Wargame simulations show Russia and China could defeat US

[Novus America]

I am not sure about nuclear armed tanks, but we did have nuclear weapons on jeeps, you could stick a Davy Crockett on a tank.

We did look at a nuclear powered tank.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_TV-8

If you ask me, nuclear tanks and jeeps are our best option. I mean think about it, would you fight a bastard crazy enough to put nuclear missiles on their jeeps?

Bring back the Davy Crockett
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[Confederate States of German America]

You're deluded in thinking that just because peace currently exists that it will stay that way, or that one can just simply "decide" to stay at peace with them. That's not how reality workers.

It will stay that way beacuse it's more profitable for China and Russia to stay at peace then go to war.

That and people don't want to go to war.

And that's delusion to believe that.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It will stay that way beacuse it's more profitable for China and Russia to stay at peace then go to war.

That and people don't want to go to war.

And that's delusion to believe that.

[Laughs in peacetime China GDP]

[Papalotltlan]

You're deluded in thinking that just because peace currently exists that it will stay that way, or that one can just simply "decide" to stay at peace with them. That's not how reality workers.

It will stay that way beacuse it's more profitable for China and Russia to stay at peace then go to war.

That and people don't want to go to war.

Has anyone ever told you you're too optimistic? People wanted to go to war 5 years after World War 2, and some even wanted to make it a nuclear war. The most destructive war in human history, and people wanted another 5 years later. Do you really think people won't go to war just because it's profitable not to? Hell, China is already waging a soft war on the US with their espionage and economic practices!

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It will stay that way beacuse it's more profitable for China and Russia to stay at peace then go to war.

That and people don't want to go to war.

Has anyone ever told you you're too optimistic? People wanted to go to war 5 years after World War 2, and some even wanted to make it a nuclear war. The most destructive war in human history, and people wanted another 5 years later. Do you really think people won't go to war just because it's profitable not to? Hell, China is already waging a soft war on the US with their espionage and economic practices!

And ww3 didn't happen then.

It won't happen now beacuse people don't want to die.

[Jakker]

Don't piss me off anymore. It's annoying. Next time, just say "I'd take out Maryland if I were you." and then give a reason why. You don't need to be insulting. I can get down and dirty too. So stop, before the mods come in and have to clean up the mess you're making. I'll get us both warned. I don't care. My slate is clean.

Keep it civil. Honestly.

How about everyone just takes a step back and either ignores each other or moves on. Let's not escalate things further.

[Thermodolia]

Well, to be frank: no shit.

It'd be kinda hard for a nation to defends other nations half-way across the world that border a hostile nation. All we could do is mount liberation efforts later on. Thing is, we don't have to worry about going to war with either country. Beijing is economically dependant on us and vice versa; Russia would have to fight all of NATO, and while they could knock out the Baltics with ease they'd get bogged down in Poland. Europe and Asia would be on high alert in the event of an invasion of the Republic of China or a Baltic State - with the latter being an act of war against all NATO countries, as a matter of fact.

This is all assuming no nukes are involved.

Regardless, neither scenario is even remotely likely.

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Well, to be frank: no shit.

It'd be kinda hard for a nation to defends other nations half-way across the world that border a hostile nation. All we could do is mount liberation efforts later on. Thing is, we don't have to worry about going to war with either country. Beijing is economically dependant on us and vice versa; Russia would have to fight all of NATO, and while they could knock out the Baltics with ease they'd get bogged down in Poland. Europe and Asia would be on high alert in the event of an invasion of the Republic of China or a Baltic State - with the latter being an act of war against all NATO countries, as a matter of fact.

This is all assuming no nukes are involved.

Regardless, neither scenario is even remotely likely.

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

If you can count one Lithuanian man, a literal potato, and a bottle of kvass with guns as an army, then yeah.

[Thermodolia]

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

If you can count one Lithuanian man, a literal potato, and a bottle of kvass with guns as an army, then yeah.

That’s one half of a Molotov cocktail.

[Jakker]

Is it really anymore surprising than the U.S.'s ability to conquer some shithole Central American nation?

No need to describe a nation like that. It's borderline trolling. Be mindful of that moving forward.

[NeoOasis]

If you can count one Lithuanian man, a literal potato, and a bottle of kvass with guns as an army, then yeah.

Considering the Baltic countries are among the very few countries in NATO spending the recommended amount on military? I wouldn't write em off. Finland wasn't exactly a military juggernaut, and they gave Russia serious trouble. I imagine Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are in no rush to be integrated back into Russia, and I doubt Poland would just accept another occupation.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

If you can count one Lithuanian man, a literal potato, and a bottle of kvass with guns as an army, then yeah.

That is one powerful army. I bet he could take on 500 Westerners.

[Salus Maior]

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

If bravery and determination alone could win conventional wars, Luigi Cadorno would have an actual good reputation as a military commander.

[Sneudal]

1) Yes, hardly.
2) There is. You aren't illiterate are you?

Are you or do you just have short-term memory loss?

This:

I don't see the problem, a single superpower isn't healthy.

Is all there is to your first post. There is nothing more than this. Maybe you meant to write more, but it's not there, so no - there isn't a "second part".

I don't see the problem, a single superpower isn't healthy.

a single superpower isn't healthy.

single isn't healthy.

See that second part? The part you completely ignored while rambling on about alternatives?

[Conserative Morality]

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

If bravery and determination alone could win conventional wars, Luigi Cadorno would have an actual good reputation as a military commander.

WE NEED ANOTHER BATTLE OF THE ISONZO

[Sneudal]

Well, to be frank: no shit.

It'd be kinda hard for a nation to defends other nations half-way across the world that border a hostile nation. All we could do is mount liberation efforts later on. Thing is, we don't have to worry about going to war with either country. Beijing is economically dependant on us and vice versa; Russia would have to fight all of NATO, and while they could knock out the Baltics with ease they'd get bogged down in Poland. Europe and Asia would be on high alert in the event of an invasion of the Republic of China or a Baltic State - with the latter being an act of war against all NATO countries, as a matter of fact.

This is all assuming no nukes are involved.

Regardless, neither scenario is even remotely likely.

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

Eh, i doubt they would do much.

[Papalotltlan]

If bravery and determination alone could win conventional wars, Luigi Cadorno would have an actual good reputation as a military commander.

WE NEED ANOTHER BATTLE OF THE ISONZO

CARICA!!!!

[Seangoli]

If you can count one Lithuanian man, a literal potato, and a bottle of kvass with guns as an army, then yeah.

Considering the Baltic countries are among the very few countries in NATO spending the recommended amount on military? I wouldn't write em off. Finland wasn't exactly a military juggernaut, and they gave Russia serious trouble. I imagine Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are in no rush to be integrated back into Russia, and I doubt Poland would just accept another occupation.

Finland didnas well as it did in the Winter War due almost entirely to levels of incompetence from the Russians that is difficult to comprehend. Stalin had a far grander plan than was at all necessary, and executed said plan about as bad as one could ever imagine.

[Ebengar]

I dislike the US, it's leader, it's politics, and the fact that I was born in and live in it, but I would much rather have a US-dominated world than a Communist Chinese or Russian dominated one.

[Shofercia]

They could have if the treaty of versailles wasn't written to fuck over Germany.

If Sodamm Insane wasn't a greedy invading prick they could have.

Anyway, Russia and China are not currently threatening the existence of the US and friends.

So there is absolutely no reason to go to war with them and peace is the only logical option.

Well unfortunately, that wasn't the case then, and it isn't now. China is threatening the US and her allies of Taiwan and Japan. Russia is threatening Ukraine and the Middle East. I don't want war, but peace isn't the only logical option. I just hope that it's the best option.

Executing a soft coup in Russia's backyard, and whining about Russia's reaction, is kind of lame.

It will stay that way beacuse it's more profitable for China and Russia to stay at peace then go to war.

That and people don't want to go to war.

Tell that to Ukraine.

If Russia actually went to war with Ukraine, Poroshenko would be in jail by now.

And that's delusion to believe that.

[Laughs in peacetime China GDP]

Damn.

Well, to be frank: no shit.

It'd be kinda hard for a nation to defends other nations half-way across the world that border a hostile nation. All we could do is mount liberation efforts later on. Thing is, we don't have to worry about going to war with either country. Beijing is economically dependant on us and vice versa; Russia would have to fight all of NATO, and while they could knock out the Baltics with ease they'd get bogged down in Poland. Europe and Asia would be on high alert in the event of an invasion of the Republic of China or a Baltic State - with the latter being an act of war against all NATO countries, as a matter of fact.

This is all assuming no nukes are involved.

Regardless, neither scenario is even remotely likely.

This also doesn’t account for the extreme resistance the Baltic’s would put up

They'll surrender very slowly?

If you can count one Lithuanian man, a literal potato, and a bottle of kvass with guns as an army, then yeah.

Considering the Baltic countries are among the very few countries in NATO spending the recommended amount on military? I wouldn't write em off. Finland wasn't exactly a military juggernaut, and they gave Russia serious trouble. I imagine Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are in no rush to be integrated back into Russia, and I doubt Poland would just accept another occupation.

So now Russia's also invading Poland? Was this actually in the RAND study?

[NeoOasis]

Considering the Baltic countries are among the very few countries in NATO spending the recommended amount on military? I wouldn't write em off. Finland wasn't exactly a military juggernaut, and they gave Russia serious trouble. I imagine Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are in no rush to be integrated back into Russia, and I doubt Poland would just accept another occupation.

So now Russia's also invading Poland? Was this actually in the RAND study?

Considering Poland is a Baltic state... Considering Russia would have to go through Poland if they want to invade the rest of Europe... It's been always implied that Russia was "also invading Poland." Considering Poland literally shares a border with a part of Russia... a part of Russia that is apparently becoming increasingly militarized... What do you think? Poland will be left totally alone despite hosting a US military presence?

[Sneudal]

So now Russia's also invading Poland? Was this actually in the RAND study?

Considering Poland is a Baltic state... Considering Russia would have to go through Poland if they want to invade the rest of Europe... It's been always implied that Russia was "also invading Poland." Considering Poland literally shares a border with a part of Russia... a part of Russia that is apparently becoming increasingly militarized... What do you think? Poland will be left totally alone despite hosting a US military presence?

Poland a Baltic state? The only definition in which Poland is a Baltic state would be countries that border the Baltic Sea, but i don't see anyone here including Denmark, Finland, Germany, Sweden and Russia itself either.

So no, Poland is not a Baltic state by the definition used in this case.

[Nietzschean Jihad]

For the Russian part I blame the European states for not contributing their NATO norm to the defense budget.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It will stay that way beacuse it's more profitable for China and Russia to stay at peace then go to war.

That and people don't want to go to war.

Has anyone ever told you you're too optimistic?

Been thinking about these words on my daily walk this morning.

Reflecting on that while listening to birds chirping, chatting with neighbors and, looking at the blue sky strengthened my opinion that peace is the only way.

[Free Arabian Nation]

For the Russian part I blame the European states for not contributing their NATO norm to the defense budget.

The more you think about it, the only reason why NATO countries like Germany, Sweden, etc are so nice and social-economically is because America foots the Defense Bill.

If America decided "Alright, we're gonna start spending less on the military" then the rest of NATO would have to increase their spending on their military because they can't rely on the burgers to defend their nation.

(I'm kind of talking out of my ass, pls correct me if I am wrong about literally everything)