Maybe less. So she asked him. Was Fernández advantage actual lead larger than four points? Bigger than larger points?

An Macri, with a look in his eyes that was just begging to be Curb your enthusiasm'ed just mumbled: larger than ten.

I could have sworn that every journalist there with me took a deep breath and tried desperately not to gasp.

It was fifteen, btw. He lost to Fernández by fifteen points in an open primary.

I fucking love this so much. Here's to hoping that that momentum is kept up with Argentina and things go progressively leftward.

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit... The open primaries are over and Macri and his entire neoliberal coalition got absolutely obliterated. If these results hold in the general, he'll lose the presidency and the province of Buenos Aires by a landslide to the Peronists under Fernández & Fernández.

Not only that, but all the more right-wing parties fell behind the goddamn Trotskyists.

No wonder Macri's team refused to say anything concrete or make any sort of evaluations for the future and the rest of the campaign before the first official results came in. They are done. Macri just blew his way through all of the political capital of the three big parties his coalition was built on. He's single-handedly killed Republican Proposal, the Radical Civic Union and the Civic Coalition. Elisa Carrió, the leader of the Civic Coaliton, rushed onto stage after Macri admitted defeat and gave an impromptu, absolutely deranged speech where she whined that the majority are just conformists who like authoritarianism and compared us to ancient Hebrews who wanted to return to their old Egyptian masters during the Exodus.

You know what? I think I love my country now.

Why'd they have to be Trotskyists though?

[Torrocca]

I fucking love this so much. Here's to hoping that that momentum is kept up with Argentina and things go progressively leftward.

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

[Liriena]

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit... The open primaries are over and Macri and his entire neoliberal coalition got absolutely obliterated. If these results hold in the general, he'll lose the presidency and the province of Buenos Aires by a landslide to the Peronists under Fernández & Fernández.

Not only that, but all the more right-wing parties fell behind the goddamn Trotskyists.

No wonder Macri's team refused to say anything concrete or make any sort of evaluations for the future and the rest of the campaign before the first official results came in. They are done. Macri just blew his way through all of the political capital of the three big parties his coalition was built on. He's single-handedly killed Republican Proposal, the Radical Civic Union and the Civic Coalition. Elisa Carrió, the leader of the Civic Coaliton, rushed onto stage after Macri admitted defeat and gave an impromptu, absolutely deranged speech where she whined that the majority are just conformists who like authoritarianism and compared us to ancient Hebrews who wanted to return to their old Egyptian masters during the Exodus.

You know what? I think I love my country now.

Why'd they have to be Trotskyists though?

Because everyone else is either dead or a liberal now, basically.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Why'd they have to be Trotskyists though?

Because everyone else is either dead or a liberal now, basically.

Well what's wrong with being a liberal?

[Liriena]

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

Oh, it will. All hail our Supreme Chairman, the one true Pepe! >:3

[Torrocca]

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

Oh, it will. All hail our Supreme Chairman, the one true Pepe! >:3

>:3

[Kowani]

Why'd they have to be Trotskyists though?

That's super f*ckin weird.

Not really. Trotsky was killed by an ice pick, so they went somewhere with no need for ice picks.

[Liriena]

Because everyone else is either dead or a liberal now, basically.

Well what's wrong with being a liberal?

Nothing necessarily... but in Argentina's case, liberalism is forced to carry with it the baggage of 90s liberalism, which is the least fun kind of liberalism.

In all seriousness... yeah... Trotskyists are basically the only consistent and relatively significant left-wing movement left here. And tbh, were they anything other than Trotskyists, they could actually be great. They have a cool platform for the most part. It's just that their commitment to ideological consistency and purity and never being hypocritical and never compromising in their ideals has the downside that most people will, understandably, think of them as little more than dirty Castro-sympathizing hippies.

[Liriena]

Well what's wrong with being a liberal?

Nothing necessarily... but in Argentina's case, liberalism is forced to carry with it the baggage of 90s liberalism, which is the least fun kind of liberalism.

In all seriousness... yeah... Trotskyists are basically the only consistent and relatively significant left-wing movement left here. And tbh, were they anything other than Trotskyists, they could actually be great. They have a cool platform for the most part. It's just that their commitment to ideological consistency and purity and never being hypocritical and never compromising in their ideals has the downside that most people will, understandably, think of them as little more than dirty Castro-sympathizing hippies.

Every other non-Peronist left-wing movement either turned neoliberal-ish or just got yeeted into nothingness during the 20th century by the Radicals, the Peronists and the military.

[Nakena]

I'm great, tbh. Back in classes (but this is my last term so yay), working hard-ish and doing journalism.

Glad to read you're alright.

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

A question is though... Did the people more vote for Fernandez or more against Macri?

Nothing necessarily... but in Argentina's case, liberalism is forced to carry with it the baggage of 90s liberalism, which is the least fun kind of liberalism.

In all seriousness... yeah... Trotskyists are basically the only consistent and relatively significant left-wing movement left here. And tbh, were they anything other than Trotskyists, they could actually be great. They have a cool platform for the most part. It's just that their commitment to ideological consistency and purity and never being hypocritical and never compromising in their ideals has the downside that most people will, understandably, think of them as little more than dirty Castro-sympathizing hippies.

Every other non-Peronist left-wing movement either turned neoliberal-ish or just got yeeted into nothingness during the 20th century by the Radicals, the Peronists and the military.

And lets not forget Menem was himself Peronist too. So theres that. Then again argentine politics can be weird I guess.

Oh, it will. All hail our Supreme Chairman, the one true Pepe! >:3

>:3

He was actually quite remarkable.

[Kubra]

Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit... The open primaries are over and Macri and his entire neoliberal coalition got absolutely obliterated. If these results hold in the general, he'll lose the presidency and the province of Buenos Aires by a landslide to the Peronists under Fernández & Fernández.

Not only that, but all the more right-wing parties fell behind the goddamn Trotskyists.

No wonder Macri's team refused to say anything concrete or make any sort of evaluations for the future and the rest of the campaign before the first official results came in. They are done. Macri just blew his way through all of the political capital of the three big parties his coalition was built on. He's single-handedly killed Republican Proposal, the Radical Civic Union and the Civic Coalition. Elisa Carrió, the leader of the Civic Coaliton, rushed onto stage after Macri admitted defeat and gave an impromptu, absolutely deranged speech where she whined that the majority are just conformists who like authoritarianism and compared us to ancient Hebrews who wanted to return to their old Egyptian masters during the Exodus.

You know what? I think I love my country now.

Why'd they have to be Trotskyists though?

Trotskyism is like protestantism: there's something for everyone. And if there isn't in your little grouplet, SPLIIIIIIT
Well, put simply, trotskyists run the gamut of quite decent blokes to fairly crazy, simply because there's so many of them with many different interpretations and politics. Not usually bonkers insane though, that's Mao territory.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Because everyone else is either dead or a liberal now, basically.

Well what's wrong with being a liberal?

Liberals won't end capitalism.

[Pacomia]

Why'd they have to be Trotskyists though?

Because everyone else is either dead or a liberal now, basically.

Yeah, we’re all infected with the LIBTARD VIRUS. WE’RE ALL LIBERALS.

Slow down. What you say makes no sense.

[Cekoviu]

Amazing.

I was there, Torra. I saw it IRL.

Macri was giving his press conference. Nobody knew the numbers yet because the (outsourced) vote counting system had apparently crashed. We were dying for anything. Any hard data, or even an estimate. And one journalist finally got to ask and it was... just...

Polling the days before these primaries gave Fernández a lead of somewhere between four and seven points. Maybe less. So she asked him. Was Fernández actual lead larger than four points? Larger than seven points?

An Macri, with a look in his eyes that was just begging to be Curb your enthusiasm'ed, mumbled: larger than ten.

I could have sworn that every journalist there with me took a deep breath and tried desperately not to gasp.

It was fifteen, btw. He lost to Fernández by fifteen points in an open primary.

If you find the footage, I can probably Curb Your Enthusiasm it for the common good.

[Solarist VZ]

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

I'll prefer to fucking die.
No saben lo que estan hablando.

[Cekoviu]

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

I'll prefer to fucking die.
No saben lo que estan hablando.

No habla l'português.

[Kowani]

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

I'll prefer to fucking die.
No saben lo que estan hablando.

Epérate, tú de dónde ere?

I'll prefer to fucking die.
No saben lo que estan hablando.

No habla l'português.

Cek, what?

[Cekoviu]

No habla l'português.

Cek, what?

È faceto.

[Kowani]

Cek, what?

È faceto.

Ah, Italiano.

[Proctopeo]

It sure looks like we might be on the verge of a Pink Tide 2.0

Hopefully the rest of South America will follow suit >:3

I'll prefer to fucking die.
No saben lo que estan hablando.

tbh South America has a bad track record with basically every government type, so there's always reason to be upset, but also always reason to change.