LWDT 7: The Earth and Heavens Tremble.

[Cekoviu]

Because America left the Free World. The presidential election was stolen in plain sight by 2.8 million votes, and the president who stole said election is a serial rapist who puts children in concentration camps.

No proof he stole the presidency

2016 presidential election popular vote

or a rapist

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." -Donald Trump, explaining how he deals with sexual encounters
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... -full-list

and concentration camps....

Conditions in border detention camps are completely inhumane and strongly reminiscent of the conditions in historical concentration camps.
And before you say the term is inappropriate...

rly?

Unfortunately, yes.

[Proctopeo]

She doesn't really seem that conservative, or at least she has none of the positive aspects of conservatism. A young modern moderate conservative (the kind who's somewhat liberal on gay marriage and drugs and stuff) couldn't find much to relate to her at all. And how's she leader of the free world?

She's the most important person in the free world and is also a leader in Germany, which is at the forefront?

>Germany
>part of the free world
Nice joke.

What do you mean? There are many reasons not to consider Trump as the leader of the Free World, I wouldn't consider his election one of them.

The concept of the "free world" is pretty stupid because really only the US and Britain did any of the heavy lifting.

You can add France to that, though both them and Britain didn't do quite as much as the US.

How TF is Germany at the forefront of the "Free World"?

Because America left the Free World. The presidential election was stolen in plain sight by 2.8 million votes, and the president who stole said election is a serial rapist who puts children in concentration camps.

Oy vey, again with the """"stolen presidency"""" drivel. It's incredibly inaccurate and not even funny.

Besides, IIRC, a lot of the policies you yourself espouse would do far more to remove any country from the "free world" than anything you mentioned, so...

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

He wasn't elected democratically, but he was elected legally. The electoral college, while I don't like it either, is the legal method by which a person is appointed president. I guess by the same logic Obama wasn't the leader of the free world since 2012 either.

But…Obama won the popular vote in 2012....

A couple of caveats, scratch Obama off that list I just said, because Xeno did not factcheck her statement before making it.

[First American Empire]

Because America left the Free World. The presidential election was stolen in plain sight by 2.8 million votes, and the president who stole said election is a serial rapist who puts children in concentration camps.

No proof he stole the presidency, or a rapist, and concentration camps....rly?

I don't like Trump, in fact I think he's a clown, but let's not lie.

The US government's own numbers show he got 2.8 million less votes than Hillary Clinton, he got caught admitting to sexual assault on camera, and his prisons for legal asylum seekers meet the international definition of concentration camps.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

2016 presidential election popular vote

The fact that he won the election without winning the popular vote is wrong, but not illegal, so it's not really "stealing the presidency."

[Cekoviu]

She's the most important person in the free world and is also a leader in Germany, which is at the forefront?

>Germany
>part of the free world
Nice joke.

"lol germany isn't free bc i don't like how it doesn't align with my views"

Seriously, find a new shtick. It's getting tiring.

[Cekoviu]

2016 presidential election popular vote

The fact that he won the election without winning the popular vote is wrong, but not illegal, so it's not really "stealing the presidency."

If we consider "stealing" to strictly mean larceny without any metaphorical meanings, yes? That's not how language works, though.

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

How TF is Germany at the forefront of the "Free World"?

Because America left the Free World. The presidential election was stolen in plain sight by 2.8 million votes, and the president who stole said election is a serial rapist who puts children in concentration camps.

That's a bit of an extreme claim.

First off while he did lose the popular vote, he won the electoral college which is the legal/ACTUAL method by which the president of the US is elected. With that in mind I would hardly say that he stole the election, but rather that he won the votes of the people/places that it mattered most. Honestly you people need to come to grips with that fact.

Secondly I would hardly call the man a serial rapist. Now I will agree with you that he has a history of misogyny and offcolour sexual remarks, but the rape accusations against him are honestly dubious at best. With regards to the throwing children in concentration camps...Eh's that's really the only point you have where you're not entirely wrong, but even then I think it's a bit of a stretch to call glorified holding centers concentration camps.

[Kowani]

But…Obama won the popular vote in 2012....

A couple of caveats, scratch Obama off that list I just said, because Xeno did not factcheck her statement before making it.

Datacracy strikes again!

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

A couple of caveats, scratch Obama off that list I just said, because Xeno did not factcheck her statement before making it.

Datacracy strikes again!

Whatcracy?

[Kowani]

Datacracy strikes again!

Whatcracy?

Data-cracy.
Rule by data.

[Cekoviu]

Because America left the Free World. The presidential election was stolen in plain sight by 2.8 million votes, and the president who stole said election is a serial rapist who puts children in concentration camps.

That's a bit of an extreme claim.

First off while he did lose the popular vote, he won the electoral college which is the legal/ACTUAL method by which the president of the US is elected. With that in mind I would hardly say that he stole the election, but rather that he won the votes of the people/places that it mattered most. Honestly you people need to come to grips with that fact.

The issue is that fucking Wyoming and South Dakota don't matter most. They're extremely insignificant to the overall economy of the United States, but a person in Wyoming's vote counts for four times as much as someone in Texas's. That's not fair to the American people and it shouldn't be the case.

[Proctopeo]

>Germany
>part of the free world
Nice joke.

"lol germany isn't free bc i don't like how it doesn't align with my views"

Seriously, find a new shtick. It's getting tiring.

Their constitution literally gives the government a blank check for censorship, as long as the government approves of the censorship the government wants to do.

You can also be fined for the heinous crime of insulting someone, and disparaging/insulting the president gets you between three to five months in prison (unlike the similar clause relating to foreign officials, it's still completely active). Some of their laws make sense with their past in context, but these very much... don't. There's other stuff, too, but it's too late to actively look into it.

Oh, and they have an official censorship board; while things banned by it aren't de jure illegal unless they violate a defined law, they're very hard to get your hands on, even as an adult.

The fact that he won the election without winning the popular vote is wrong, but not illegal, so it's not really "stealing the presidency."

If we consider "stealing" to strictly mean larceny without any metaphorical meanings, yes? That's not how language works, though.

There's no remotely common definition of stealing wherein "won an election (probably) legitimately but did not get the popular vote, which is okay, as it's not relevant here" actually counts.

[Cappuccina]

No proof he stole the presidency

2016 presidential election popular vote

or a rapist

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." -Donald Trump, explaining how he deals with sexual encounters
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... -full-list

and concentration camps....

Conditions in border detention camps are completely inhumane and strongly reminiscent of the conditions in historical concentration camps.
And before you say the term is inappropriate...

rly?

Unfortunately, yes.

Trump won the Electoral College, he won legally.

Trump dropping fakts that thots will be thots, and that he's a sleaze-ball who fornicates with them....not rape though.

Til they're imitating Auschwitz or a gulag, the holding centers are not concentration camps.

[Proctopeo]

2016 presidential election popular vote

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." -Donald Trump, explaining how he deals with sexual encounters
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... -full-list

Conditions in border detention camps are completely inhumane and strongly reminiscent of the conditions in historical concentration camps.
And before you say the term is inappropriate...

Unfortunately, yes.

Trump won the Electoral College, he won legally.

People seem to forget that.

Trump dropping fakts that thots will be thots, and that he's a sleaze-ball who fornicates with them....not rape though.

It's actually kinda ambiguous what "they let you do it" means. "Thots will be thots" is definitely true for many cases, however.
Nothing seems to have been proven definitively, though, just accusations and him bragging about seizing the means of reproduction.

Til they're imitating Auschwitz or a gulag, the holding centers are not concentration camps.

By the most literal, strict definition, they are temporary accommodations where people are gathered in a mass, with many aspects of prisons, which makes them ""concentration" "camps""
By a definition that acknowledges that "concentration camp" has connotations, they're "internment camps".

[Kowani]

Seriously, find a new shtick. It's getting tiring.

Their constitution literally gives the government a blank check for censorship, as long as the government approves of the censorship the government wants to do.[/quote]
And the US Constitution allows the government a blank check to invade people’s houses if the government approves of the invasion. Your point?

Til they're imitating Auschwitz or a gulag, the holding centers are not concentration camps.

Death camps and concentration camps are not the same thing. Learn the difference.

[Proctopeo]

And the US Constitution allows the government a blank check to invade people’s houses if the government approves of the invasion. Your point?

The rest of my post is my point.

Read it sometime, instead of going whatabout

[Kowani]

And the US Constitution allows the government a blank check to invade people’s houses if the government approves of the invasion. Your point?

The rest of my post is my point.

Read it sometime, instead of going whatabout

Yeah, I’m not defending all of Germany’s speech laws.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Angela Merkel is one of the few conservative politicians I respect, precisely because of stuff like this. I may prefer the Greens and SPD, but she's done an admirable job as Chancellor of Germany and (since 2017) as Leader of the Free World.

She welcomed Syrian immigrants when many other European countries were turning them away.

[Nakena]

Angela Merkel is one of the few conservative politicians I respect, precisely because of stuff like this. I may prefer the Greens and SPD, but she's done an admirable job as Chancellor of Germany and (since 2017) as Leader of the Free World.

She welcomed Syrian immigrants when many other European countries were turning them away.

Which as result led to the rise of a new far-right movement in Germany and beyond, and likely also contributed to the election of Donald Trump and Brexit.

[North German Realm]

Angela Merkel is one of the few conservative politicians I respect, precisely because of stuff like this. I may prefer the Greens and SPD, but she's done an admirable job as Chancellor of Germany and (since 2017) as Leader of the Free World.

She welcomed Syrian immigrants when many other European countries were turning them away.

That's one of my few problems with her. Welcoming Muslims into your country -in any capacity, in any form- is generally a mistake, and this one is something that she's been forced to bullshit her way through ever since.

[Al Mumtahanah]

She welcomed Syrian immigrants when many other European countries were turning them away.

Which as result led to the rise of a new far-right movement in Germany and beyond, and likely also contributed to the election of Donald Trump and Brexit.

Not being white nationalist leads to nationalism?

[Nakena]

She welcomed Syrian immigrants when many other European countries were turning them away.

That's one of my few problems with her. Welcoming Muslims into your country -in any capacity, in any form- is generally a mistake, and this one is something that she's been forced to bullshit her way through ever since.

But saying so is not only heretic to left-liberal orthodoxy it is also raycist.

According to the prevailing views in the mainstream media that is. And anyone who opposes is an almost literal nazi.

It will, however, in the long run lead to some serious problems.

[Ostroeuropa]

That's a bit of an extreme claim.

First off while he did lose the popular vote, he won the electoral college which is the legal/ACTUAL method by which the president of the US is elected. With that in mind I would hardly say that he stole the election, but rather that he won the votes of the people/places that it mattered most. Honestly you people need to come to grips with that fact.

The issue is that fucking Wyoming and South Dakota don't matter most. They're extremely insignificant to the overall economy of the United States, but a person in Wyoming's vote counts for four times as much as someone in Texas's. That's not fair to the American people and it shouldn't be the case.

Welsh votes matter more than English ones too in terms of amount of representation it gives. It's part of the price countries sometimes pay in order to keep a union together. It's all well and good to demand one person one vote and equal representation when its not your way of life under threat.

The problem is soluble with more states rights, but we all know that will never happen and neither party would allow it, with dissolving the union, or with a dominant culture enforcing their views on a weaker one and effectively ending once and for all their chance at self-determination.

Nobody seems to bat an eye at celtic countries having these concessions, nor other arrangements in other countries which are similar.

More voting power to rural and culturally distinct areas is a price nations pay for a strong federal government. Those costs go up if the cultural and political differences are significant, which they often are. It happens practically everywhere.

In the UK, you've got some people whose vote counts for four times as much as other peoples. That's 10% more disproportionate than the US, comparing Wyoming and California at the extremes.

[Al Mumtahanah]

That's one of my few problems with her. Welcoming Muslims into your country -in any capacity, in any form- is generally a mistake, and this one is something that she's been forced to bullshit her way through ever since.

But saying so is not only heretic to left-liberal orthodoxy it is also raycist.

According to the prevailing views in the mainstream media.

It will, however, in the long run lead to some serious problems.

Islam allows for a critique of society from a new angle. Fatima Barkatulla talked in her show about how immodest dress is a form of sexual harassment of men by women. A lot of Europeans today don't even consider issues like sexual harassment of men.