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by Agarntrop » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:22 pm
by Auze » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:24 pm
by New haven america » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:26 pm
by Auze » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:29 pm
Sadakien wrote:Page wrote:In principle, I have no problem with polyamorous relationships and marriage, as consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want. Polyamory isn't for everyone, but there are many healthy and loving relationships with more than two partners.
That said, I oppose polygamy as it is usually practiced, especially religious polygamy, because rather than being equal polyamory, it is most often situation in which two or more women are subjugated by one man.
Pretty much this
I identify as polyamorous, but there's a big difference between that and the kind of polygyny that e.g. mormons often practice
by The Federal District of Vice Santos » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:34 pm
The New California Republic wrote:The Federal District of Vice Santos wrote:Polygamy is ok in theory, regardless if it is one man and many women, or one woman and many men, or many men and many women. Polygamy in practice is another matter.
So...what do you view as the differences between theory and practice?
by New haven america » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:35 pm
The Federal District of Vice Santos wrote:The New California Republic wrote:So...what do you view as the differences between theory and practice?
If there was mutual consent and everyone in that relationship was treated fairly, then there’s nothing wrong with it. However, wealth will always be a major factor in polygamous relationships involving 1 man/women with many women/men since it’s a major advantage over those with no wealth. The “slave wife” concept isn’t good either. Basically, it all boils down to equal opportunity and only group marriage seems like would be only "fair" type of polygamy. "Fair" is only in quotations because I don't know if there is a limit on how many spouses everyone in such a relationship is allowed to have or if it doesn't matter, only mutual consent does.
by Abarri » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:46 pm
by Agarntrop » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:08 pm
Abarri wrote:The libertarian side of me says no, polygamy is not inherently wrong. As long as it's consensual and legal a human can have multiple marriages.
Yay variety in society.
by The New California Republic » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:09 pm
by United Muscovite Nations » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:13 pm
by Kernen » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:42 pm
New haven america wrote:The Federal District of Vice Santos wrote:
If there was mutual consent and everyone in that relationship was treated fairly, then there’s nothing wrong with it. However, wealth will always be a major factor in polygamous relationships involving 1 man/women with many women/men since it’s a major advantage over those with no wealth. The “slave wife” concept isn’t good either. Basically, it all boils down to equal opportunity and only group marriage seems like would be only "fair" type of polygamy. "Fair" is only in quotations because I don't know if there is a limit on how many spouses everyone in such a relationship is allowed to have or if it doesn't matter, only mutual consent does.
What if they're gay or bi?
by New haven america » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:47 pm
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by Abarri » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 pm
by The Federal District of Vice Santos » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:22 pm
New haven america wrote:Kernen wrote:...should that make a difference?
Yes, because they keep saying that if it were to become legal/more normalized then males would take advantage of it by marrying and abusing multiple females and either abusing them or using them as status symbols.
But what if a lesbian wants multiple wives? Or a gay guy multiple husbands? Or a bi person wants multiple husbands and wives? Is it solely abusive towards females now?
by Thuzbekistan » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:29 pm
The Federal District of Vice Santos wrote:New haven america wrote:Yes, because they keep saying that if it were to become legal/more normalized then males would take advantage of it by marrying and abusing multiple females and either abusing them or using them as status symbols.
But what if a lesbian wants multiple wives? Or a gay guy multiple husbands? Or a bi person wants multiple husbands and wives? Is it solely abusive towards females now?
Well gay or bi would fit under group marriage. There’s no rule that those participating in a group marriage have to be straight.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:40 pm
by Major-Tom » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:20 pm
by New haven america » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:00 am
The Federal District of Vice Santos wrote:New haven america wrote:Yes, because they keep saying that if it were to become legal/more normalized then males would take advantage of it by marrying and abusing multiple females and either abusing them or using them as status symbols.
But what if a lesbian wants multiple wives? Or a gay guy multiple husbands? Or a bi person wants multiple husbands and wives? Is it solely abusive towards females now?
Well gay or bi would fit under group marriage. There’s no rule that those participating in a group marriage have to be straight.
by New Bremerton » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:13 am
by Asherahan » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:18 am
Genivaria wrote:Not necessarily, depends on how everyone is treated I suppose.
by Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:24 am
New Bremerton wrote:Depends on what form it takes. Third World, Islamic-style polygamy (i.e. men taking up to four wives as young as nine) is abhorrent, but Western-style polyamory between consenting adults of both sexes can be a wonderful thing, prudishness and traditional "nuclear families" be damned. If strong, independent women want real gender equality, this is it. The only real hurdles I can foresee are mostly legal and logistical. Imagine 50 men and 50 women, cis or trans, gay, bi or straight, all getting married in a single wedding ceremony. It would be one big happy family.
by Auze » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:00 am
by The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:07 am
by Ausinia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:36 am
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