Taken literally, authoritarianism does in fact mean "the government having authority", just like liberty means "the government not having authority". They have different connotations, but the literal definition is quite clear.
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by Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:26 am
by Ifreann » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:35 am
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Ifreann wrote:Sure you do. See: almost the entire West.
The government having authority isn't authoritarianism.
Taken literally, authoritarianism does in fact mean "the government having authority", just like liberty means "the government not having authority". They have different connotations, but the literal definition is quite clear.
by Luziyca » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:44 am
by Ghost Land » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:08 pm
The Halseyist Faction wrote:I'm all for autocracy, personally.
People are stupid. [Even Autocrats.] Democracy isn't a way forward it's a way of hapazardly stumbling forward often repeatly shoving short term 'popular' solutions to long term problems.
Not to mention the insane waste of resources on trying to get elected, which often dissolves into outright lying, or at the very least misrepresentation.
All I need to figure out is a system of chosing the autocrat, and a reliable kerb on their ability to change the system.
Some ideas include autocrat by election for life - One popular referendum per lifetime of leader.
Autocrat for ten years, then nominate a successor then the previous autocrat is executed.
Autocrats whom are provided a living wage of exactly the lowest level in the country.
Autocrats whom have their powers restricted [and thus arn't really autocrats anymore] by a council of advisors drawn from the heads of various competing insitutions. [I'm not sure this one would work.]
There's various other ideas but I am flat out against democracy. The US is an excellent example of a nation who has been demonstrating 'democracy' for a long time, and as a result is destroying itself, capable of destroying the world, and contributing considerably to incidental destroying of the world through massive climate change related issues, none of which it's going to stop doing as a democracy because it wouldn't be 'popular'.
Protip - The right thing to do is rarely the popular thing to do and only making popular decisions is a surefire way to fuck up. Ask anyone whose ever run any organisation, a club, a charity, a small business, a shop, or a Corporation.
by Soviet Technocracy6 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:46 pm
by The Halseyist Faction » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:39 am
Ghost Land wrote:The Halseyist Faction wrote:I'm all for autocracy, personally.
People are stupid. [Even Autocrats.] Democracy isn't a way forward it's a way of hapazardly stumbling forward often repeatly shoving short term 'popular' solutions to long term problems.
Not to mention the insane waste of resources on trying to get elected, which often dissolves into outright lying, or at the very least misrepresentation.
All I need to figure out is a system of chosing the autocrat, and a reliable kerb on their ability to change the system.
Some ideas include autocrat by election for life - One popular referendum per lifetime of leader.
Autocrat for ten years, then nominate a successor then the previous autocrat is executed.
Autocrats whom are provided a living wage of exactly the lowest level in the country.
Autocrats whom have their powers restricted [and thus arn't really autocrats anymore] by a council of advisors drawn from the heads of various competing insitutions. [I'm not sure this one would work.]
There's various other ideas but I am flat out against democracy. The US is an excellent example of a nation who has been demonstrating 'democracy' for a long time, and as a result is destroying itself, capable of destroying the world, and contributing considerably to incidental destroying of the world through massive climate change related issues, none of which it's going to stop doing as a democracy because it wouldn't be 'popular'.
Protip - The right thing to do is rarely the popular thing to do and only making popular decisions is a surefire way to fuck up. Ask anyone whose ever run any organisation, a club, a charity, a small business, a shop, or a Corporation.
I agree with your general pro-autocracy sentiment, but don't you think executing the leader at the end of his term is at least a little extreme? It would also create a massive disincentive against people wanting to become the autocrat (unless they could just say the word and get rid of that restriction), and I could see a disgruntled guy picking his worst enemy as his successor just so he can guarantee that his worst enemy has ten years left to live, best case scenario.
by Soviet Technocracy6 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:05 am
The Halseyist Faction wrote:But for autocracy to work, the leader has to be in it for the nation, not themselves.
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