LWDT 7: The Earth and Heavens Tremble.

[Yusseria]

FREE SPEECH BAD

Rather hilarious coming from the guy who calls himself a National Syndicalist (the ideological predecessors of Fascism who explicitly called for a crackdown on all forms of individualism and freedom).

I gotta say I've pretty much gotten numb to being called a fascist and a Nazi. Doesn't really even phase me anymore.

It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce it. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.

[New haven america]

The question is, can Centrists meme?

Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

[Crysuko]

At this point in time, the salute is almost exclusively associated with the Nazis. Nice try, though.

Because they're totally comparable.

I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?

You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".

oh, so we can have all the trappings of nazism but it's k because wE'rE bEiNg tOtAlLy iRoNiC

[Liriena]

"The right can't meme" they say as they regurgitate memes created by rightists.

nobody said that

anywhere

ever.

But also, the right seriously can't meme.

[Pasong Tirad]

The question is, can Centrists meme?

Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

You could say there are two sides to that issue.

[Liriena]

The question is, can Centrists meme?

Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

I'm gonna go with "nope". Not if, by centrists, we mean establishment Democrats trying to make Beto or Kamala look cool.

[Yusseria]

nobody said that

anywhere

ever.

But also, the right seriously can't meme.

If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm sorry I have the radical idea that free speech should apply to asswipes who make stupid jokes.

I'm sorry I have the radical idea that mass murder isn't fucking funny. Although I don't know what else I should expect from the guy who literally said, "Pinochet did nothing wrong!"

Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

[Byzconia]

Rather hilarious coming from the guy who calls himself a National Syndicalist (the ideological predecessors of Fascism who explicitly called for a crackdown on all forms of individualism and freedom).

I gotta say I've pretty much gotten numb to being called a fascist and a Nazi. Doesn't really even phase me anymore.

It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.

Right-wingers: "Facts don't care about your feelings!"

Also Right-wingers: "You know, I feel really insulted by you pointing out those facts about my self-professed ideology."

Literally zero of what you said is relevant. National Syndicalism is the ideological precursor of Fascism, the fact you don't like that doesn't make it not true.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'm sorry that I have the radical idea that rightists should be silenced, joking or otherwise

If anything, it would probably be better to silence the far-left, Nazis included. :^) But in all seriousness, I do thing it would be a good idea to bring back laws against blasphemy and lèse majesté.

I say: If a monarch is triggered by what I say, then he or she should screw off.

[Yusseria]

Some say they can, some say they can't, really it depends on the person.

I'm gonna go with "nope". Not if, by centrists, we mean establishment Democrats trying to make Beto or Kamala look cool.

It's always funny to remember that Beto is an Irishman by the name of Robert Francis O'Rourke who only calls himself Beto to appeal to Hispanics.

[Liriena]

"Perfectly balanced, as all things should be." - Thanos da Supa-Centrist

Wise words from a wise man.

TBH, the best thing about Infinity War is that we now have someone to hyperbolically compare centrists to.

Some people want to do omnicide. Some people say omnicide is bad thing. One should avoid extremes at all times, because horseshoe theory, so how about we compromise and only do half an omnicide?

[Crysuko]

I'm sorry I have the radical idea that mass murder isn't fucking funny. Although I don't know what else I should expect from the guy who literally said, "Pinochet did nothing wrong!"

Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

[Yusseria]

I gotta say I've pretty much gotten numb to being called a fascist and a Nazi. Doesn't really even phase me anymore.

It's almost like when someone has a really weird name and people constantly mispronounce. You just stop caring and tune out the noise.

Right-wingers: "Facts don't care about your feelings!"

Also Right-wingers: "You know, I feel really insulted by you pointing out those facts about my self-professed ideology."

Literally zero of what you said is relevant. National Syndicalism is the ideological precursor of Fascism, the fact you don't like that doesn't make it not true.

I don't really care dude lmao. I don't take it to the lengths of fascism.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

He broke the law and he got punished for what he did. Why is this such a big deal anyway?

The big deal is that it's a horrible law, and Dankula did nothing that ought to be illegal.

[Uiiop]

At this point in time, the salute is almost exclusively associated with the Nazis. Nice try, though.

Because they're totally comparable.

I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?

You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".

Making a joke involving Nazism doesn't inherently mean it makes nazism the butt of a joke.
"I made a dog do a bad thing. Umad." regradless of his right to make it doesn't quite the same punch as "Nazism will come back again under a wimpy flimsy disguise." Does it?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?

You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".

oh, so we can have all the trappings of nazism but it's k because wE'rE bEiNg tOtAlLy iRoNiC

What trappings of Nazism?

[Liriena]

But also, the right seriously can't meme.

If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I wouldn't consider teaching your dog how to nazi salute be anything horrible, but it's a little messed up tho. Also, the dude's intention was just to tease his girlfriend iirc, not cause a whole ruckus.

[Byzconia]

I'm sorry I have the radical idea that mass murder isn't fucking funny. Although I don't know what else I should expect from the guy who literally said, "Pinochet did nothing wrong!"

Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

Why, hello, Mr. Strawman, fancy seeing you here! (Also, under no definition of the phrase does a liberal socialist qualify as "far-left.")

[Yusseria]

If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

When you try and use our own memes against us, yes. Honestly, you just end up proving how funny they are, tbh.

[First American Empire]

The only good first post ever.

Anyway, circling back to "brocialist", because I have nothing better to do right now and I feel like being a ponderous oaf, I almost felt like equating the term with "TERF" in terms of how accurate its definition as a "slur" is... but then it came to me that that's not fair.

I'd say "brocialist" is kinda stuck in the grey area between "overused slur sometimes hurled in one form of other at anyone to the left of Clinton in bad faith" and "useful shorthand for identifying an actual problem in many left-wing circles". I don't think it's unfair to say that some left-wing circles do suffer from having a very... umm... monolithic demographic and, thus, a very limited perspective on social and cultural that feeds on economic reductionism, which in turns justifies that limited perspective. No joke, I actually got a couple not-at-all-mad DMs from one on Reddit a couple days back, and in true brocialist fashion, they combined their whining about "idpol" with ableist slurs and tinges of homophobia.

I twitch whenever I hear 'brocialist' because it gives me flashbacks to the Dem primary in 2015/16.

We were literally supporting the more radical candidate in regards to undertaking action regarding race and gender.

[screaming externally]

I supported Sanders in 2016 too, but there were definitely some awful people who also happened to support him. They didn't make up a majority of Sanders supporters, and Sanders himself wasn't one of them, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a problem.

(I'm probably going to vote for Warren in 2020 though.)

[Liriena]

If I was more petty I'd start keeping track of each time you regurgitate a right-wing meme.

By "regurgitate" you mean when I point out that right-wing "memes" like the NPC thing are huge self-owns that prove the exact opposite point they were created to make?

"The left are all like pre-programmed video game characters who collectively say the same thing over and over and have no independent thought... and to prove it, we're going to collectively adopt and repeat this three-letter insult over and over"

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Let us abolish all jokes. The Far-Left has decreed it!

Why, hello, Mr. Strawman, fancy seeing you here! (Also, under no definition of the phrase does a liberal socialist qualify as "far-left.")

If you think Dankula ought to be charged with anything, you're not far-left, you're far-gone.

[Crysuko]

I wouldn't consider teaching your dog how to nazi salute be anything horrible, but it's a little messed up tho. Also, the dude's intention was just to tease his girlfriend iirc, not cause a whole ruckus.

then why put it up on youtube, he was stirring shit and got upset when it blew up in his face.