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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
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18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
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25%
 
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 22, 2019 9:19 am

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Ostroeuropa wrote:Dutch minister for migration has resigned following it emerging that he covered up the extent of rapes and murders committed by migrants, sweeping those crimes under "Other" in his report on migrant crime.

Not very surprising, I must admit. Neither the "rape" part, nor the "hiding" part.


It's really too memetic to be true. My dutch friendos will be very upset.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed May 22, 2019 9:21 am

Nakena wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Not very surprising, I must admit. Neither the "rape" part, nor the "hiding" part.


It's really too memetic to be true. My dutch friendos will be very upset.

At this point, Politics is just a continued meme, I must admit.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Wed May 22, 2019 9:25 am

Nakena wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Not very surprising, I must admit. Neither the "rape" part, nor the "hiding" part.


It's really too memetic to be true. My dutch friendos will be very upset.


"But muh woit jeanocide!"
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 22, 2019 9:43 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
It's really too memetic to be true. My dutch friendos will be very upset.


"But muh woit jeanocide!"


Whats amazing that former liberals, once they are getting against the system, are much more filled with rage an anger than those amongst us who had beforehand some kind of distance towards their former beliefs and worldview.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed May 22, 2019 9:48 am

Nakena wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
"But muh woit jeanocide!"


Whats amazing that former liberals, once they are getting against the system, are much more filled with rage an anger than those amongst us who had beforehand some kind of distance towards their former beliefs and worldview.

This is what “To anger a liberal, tell him the truth” meant all along!
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 22, 2019 9:55 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Whats amazing that former liberals, once they are getting against the system, are much more filled with rage an anger than those amongst us who had beforehand some kind of distance towards their former beliefs and worldview.

This is what “To anger a liberal, tell him the truth” meant all along!


Lets say one got particulary mad and upset over the terrorist attacks against Charlie Hebdo and later against the Belgium Brussels airport. Their anger and rage was very real, and also understandable. But perhaps the big difference is that I know we're in a war and ongoing crisis while for them it is all the worse, as it is hurtful strikes into the bubble they have created around themself.

Thus their reactions were much more angry and emotional. If those people ever start changing their allgiance out of those reactions then things will get nasty.

And I say that as someone who's - for liberals at least - far out there on the right.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 22, 2019 9:58 am

Nakena wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:This is what “To anger a liberal, tell him the truth” meant all along!


Lets say one got particulary mad and upset over the terrorist attacks against Charlie Hebdo and later against the Belgium Brussels airport. Their anger and rage was very real, and also understandable. But perhaps the big difference is that I know we're in a war and ongoing crisis while for them it is all the worse, as it is hurtful strikes into the bubble they have created around themself.

Thus their reactions were much more angry and emotional. If those people ever start changing their allgiance out of those reactions then things will get nasty.

And I say that as someone who's - for liberals anyways - far out there on the right.

Referring to the tensions and attacks between immigrants and natural-born citizens in Europe as a "war" only serves to alienate the other side further. That rhetoric is exactly how terrorists are made.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 22, 2019 10:11 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Lets say one got particulary mad and upset over the terrorist attacks against Charlie Hebdo and later against the Belgium Brussels airport. Their anger and rage was very real, and also understandable. But perhaps the big difference is that I know we're in a war and ongoing crisis while for them it is all the worse, as it is hurtful strikes into the bubble they have created around themself.

Thus their reactions were much more angry and emotional. If those people ever start changing their allgiance out of those reactions then things will get nasty.

And I say that as someone who's - for liberals anyways - far out there on the right.

Referring to the tensions and attacks between immigrants and natural-born citizens in Europe as a "war" only serves to alienate the other side further. That rhetoric is exactly how terrorists are made.


Those attacks were carried out by ISIS, respectively Al-Qaida.

But my upset liberal friends did draw unfortunate conclusions, they were quick to draw a generalized connection to "Muslims" immigrants however indirectly. Which is something I wouldn, because the vast majority of people whom I know (or suspect) to be muslim, if on paper only, are an average, diverse, everyday hard working people.

They do not deserve the blame and they run as everyone else if not much more danger to become caught in the crossfire of the ongoing conflict.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed May 22, 2019 10:11 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Lets say one got particulary mad and upset over the terrorist attacks against Charlie Hebdo and later against the Belgium Brussels airport. Their anger and rage was very real, and also understandable. But perhaps the big difference is that I know we're in a war and ongoing crisis while for them it is all the worse, as it is hurtful strikes into the bubble they have created around themself.

Thus their reactions were much more angry and emotional. If those people ever start changing their allgiance out of those reactions then things will get nasty.

And I say that as someone who's - for liberals anyways - far out there on the right.

Referring to the tensions and attacks between immigrants and natural-born citizens in Europe as a "war" only serves to alienate the other side further. That rhetoric is exactly how terrorists are made.


When a state uses violence to protect violence of a migratory group that is recognized as an action undertaken in war. It is how the US and Australia expanded and genocided the natives. Turning a blind eye when white settlers shot natives, but flipping out and raving about "The rule of law" when a native retaliated.

This is arguably akin to how progressive and neoliberal governments are treating the white populace vis migrant crime, including encouraging more arriving and so on. It is less widespread and less systemic, but it is there. The ideological root of the behavior is different, but the mechanics and impact are the same.

He called it a war. That's apt. Not all wars are of the same intensity, some are limited. In some cases, this has resulted in whites leaving an area, such as inner london, in part due to increased violence, crime, and hostility from groups the government refuses to police for fear of being "racist" towards them.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 22, 2019 10:19 am

Nakena wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Referring to the tensions and attacks between immigrants and natural-born citizens in Europe as a "war" only serves to alienate the other side further. That rhetoric is exactly how terrorists are made.


Those attacks were carried out by ISIS, respectively Al-Qaida.

But my upset liberal friends did draw exact the same conclusion you did unintentionally, they were quick to draw a generalized connection to "Muslims" immigrants however indirectly. Which is something I wouldn, because the vast majority of people whom I know (or suspect) to be muslim, if on paper only, are an average, diverse, everyday hard working people.

They do not deserve the blame and they run as everyone else if not much more danger to become caught in the crossfire of the ongoing conflict.

The interesting thing about this post is that I never said anything about Islam, suggesting that you are perhaps projecting a bit here.
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Postby Nakena » Wed May 22, 2019 10:39 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Those attacks were carried out by ISIS, respectively Al-Qaida.

But my upset liberal friends did draw exact the same conclusion you did unintentionally, they were quick to draw a generalized connection to "Muslims" immigrants however indirectly. Which is something I wouldn, because the vast majority of people whom I know (or suspect) to be muslim, if on paper only, are an average, diverse, everyday hard working people.

They do not deserve the blame and they run as everyone else if not much more danger to become caught in the crossfire of the ongoing conflict.

The interesting thing about this post is that I never said anything about Islam, suggesting that you are perhaps projecting a bit here.


Sorry I think we then did misread each other. Ill take the statement back.
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Postby Liriena » Wed May 22, 2019 7:15 pm

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Postby Proctopeo » Wed May 22, 2019 8:01 pm


After doing a thorough review of the situation, this seems to be "fiction is reality and anime boobs is pedophilia" nonsense

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Postby Rostavykhan » Wed May 22, 2019 8:10 pm

Nakena wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
"But muh woit jeanocide!"


Whats amazing that former liberals, once they are getting against the system, are much more filled with rage an anger than those amongst us who had beforehand some kind of distance towards their former beliefs and worldview.


I forget who was behind the quote, that you'll not find a more outspoken critic of a system than those who supported it and recently turned against it.



> Pick up a football.

Am I detecting toxic masculinity and enforcement of traditional gender roles? Shocking.
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Postby Liriena » Wed May 22, 2019 8:32 pm

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> Pick up a football.

Am I detecting toxic masculinity and enforcement of traditional gender roles? Shocking.

Turns out that jocks were the real comrades all along and nerds are first in line for the gulags. :P
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed May 22, 2019 8:34 pm

Liriena wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:
> Pick up a football.

Am I detecting toxic masculinity and enforcement of traditional gender roles? Shocking.

Turns out that jocks were the real comrades all along and nerds are first in line for the gulags. :P

That's how it's always been though.
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Postby Liriena » Wed May 22, 2019 8:34 pm

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After doing a thorough review of the situation, this seems to be "fiction is reality and anime boobs is pedophilia" nonsense

Look, m'dude, just because your loli is technically a thousand-year-old demon doesn't mean we can let her body pillow sign a marriage certificate without parental consent. :P
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Postby Torrocca » Wed May 22, 2019 8:51 pm

Liriena wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:After doing a thorough review of the situation, this seems to be "fiction is reality and anime boobs is pedophilia" nonsense

Look, m'dude, just because your loli is technically a thousand-year-old demon doesn't mean we can let her body pillow sign a marriage certificate without parental consent. :P


"But, your honor! She's a ten-thousand-year-old dragon girl! She just chooses to look, think, act, and talk like a nine-year-old! It's not pedophilia! It's art!"
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu May 23, 2019 5:06 am

Liriena wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:
> Pick up a football.

Am I detecting toxic masculinity and enforcement of traditional gender roles? Shocking.

Turns out that jocks were the real comrades all along and nerds are first in line for the gulags. :P

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu May 23, 2019 5:27 am

The entire debate is dumb and hinges on some pretty dodgy morality on the part of those criticizing loli.

Firstly you've got the fact that it's fictional and nobody is being harmed.
Secondly you've got the fact that, as has already been noted, often the character is not a child.

And a bunch of other stuff.

The problem with pedophilia is the disparity in the mind. Which is more objectionable, an 8 year old magicked into a 20 year olds body and then getting fucked, or a 20 year old into a 8 year olds body? If you answered the second one, there is something wrong with you, but that appears to be the ethical framework being utilized here. I.E, the objection is based around it being physically unattractive and it's bad if you find it physically attractive.

No. That's not the problem. It's not even A Problem. It's certainly not helpful to the discussion either, and is out of step with our other understanding of sex, sexuality, and consent. Basically all the complaints revolve around having certain prefernces being "Immoral.".

A feeling cannot be immoral.

Okay, so you find it gross. Get a grip? That's literally the same ethical framework people use to shut down gay sex on tv and so on. You should not be attacking people for their sexuality and making them feel bad for it, that's bad behavior.

You may as well be wailing about how people who legit masturbate to two girls one cup are ethically repugnant and them pretending its about public health concerns to cover up what you're actually doing.

Guess what. This is also why being a Furry is okay, and fucking animals isn't. I'd expect you to know that Liriena, but I guess not.

Let's say it's loli. It's even child loli. The anime boobs and all. The most extreme, explicit case you can think of.
It's still not a problem, because there is no actual victim here.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu May 23, 2019 5:32 am

Rostavykhan wrote:Am I detecting toxic masculinity and enforcement of traditional gender roles? Shocking.


Did you notice the same crowd who used to virgin shame males for going against feminist nonsense are now dogwhistling virgin shaming by calling them "Incels" even when that isn't appropriate? I sure did.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Thu May 23, 2019 5:34 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:The entire debate is dumb and hinges on some pretty dodgy morality on the part of those criticizing loli.

Firstly you've got the fact that it's fictional and nobody is being harmed.
Secondly you've got the fact that, as has already been noted, often the character is not a child.

And a bunch of other stuff.

The problem with pedophilia is the disparity in the mind. Which is more objectionable, an 8 year old magicked into a 20 year olds body and then getting fucked, or a 20 year old into a 8 year olds body? If you answered the second one, there is something wrong with you, but that appears to be the ethical framework being utilized here. I.E, the objection is based around it being physically unattractive and it's bad if you find it physically attractive.

No. That's not the problem. It's not even A Problem. It's certainly not helpful to the discussion either, and is out of step with our other understanding of sex, sexuality, and consent. Basically all the complaints revolve around having certain prefernces being "Immoral.".

A feeling cannot be immoral.

Okay, so you find it gross. Get a grip? That's literally the same ethical framework people use to shut down gay sex on tv and so on. You should not be attacking people for their sexuality and making them feel bad for it, that's bad behavior.

You may as well be wailing about how people who legit masturbate to two girls one cup are ethically repugnant and them pretending its about public health concerns to cover up what you're actually doing.

Guess what. This is also why being a Furry is okay, and fucking animals isn't. I'd expect you to know that Liriena, but I guess not.

Let's say it's loli. It's even child loli. The anime boobs and all. The most extreme, explicit case you can think of.
It's still not a problem, because there is no actual victim here.

Those are good points, but if you are attracted to looking at "lolis" specifically there's no getting around the fact that that is pretty pedophilic.
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Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, Non-Market-Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Macs, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Economic: 0.5
Social: -8
I'm an 18 year old Australian who tries to think about things but fails, as we all do. I'll regret this in 2 years tops.

I think I have gender dysphoria so I'd prefer you use she/her pronouns on me. If not, he/him'll do.

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Postby Crysuko » Thu May 23, 2019 5:35 am

Rostavykhan wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Whats amazing that former liberals, once they are getting against the system, are much more filled with rage an anger than those amongst us who had beforehand some kind of distance towards their former beliefs and worldview.


I forget who was behind the quote, that you'll not find a more outspoken critic of a system than those who supported it and recently turned against it.



> Pick up a football.

Am I detecting toxic masculinity and enforcement of traditional gender roles? Shocking.

have any more gender shaming buzzwords?
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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