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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:19 pm
by Sapientia Et Bellum
So like... What even is the discussion here? The OP seems super memey? Why is an OP like this even allowed on the forum?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:21 pm
by Hammer Britannia
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:So like... What even is the discussion here? The OP seems super memey? Why is an OP like this even allowed on the forum?

He (OP) is trying to usurp my throne of the biggest meme, we must band together to destroy this traitor!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:22 pm
by Sapientia Et Bellum
Hammer Britannia wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:So like... What even is the discussion here? The OP seems super memey? Why is an OP like this even allowed on the forum?

He (OP) is trying to usurp my throne of the biggest meme, we must band together to destroy this traitor!

True True

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:23 pm
by Heloin
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:So like... What even is the discussion here? The OP seems super memey? Why is an OP like this even allowed on the forum?

Well... You see... Um, I don't know.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:26 pm
by Farnhamia
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:He (OP) is trying to usurp my throne of the biggest meme, we must band together to destroy this traitor!

True True

Or, you know, you could discuss the topic, ageism, in a sensible manner. Granted the OP's a little thin and I had to yell at the Thread-Starter about the "kids need guns" crap, but the topic is worthy of discussion. One wonders which is worse, a thin OP from a new player or random people dropping in to say, "Why is an OP like this even allowed on the forum?" If you don't like the thread, don't post in it. Or you could report it in Moderation. Maybe some other Mod will overrule me.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:29 pm
by Sapientia Et Bellum
Farnhamia wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:True True

Or, you know, you could discuss the topic, ageism, in a sensible manner. Granted the OP's a little thin and I had to yell at the Thread-Starter about the "kids need guns" crap, but the topic is worthy of discussion. One wonders which is worse, a thin OP from a new player or random people dropping in to say, "Why is an OP like this even allowed on the forum?" If you don't like the thread, don't post in it. Or you could report it in Moderation. Maybe some other Mod will overrule me.

Not sure where the hostility is coming from but ok, I'm sorry it hard to discuss a topic legitimately when OP keeps spouting ridiculous things... Not to mention that fsct that no one here seems to be arguing about it but more so joking about OP... But whatever

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:33 pm
by Giovenith
Experience should be heeded, but age doesn't necessarily confer experience. Different people experience different things at different points in their lives. That said, personal experience isn't the end-all-be-all of wisdom, and should be weighed against other factors.

So no, age itself isn't important, but aspects associated with age might be.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:02 pm
by Dagnia
I'm already experiencing age discrimination for being too old for certain things in spite of being qualified for them. I've been a software developer and have years of experience, but have more and more trouble finding new jobs as I get older. The average age of a senior-level developer at some companies I've worked at is as low as 27 and I'm 35. 16 hour days plus being on call to fix issues on the weekend is considered normal and I guess they think someone my age is looking to slow down and start a family. I've also been an interviewer and people I liked for a job for their qualifications and experience get screened out by management in favor of kids fresh out of college (which would be fine if they were all junior positions, I remember starting out and dealing with the catch 22 of need a job for experience, need experience for a job) or an H-1B with qualifications from paper mills (though this is less common over the past couple years). Software has always been a young profession though, and it's probably just time for me to move into some kind of people management position.

Since a majority of the posts in this thread seem to be making fun of the OP rather than discussing the topic, did it ever occur to anyone that English may not be his first language?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:05 pm
by Soviet Technocracy2
Dagnia wrote:Since a majority of the posts in this thread seem to be making fun of the OP rather than discussing the topic, did it ever occur to anyone that English may not be his first language?

It’s my first language, I just don’t seem to be good at it in spite of being very well read.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:42 pm
by Bezkoshtovnya
Soviet Technocracy2 wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:This sounds like someone older than you wronged you in some perceived way and so to blow off steam you came here to talk about how you want to send a platoon of child soldiers to threaten them for the perceive slight. Am I not far off? far off?

You are wrong, I am just an extremist.

So your solution to ageism is to arm children so they can, what, shoot old people that they feel have wronged them in some way? How is this in any way practical or sensible?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:43 pm
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:So your solution to ageism is to arm children so they can, what, shoot old people that they feel have wronged them in some way? How is this in any way practical or sensible?

Child soldiers, child soldiers everywhere.

I approve. This post w@s made by ancaps.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:58 pm
by Soviet Technocracy2
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:So your solution to ageism is to arm children so they can, what, shoot old people that they feel have wronged them in some way? How is this in any way practical or sensible?

I don’t wrong children so I have nothing to worry about.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:02 pm
by The New California Republic
Giovenith wrote:Experience should be heeded, but age doesn't necessarily confer experience. Different people experience different things at different points in their lives. That said, personal experience isn't the end-all-be-all of wisdom, and should be weighed against other factors.

So no, age itself isn't important, but aspects associated with age might be.

Profundity of thought belongs to youth, clarity of thought to old age. —Friedrich Nietzsche.

So I guess the perfect age is middle age, if one classes balance as "perfect"...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:10 pm
by Bezkoshtovnya
Soviet Technocracy2 wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:So your solution to ageism is to arm children so they can, what, shoot old people that they feel have wronged them in some way? How is this in any way practical or sensible?

I don’t wrong children so I have nothing to worry about.

That...utterly fails to answer any part of my question. Plus how do you know? Are you presuming to speak for children and trying to say you know more about what are considered slights to them then they do? Sounds pretty ageist.

Hell, you could accidentally bump into a kid on the street and he could think your an old jerk and shoot you because, you know, children tend to not be fully developed and capable of making sensible decisions. And apparently, that is something that would help combat ageism to you.

Not to mention that is the thing about advocating a policy, you are not the only one that is going to be affected. It is generally a good rule of thumb to think outside of yourself and its effect on you when trying to suggest something that would impact millions.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:22 pm
by Heloin
The New California Republic wrote:
Giovenith wrote:Experience should be heeded, but age doesn't necessarily confer experience. Different people experience different things at different points in their lives. That said, personal experience isn't the end-all-be-all of wisdom, and should be weighed against other factors.

So no, age itself isn't important, but aspects associated with age might be.

Profundity of thought belongs to youth, clarity of thought to old age. —Friedrich Nietzsche.

So I guess the perfect age is middle age, if one classes balance as "perfect"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t28ZB1t6gg8

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:42 pm
by The New California Republic
Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Profundity of thought belongs to youth, clarity of thought to old age. —Friedrich Nietzsche.

So I guess the perfect age is middle age, if one classes balance as "perfect"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t28ZB1t6gg8

Nice use of Homer as a counterargument. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:57 am
by The World Capitalist Confederation
Farnhamia wrote:
Soviet Technocracy2 wrote:I’ve slept with people over forty, but they don’t give me grift. And kids need machine guns regardless.

Enough. Stop it with the "kids need guns now" routine. One more time and this thread will be shut down and you'll have a warning for advocating illegal activity on your record.

Is it really illegal activity if they're advocating something?

EDIT: And what even defines 'illegal activity'?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:00 am
by The New California Republic
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Enough. Stop it with the "kids need guns now" routine. One more time and this thread will be shut down and you'll have a warning for advocating illegal activity on your record.

Is it really illegal activity if they're advocating something?

EDIT: And what even defines 'illegal activity'?

The advocating illegal activity isn't itself illegal. And illegal activity is activity which is illegal. Are you intentionally splitting hairs for a reason?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:08 am
by Free Arabian Nation
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Enough. Stop it with the "kids need guns now" routine. One more time and this thread will be shut down and you'll have a warning for advocating illegal activity on your record.

Is it really illegal activity if they're advocating something?

EDIT: And what even defines 'illegal activity'?

Not a mod, but they're basically advocating something illegal in most western nations. Not illegal, per-say, but still a no-no according to the NS rules

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:16 pm
by The World Capitalist Confederation
The New California Republic wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Is it really illegal activity if they're advocating something?

EDIT: And what even defines 'illegal activity'?

The advocating illegal activity isn't itself illegal. And illegal activity is activity which is illegal. Are you intentionally splitting hairs for a reason?

Illegal where? Many places use child soldiers, and whilst, yes, the UN does complain about that, advocating the invasion of Iraq would also be considered advocating illegal activity under the same condition, as it was an illegal war. Because, well...

*Thumps a metaphorical book on the table*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:22 pm
by Heloin
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The advocating illegal activity isn't itself illegal. And illegal activity is activity which is illegal. Are you intentionally splitting hairs for a reason?

Illegal where? Many places use child soldiers, and whilst, yes, the UN does complain about that, advocating the invasion of Iraq would also be considered advocating illegal activity under the same condition, as it was an illegal war. Because, well...

*Thumps a metaphorical book on the table*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War

Plenty of places using child soldiers doesn't actually mean that child soldiers are legal in any of those places. The legality of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq doesn't have anything to do with child soldiers.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:47 pm
by The World Capitalist Confederation
Heloin wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Illegal where? Many places use child soldiers, and whilst, yes, the UN does complain about that, advocating the invasion of Iraq would also be considered advocating illegal activity under the same condition, as it was an illegal war. Because, well...

*Thumps a metaphorical book on the table*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War

Plenty of places using child soldiers doesn't actually mean that child soldiers are legal in any of those places. The legality of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq doesn't have anything to do with child soldiers.

Let me rephrase my point: Both things are illegal because of UN law, correct? And so, advocating both should be considered advocating illegal activity.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:50 pm
by Internationalist Bastard
I’ll admit my deep hatred of teenagers even though I know they aren’t all terrible

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:22 pm
by Purpelia
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I’ll admit my deep hatred of teenagers even though I know they aren’t all terrible

Clearly you have access to some deep well of esoteric knowledge us mere mortals are not privet to.