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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:23 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:It very clearly is just an off-color joke that you've seized on to make Nova Cyberia out to be what he's not.
Maybe it's time to stop going ballistic over big heaps of nada.


As we all know, writing out, "[this community (in this case, Chapo)] needs to be fumigated (a literal synonym for gassed) tbh," with no hint of irony, no prompting, and no previous context segueing into it is totally a joke.

You're pretty bad at seeing what is and isn't a joke, all things considered.
Mostly in the self-serving way.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
As we all know, writing out, "[this community (in this case, Chapo)] needs to be fumigated (a literal synonym for gassed) tbh," with no hint of irony, no prompting, and no previous context segueing into it is totally a joke.

You're pretty bad at seeing what is and isn't a joke, all things considered.
Mostly in the self-serving way.


Nah, not really. Shockingly enough, there's a difference between a joke and "lol gas people xD".
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Crysuko
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
As we all know, writing out, "[this community (in this case, Chapo)] needs to be fumigated (a literal synonym for gassed) tbh," with no hint of irony, no prompting, and no previous context segueing into it is totally a joke.

Kind of, yeah.

/pol/ should be purged.

they should all be murdered and imprisoned for spurious reasons. but it's k BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY PRANKING LOL
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:> When one dude making a gas joke makes the thread erupt into another multi-page argument.

Absolute. Fucking. Mad. Lad.


This thread is convincing me more and more that we need to throw people who make Holocaust jokes into prison.
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Nova Cyberia
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Founded: May 06, 2019
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:24 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:You're pretty bad at seeing what is and isn't a joke, all things considered.
Mostly in the self-serving way.


Nah, not really. Shockingly enough, there's a difference between a joke and "lol gas people xD".

There is?
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:25 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Kind of, yeah.

/pol/ should be purged.

they should all be murdered and imprisoned for spurious reasons. but it's k BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY PRANKING LOL

Go ahead. I don't care lol most people here would unironically agree with you anyway.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:25 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nah, not really. Shockingly enough, there's a difference between a joke and "lol gas people xD".

There is?


Not to a Nazi like yourself, no. To almost everyone else, though? Yeah.
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:26 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:/pol/ should be purged.

they should all be murdered and imprisoned for spurious reasons. but it's k BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY PRANKING LOL

Go ahead. I don't care lol most people here would unironically agree with you anyway.

I would likely be slapped upside the head for it. but I wouldn't, because I have the sense to not advocate for death and then pretend I was just kidding.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Posts: 9552
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:26 pm

Torrocca wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:It's implied it's the subreddit he would gas, not the individuals within it. Also, I don't see how it could be described as "unironically."


It's really not. Explain how "Chapo needs to be fumigated tbh" conveys either irony or a metaphor for "ban this community" in ANY way whatsoever.

Because we were talking about banning subreddits (something we should rarely do btw), and then he made a coy, offhand remark that a subreddit should be fumigated. That sounds a lot more like "this sun should be banned" than "I want to literally exterminate people who disagree with me."
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Nova Cyberia
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:26 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:There is?


Not to a Nazi like yourself, no. To almost everyone else, though? Yeah.

And yet "almost everyone else" seems to be disagreeing with you.

Fascinating.
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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:27 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
It's really not. Explain how "Chapo needs to be fumigated tbh" conveys either irony or a metaphor for "ban this community" in ANY way whatsoever.

Because we were talking about banning subreddits (something we should rarely do btw), and then he made a coy, offhand remark that a subreddit should be fumigated. That sounds a lot more like "this sun should be banned" than "I want to literally exterminate people who disagree with me."


Look at the post he quoted when he made that post and tell me how it relates to banning subreddits, since, apparently, that's the context people are desperately clinging to to defend this shit as a metaphor for banning a subreddit.
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They call me Torra, but you can call me... anytime (☞⌐■_■)☞
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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Proctopeo
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Founded: Sep 26, 2016
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:27 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:You're pretty bad at seeing what is and isn't a joke, all things considered.
Mostly in the self-serving way.


Nah, not really. Shockingly enough, there's a difference between a joke and "lol gas people xD".

There's a difference but there's definitely strong room for crossover.
Said reply was pretty obviously in the crossover to anyone with the capacity to understand humor.
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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:27 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Not to a Nazi like yourself, no. To almost everyone else, though? Yeah.

And yet "almost everyone else" seems to be disagreeing with you.

Fascinating.

argumentum ad populum
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Cekoviu
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Posts: 16954
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:28 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Not to a Nazi like yourself, no. To almost everyone else, though? Yeah.

And yet "almost everyone else" seems to be disagreeing with you.

Fascinating.

Well, mostly the resident fake leftists who don't have an economic and social axis of <-8 on the compass.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:28 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nah, not really. Shockingly enough, there's a difference between a joke and "lol gas people xD".

There's a difference but there's definitely strong room for crossover.
Said reply was pretty obviously in the crossover to anyone with the capacity to understand humor.


Nah, it really wasn't, but you do you in supporting the ol' "lol gassing people is le funni xD" schtick.
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They call me Torra, but you can call me... anytime (☞⌐■_■)☞
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:29 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:It's was different in my high school. It's hard to tell which one of us is more representative. The high school I went to was in the suburbs of an Australian city, in a nominally LNP district. Students rarely discussed what ideologies they subscribed to, but from offhand comments, the average seemed to be around centre-left.

Also, this is a nitpick pet peeve of mine, but right-libertarianism is a form of liberalism.

CM is a Murican and means social liberalism by that, not just general liberalism.

I know, but I think it's important to not conflate the two.
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Yegla Islands
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Founded: Oct 19, 2016
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Postby Yegla Islands » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:29 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:And yet "almost everyone else" seems to be disagreeing with you.

Fascinating.

argumentum ad populum


I mean, this entire argument has consisted of a string of random ad hominems from both sides. It's a nice change of pace, at least.
     

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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:29 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:There's a difference but there's definitely strong room for crossover.
Said reply was pretty obviously in the crossover to anyone with the capacity to understand humor.


Nah, it really wasn't, but you do you in supporting the ol' "lol gassing people is le funni xD" schtick.

Hey, it's of the same breed as those "lol GULAG comrades!! xd" jokes that you seem to be so fond of.
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Torrocca
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:30 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Nah, it really wasn't, but you do you in supporting the ol' "lol gassing people is le funni xD" schtick.

Hey, it's of the same breed as those "lol GULAG comrades!! xd" jokes that you seem to be so fond of.


Ah, I see you're sticking to your one-trick bit of acting like I'm a Stalinist. Amazing.
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They call me Torra, but you can call me... anytime (☞⌐■_■)☞
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:30 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:It's was different in my high school. It's hard to tell which one of us is more representative. The high school I went to was in the suburbs of an Australian city, in a nominally LNP district. Students rarely discussed what ideologies they subscribed to, but from offhand comments, the average seemed to be around centre-left.

Also, this is a nitpick pet peeve of mine, but right-libertarianism is a form of liberalism.

I wouldn't argue as a matter of greater ideological groupings, but in terms of casual political parlance, the two are separate.
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Proctopeo
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Hey, it's of the same breed as those "lol GULAG comrades!! xd" jokes that you seem to be so fond of.


Ah, I see you're sticking to your one-trick bit of acting like I'm a Stalinist. Amazing.

You have made those jokes, don't deflect.
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Yegla Islands
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Founded: Oct 19, 2016
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Postby Yegla Islands » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:Ah, I see you're sticking to your one-trick bit of acting like I'm a Stalinist. Amazing.


As opposed to your vastly superior one-trick bit of acting like NC is a Nazi. Amazing-er.
     

Dictator-backed dedication to absolute civil freedoms, ultrabureaucratic pseudo-socialism and heavily-armed neutrality.
Fueled by PMT*/FanT nanopunk schizotech, eldritch red tape and snazzy neo-cold war aesthetics on a broken continent.


✯ Factbooks are currently in the middle of a Big™ Rewrite™, almost everything's out of date and ugly. Don't read them. ✯
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*Definitions of "Post", "Modern" and "Technology" may vary

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Rostavykhan
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rostavykhan » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:31 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:/pol/ should be purged.

they should all be murdered and imprisoned for spurious reasons. but it's k BECAUSE I'M TOTALLY PRANKING LOL

Go ahead. I don't care lol most people here would unironically agree with you anyway.


/pol/acks go home.

This is /bant/ territory now.
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Yegla Islands
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Founded: Oct 19, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Yegla Islands » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:32 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Go ahead. I don't care lol most people here would unironically agree with you anyway.


/pol/acks go home.

This is /bant/ territory now.


/k/ommandos approach rapidly
     

Dictator-backed dedication to absolute civil freedoms, ultrabureaucratic pseudo-socialism and heavily-armed neutrality.
Fueled by PMT*/FanT nanopunk schizotech, eldritch red tape and snazzy neo-cold war aesthetics on a broken continent.


✯ Factbooks are currently in the middle of a Big™ Rewrite™, almost everything's out of date and ugly. Don't read them. ✯
This nation uses NS stats. Sort of. In a general kind of way.
*Definitions of "Post", "Modern" and "Technology" may vary

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Crysuko
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Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Crysuko » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:32 pm

Yegla Islands wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Ah, I see you're sticking to your one-trick bit of acting like I'm a Stalinist. Amazing.


As opposed to your vastly superior one-trick bit of acting like NC is a Nazi. Amazing-er.

he is, and is pretending is doesn't matter. it does, and I will not stop hammering it.
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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