Liriena wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:The entire debate is dumb and hinges on some pretty dodgy morality on the part of those criticizing loli.
Firstly you've got the fact that it's fictional and nobody is being harmed.
Secondly you've got the fact that, as has already been noted, often the character is not a child.
And a bunch of other stuff.
The problem with pedophilia is the disparity in the mind. Which is more objectionable, an 8 year old magicked into a 20 year olds body and then getting fucked, or a 20 year old into a 8 year olds body? If you answered the second one, there is something wrong with you, but that appears to be the ethical framework being utilized here. I.E, the objection is based around it being physically unattractive and it's bad if you find it physically attractive.
No. That's not the problem. It's not even A Problem. It's certainly not helpful to the discussion either, and is out of step with our other understanding of sex, sexuality, and consent. Basically all the complaints revolve around having certain prefernces being "Immoral.".
A feeling cannot be immoral.
Okay, so you find it gross. Get a grip? That's literally the same ethical framework people use to shut down gay sex on tv and so on. You should not be attacking people for their sexuality and making them feel bad for it, that's bad behavior.
You may as well be wailing about how people who legit masturbate to two girls one cup are ethically repugnant and them pretending its about public health concerns to cover up what you're actually doing.
Guess what. This is also why being a Furry is okay, and fucking animals isn't. I'd expect you to know that Liriena, but I guess not.
Let's say it's loli. It's even child loli. The anime boobs and all. The most extreme, explicit case you can think of.
It's still not a problem, because there is no actual victim here.
You do have a point on the fact that, at least in principle, attraction to lolis (or shotas) is a victimless crime that's not even a crime in the first place and, yeah, innermost feelings, attractions, aren't immoral.
That said... there is an inherent silliness to the "protecc muh infantile anime waifu" brand of anti-SJWism that's worth mocking. It's dorky as fuck, specially when framed in terms of "I'm gonna cheer for homophobic censorship because it makes 'SJWs' mad and they allegedly took my video game lolis away".
If you're arguing about anime waifus in general, you're being dorky too. Everyone involved in this discussion is a dork. If you're mad about people fapping over anime waifus because they're not the right type of waifu, that is being a dork of a whole other level compared to just fapping over an anime waifu and wanting people to mind their own business.
SJWs have no business mocking anybody, it's merely a bullying tactic they use to make people feel bad about themselves and to shut down dissent, same as they do on practically all other topics.
Mate.
At this point, the SJWs are clearly the major threat to society. I can bet you Poles clapped when they saw Soviet tanks on the horizon in 44 and 45.