Is it racist to have ethnic/racial preferences in dating?

[Arasi Luvasa]

I think golden hair, especially really light gold hair coupled with very pale skin and bright beautiful eyes (of any cold color) is associated with a kind of purity and innocence.

At least that's how I would describe the appeal of blonde.

I just like blondes, specifically blondes with tan (read lightish coloured) or caramel skin and vibrant blue eyes. Then again the blonde thing could be related to my love of gold.

Btw is it any surprise then that the superheroes I find most attractive are Storm and Emma Frost (well also the Cuckoos, bt clones of frost so..)?


Aside, could we please burn the idea of ethno-states into nothingness. No, no ethno-states. Why is it that black-empowerment groups are starting to sound like the Apartheid National Party. Seriously, NO.

Also the institutional definition of racism formed in sociology if I remember correctly, seeing as sociology is more focused on institutional/structural dynamics, of course, it's definition would not account for how individual racism works. The institutional racism is, of course, an issue, but dealing with it will take many generations to undo.

[Hammer Britannia]

I'm a white dude who prefers brown women, so no.

X to doubt

[Yusseria]

I'm a white dude who prefers brown women, so no.

X to doubt

plz no bulli

[Dagnia]

Racism can obviously affect your dating preferences but having preferences does not make you a racist. I'm attracted mostly to other white guys in the same way I'm attracted to guys who are reasonably fit and who are within 5 years of my age. I don't hate other races any more than I hate the elderly or the obese (though I hate looking at them sometimes).

[Greed and Death]

It depends.

Find certain traits attractive or certain traits unattractive and they tend to fit in with races no.

Fetishing a race so you only date that is racist.

Determining a race is ugly so you never date them is racist.

[Correan]

It isn't racist at all. What's with people asking such stupid fucking questions?

[First American Empire]

Would you look at that, a racist statement!

"Racism is not power plus prejudice, it’s just prejudice." - WVC

It's not racist to point out that the definition accepted by most studying and fighting against it prevents POC from being racist within American society. Power is an important component of racism.

This is specifically the sociological definition of racism. Because it deals only with large-scale phenomena, sociology has some* weird technical definitions that aren't used outside the field. Sociological racism requires both power and prejudice, but the definition of racism used outside sociology only requires prejudice. Many things which would not be considered racist in a sociological context would absolutely be considered racist outside of it, even by the same person.

*The sociological definition that's most different between sociology and everywhere else is the word "meme". This time, it's so different as to be almost completely unrelated to the popular definition.

[Katganistan]

TFW when it's 2019 and the Left is supporting Ethno-States and Rightists are getting behind policies of Blanqueamiento.

Half the people yelling at her and calling her out on her bullshit are leftists.

Which implies the other half are rightists. *shrug*

[Novus America]

It depends.

Find certain traits attractive or certain traits unattractive and they tend to fit in with races no.

Fetishing a race so you only date that is racist.

Determining a race is ugly so you never date them is racist.

Pretty much this. The reason for the preference matters more than the preference.

Though I never cared that much about specific physical traits beyond not being so overweight as to be unhealthy.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'll rephrase. White people having ethnic dating preferences will cause a small group of people (who take social justice too far) to lose it. Having ethnic preferences when dating should not be considered racist in and of itself.

And some people are so triggered by people thinking their opinions are crappy that they never fail to snap about how "SJWs ruin everything".

And SJWs attempting to literally shut others down can't possibly be a cause for such hostility.

[Novus America]

Institutional racism is not the only form of racism.
Plus being “black” does not mean one has no institutional power either.

Individual black people may achieve positions of power, usually a result of tokenism, but that does not mean that the black community as a whole does not have any significant institutional power. Racist instances from individuals stems from institutional racism; the latter gives power to the former. Therefore those who lack institutional power lack the ability to commit racist acts individually.

The “black community” is not an institution or corporate entity, but certainly there are largely “black” institutions with power. But again you absolutely still can be racist without having the power to do much with it. Many of the most racists people are the least powerful, people who feel powerless often turn to racism to feel more powerful than they are.

[Katganistan]

And some people are so triggered by people thinking their opinions are crappy that they never fail to snap about how "SJWs ruin everything".

And SJWs attempting to literally shut others down can't possibly be a cause for such hostility.

SJW, SJW. Instead of harping on that overtired term, why not use "people who believe in treating everyone fairly, and call out people who want to treat groups they don't like as inherently shittier than them"?

It's always a name. SJW, Feminazi (though surprise surprise, that one's fallen by the wayside lately), cuck, snowflake, triggered.....

It's honestly laughable that in some quarters, opinions can't be discussed without the names and epithets being hurled.

[New haven america]

Don't be a race traitor. If too many blonde men are kept from pairing with blonde women, the blondes you like aren't going to be around anymore or will be in shorter supply. Maybe genetic engineering can micromanage skin color and other attributes regardless of who the parents are, but its too expensive and complicated for the majority of people. We aren't there yet.

"Dont be a race traitor" actually get over yourself.

Wait until Sai learns that every member of Hitler's Aryan experiment (Blonde hair/Blue eyed women pair with Blond haired/Blue eyed men) produced only brunettes with brown eyes.

[New haven america]

I found a Filipina woman to be physically attractive, I found her beautiful and was aroused but I refused an opportunity to have sex with her because she wasn't White, and because I wasn't Filipino like she was. Is that racist in most people's view?

Remember that I chose what was the greater good from my perspective. At worst, she might've been hurt by rejection but think of the purity of her family line that was preserved and the possible economic insecurity I spared her from.

I like to think of myself as like an Adam that said no to Eve. I won against temptation and my reward is a clear conscience. The victory is quite hollow however, for it was also a sacrifice. It was one of my only chances to have sex but I had the foresight and control to not just "go for it." I might've not derived potential enjoyment from a new experience, but I chose the path that was better in terms of long term consequences.

A. TMI bro.
B. You're an admitted racist, so yes, it is racist.

[Saiwania]

Wait until Sai learns that every member of Hitler's Aryan experiment (Blonde hair/Blue eyed women pair with Blond haired/Blue eyed men) produced only brunettes with brown eyes.

I'd call into question the accuracy of that. Obviously a Blonde couple will produce a Blonde child, unless their genetics weren't pure from the beginning and one or both lines had an ancestor who's not Blonde.

Genetic engineering would arguably be superior to natural means of determining attributes because the "way a person appears" can be micromanaged in a lab before birth while conversely, with most reproduction there is too much random chance that can happen, thus making for some very upset parents and families on occasion.

[New haven america]

Wait until Sai learns that every member of Hitler's Aryan experiment (Blonde hair/Blue eyed women pair with Blond haired/Blue eyed men) produced only brunettes with brown eyes.

Obviously a Blonde couple will produce a Blonde children

Except they didn't, they only produced brunettes with brown eyes.

Lebensborn was a complete and utter failure.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

And SJWs attempting to literally shut others down can't possibly be a cause for such hostility.

SJW, SJW. Instead of harping on that overtired term, why not use "people who believe in treating everyone fairly, and call out people who want to treat groups they don't like as inherently shittier than them"?

I'm not using that definition you have, because it is biased and a lie. I'm not going after people who are merely socially liberal. I'm going after people who heckle opposing speakers, and complain about "mansplainers" and the like. You are simply so biased on this issue that you actually think I'm fighting for suppression of minority groups.

[Oranjea]

Obviously a Blonde couple will produce a Blonde children

Except they didn't, they only produced brunettes with brown eyes.

Lebensborn was a complete and utter failure.

"Only"? I doubt that. You're telling me not a single blonde or blue eyed person was born from the program? Do you have a source?

Furthermore, the idea that the Nazis thought only blonde haired blue eyed types were "Aryan" is false. Most Germans are not blonde, and the Nazis had multiple racial classifications ("Nordic" "Alpine" "Mediterranean") for "Aryans". "Nordic" was the only group thought to be mainly blonde, and not even uniformly. I doubt that hair color was actually a requirement of the lebensborn program.

[Novus America]

I found a Filipina woman to be physically attractive, I found her beautiful and was aroused but I refused an opportunity to have sex with her because she wasn't White, and because I wasn't Filipino like she was. Is that racist in most people's view?

Remember that I chose what was the greater good from my perspective. At worst, she might've been hurt by rejection but think of the purity of her family line that was preserved and the possible economic insecurity I spared her from.

I like to think of myself as like an Adam that said no to Eve. I won against temptation and my reward is a clear conscience. The victory is quite hollow however, for it was also a sacrifice. It was one of my only chances to have sex but I had the foresight and control to not just "go for it." I might've not derived potential enjoyment from a new experience, but I chose the path that was better in terms of long term consequences.

A. TMI bro.
B. You're an admitted racist, so yes, it is racist.

I at first I was just going to reject his arguments out of fractal wrongness (not only is the overall argument wrong, every part supporting it is) and also being TMI/gross.

But actually it shows internal conflict and self doubt.
Meaning his white nationalist castle is built on sand.
There may be hope for him yet, internal conflict and doubt from your beliefs being challenged is the first step towards reassessment, and possibly reform.

[New haven america]

And SJWs attempting to literally shut others down can't possibly be a cause for such hostility.

SJW, SJW. Instead of harping on that overtired term, why not use "people who believe in treating everyone fairly, and call out people who want to treat groups they don't like as inherently shittier than them"?

That's because that's not what they want. (Before I get into this, I fully believe any argument that uses SJW in a serious sense should just be ignored)

People who are SJW's don't want everyone's lives to be easier, no, they want it to be so groups who have been wronged in the past get justice by wronging the groups they feel caused it. They don't equality and peace, they want revenge. It's like how MRA's, extreme feminists, etc... believe they're supporting a good cause, and on the surface it might look nice, but when you dig deeper into what they want then their true colors start showing.

[Free African Union]

Individual black people may achieve positions of power, usually a result of tokenism, but that does not mean that the black community as a whole does not have any significant institutional power. Racist instances from individuals stems from institutional racism; the latter gives power to the former. Therefore those who lack institutional power lack the ability to commit racist acts individually.

The “black community” is not an institution or corporate entity, but certainly there are largely “black” institutions with power. But again you absolutely still can be racist without having the power to do much with it. Many of the most racists people are the least powerful, people who feel powerless often turn to racism to feel more powerful than they are.

I would agree that working class white people have been some of the most vocal supporters of racism within the United States. That is exactly what the bourgeoisie want.

[Sovaal]

Wait until Sai learns that every member of Hitler's Aryan experiment (Blonde hair/Blue eyed women pair with Blond haired/Blue eyed men) produced only brunettes with brown eyes.

I'd call into question the accuracy of that. Obviously a Blonde couple will produce a Blonde child, unless their genetics weren't pure from the beginning and one or both lines had an ancestor who's not Blonde.

Genetic engineering would arguably be superior to natural means of determining attributes because the "way a person appears" can be micromanaged in a lab before birth while conversely, with most reproduction there is too much random chance that can happen, thus making for some very upset parents and families on occasion.

Most peoples aren't. Hell I'd call into question the very concept of "pureness".

[New haven america]

Institutional racism is not the only form of racism.
Plus being “black” does not mean one has no institutional power either.

Individual black people may achieve positions of power, usually a result of tokenism, but that does not mean that the black community as a whole does not have any significant institutional power. Racist instances from individuals stems from institutional racism; the latter gives power to the former. Therefore those who lack institutional power lack the ability to commit racist acts individually.

Bull-fucking-shit of the highest order (Well, not highest, but close to).

You're going on as if institutional racism (Prejudice+Power) is the only type that exists, when that's furthest thing from the truth, as individual racism (Prejudice) is just as powerful and prevalent within society. People who say that discrimination can't exist without power are honestly just looking for an excuse to be discriminatory and not be called on their shitty behavior.

[Free African Union]

Individual black people may achieve positions of power, usually a result of tokenism, but that does not mean that the black community as a whole does not have any significant institutional power. Racist instances from individuals stems from institutional racism; the latter gives power to the former. Therefore those who lack institutional power lack the ability to commit racist acts individually.

Bull-fucking-shit of the highest order (Well, not highest, but close to).

You're going on as if institutional racism (Prejudice+Power) is the only type that exists, when that's furthest thing from the truth, as individual racism (Prejudice) is just as powerful and prevalent within society. People who say that discrimination can't exist without power are honestly just looking for an excuse to be discriminatory and not be called on their shitty behavior.

It's not the only kind but it's the source for the other kinds. Institutional racism is the trunk while the others are branches. No trunk, no branch. POC do not have a trunk, white people do.

[New haven america]

Bull-fucking-shit of the highest order (Well, not highest, but close to).

You're going on as if institutional racism (Prejudice+Power) is the only type that exists, when that's furthest thing from the truth, as individual racism (Prejudice) is just as powerful and prevalent within society. People who say that discrimination can't exist without power are honestly just looking for an excuse to be discriminatory and not be called on their shitty behavior.

It's not the only kind but it's the source for the other kinds.

Nope.

All discrimination comes from individuals of a community that then spreads to the largest bureaucracies and organizations, not the reverse. It's a disease and every community is susceptible to it. (Hell, some of the most racist people I've known were black and Mexican)