50 Dead After New Zealand Terrorist Attack

[Costa Fierro]

Watched the Police Commissioner speak and he says that 41 of the victims were at the Deans Avenue mosque and seven at the Linwood Avenue mosque. I'm not sure if these account for the deaths of those outside of these two places.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

This is just incredible horror. Wilfully attacking a place of worship is among the lowest acts a human can perpetrate. Fuck the bastard.

I share your outrage, but I disagree that the tragedy here is the choice of venue. Murdering scores of innocents is low no matter where you do it.

No, absolutely. The choice of target isn’t the worst thing about this, but it just adds to the absolute horror.

The Police Commissioner has said that a man has been charged with murder and will appear in the Christchurch District Court tomorrow morning.

Honestly, seeing the scale of it all, I think it might also be prosecutable as a crime against humanity. It should at least be treated as a terrorist offence.

[Painisia]

I strongly condemn this act of bestiality. Thoughts and solidarity with the people of New Zealand. The most shocking detail of this gunman, is that he was inspired by one of our bastards, Anders B Breivik. It now seems that far-right terrorists have gotten out of their 4chan nests and have begun acting. I now fear that more will come....

You mean brutality, I hope....

This may not be the last time that a far-right canard emerges from his nest and unleashes hell.

[Vassenor]

Watched the Police Commissioner speak and he says that 41 of the victims were at the Deans Avenue mosque and seven at the Linwood Avenue mosque. I'm not sure if these account for the deaths of those outside of these two places.

Number 49 was a "died of wounds" and it probably hadn't been established which site they were shot at.

[Cedoria]

Yet another violent attack for the left to use as a "Ban all guns! Conservatism is Bad!" argument.... when there is a shooting, apply it liberally.... rinse and repeat... ugh

Uhm, New Zealand has strict gun laws...

Not every argument on the planet revolves around dumb US domestic politics, it may shock you to know.

[Hirota]

I vehemently refuse to watch a single second of this despicable livestream.

It's pretty graphic, not going to lie, so I'm not going to link it.

Also, there is the whole modly warning about not. So yeah, good idea not to.

[Costa Fierro]

I share your outrage, but I disagree that the tragedy here is the choice of venue. Murdering scores of innocents is low no matter where you do it.

No, absolutely. The choice of target isn’t the worst thing about this, but it just adds to the absolute horror.

The Police Commissioner has said that a man has been charged with murder and will appear in the Christchurch District Court tomorrow morning.

Honestly, seeing the scale of it all, I think it might also be prosecutable as a crime against humanity. It should at least be treated as a terrorist offence.

Police have said a man in his late 20's has been charged with murder. Undoubtedly other offences will be lumped on top of that.

[Vassenor]

Yet another violent attack for the left to use as a "Ban all guns! Conservatism is Bad!" argument.... when there is a shooting, apply it liberally.... rinse and repeat... ugh

Maybe you could try being better than the people you claim to decry and not use the deaths of almost fifty people to score political points then.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The manifesto explicitly stated one of the reasons for the attack was to further the gun debate in the US in hopes of causing civil conflict.

Dude posted on 4Chan before the attacks apparently.

Speaking of which, an oddity I noticed and got pointed out there as well: in the livestream as the shooter busts in he finds a magazine laying on the ground, literally does a double take, and then picks it up.

Alright so I went and watched it and yeah this is admittedly kinda weird. There's seemingly already one of his magazines with the writing and everything on it in the building before he first enters. I'm far from a conspiracy theorist and the video could absolutely be edited or something but that's strange.

[Costa Fierro]

Uhm, New Zealand has strict gun laws...

Not every argument on the planet revolves around dumb US domestic politics, it may shock you to know.

Couple of things.

One, New Zealand gun laws are strict compared to the United States but comparatively lax compared with countries like the UK or Australia. In fact, as recently as August last year there were talks and discussions about firearms legislation reform because police were concerned about how easy it was to obtain what they describe as a "Military Style Semi-Automatic" (MSSA).

Two, the intent of the identified shooter was to influence the firearms debate in the United States by attempting to get all firearms banned in New Zealand.

[Saskovia]

Guys please note from I know so far that: I and Radiatia are from Christchurch and this is very scary. There is a very main and addressed street in Christchurch, and it’s name is Colombo Street, being the second-longest street in town, I am scared to go down it.

[Confederate States of German America]

Dude posted on 4Chan before the attacks apparently.

Speaking of which, an oddity I noticed and got pointed out there as well: in the livestream as the shooter busts in he finds a magazine laying on the ground, literally does a double take, and then picks it up.

Alright so I went and watched it and yeah this is admittedly kinda weird. There's seemingly already one of his magazines with the writing and everything on it in the building before he first enters. I'm far from a conspiracy theorist and the video could absolutely be edited or something but that's strange.

Checked another full video to make sure it was accurate and yeah, it's really fucking odd. Even he stops and does a double take at it.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Alright so I went and watched it and yeah this is admittedly kinda weird. There's seemingly already one of his magazines with the writing and everything on it in the building before he first enters. I'm far from a conspiracy theorist and the video could absolutely be edited or something but that's strange.

Checked another full video to make sure it was accurate and yeah, it's really fucking odd. Even he stops and does a double take at it.

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

[Confederate States of German America]

Checked another full video to make sure it was accurate and yeah, it's really fucking odd. Even he stops and does a double take at it.

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

Yes, which is what is really confusing us.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

Yes, which is what is really confusing us.

The likeliest explanation would be that it inadvertently dropped from his kit, but it depends on the angles and the positions.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Checked another full video to make sure it was accurate and yeah, it's really fucking odd. Even he stops and does a double take at it.

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

Yeah. I'll walk you through it so you don't have to go watch the video. He shoots the people at the door with a shotgun, discards it once it's empty and switches to a rifle and fires off a few shots and as he's moving towards the main room he glances down to his left as he's walking and looks right at an AR magazine that's an easy 15 feet away from the door where he entered and he has yet to eject anything from the rifle and you can see it when he's a solid 5 feet away from it so it didn't fall out of his vest either. It's even loaded because he runs to it, picks it up and uses it two minutes later.

Certainly strange and I can see why /pol/ is going nuts with it.

[Confederate States of German America]

Yes, which is what is really confusing us.

The likeliest explanation would be that it inadvertently dropped from his kit, but it depends on the angles and the positions.

It was literally on the floor ahead of him during his initial entrance, which is bizarre. Like I said I'm not going to link the video in this thread, but I literally have a copy if you want me to TG it to you.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

Yeah. I'll walk you through it so you don't have to go watch the video. He shoots the people at the door with a shotgun, discards it once it's empty and switches to a rifle and fires off a few shots and as he's moving towards the main room he glances down to his left as he's walking and looks right at an AR magazine that's an easy 15 feet away from the door where he entered and he has yet to eject anything from the rifle and you can see it when he's a solid 5 feet away from it so it didn't fall out of his vest either. It's even loaded because he runs to it, picks it up and uses it two minutes later.

Certainly strange and I can see why /pol/ is going nuts with it.

...Potential proof of acolytes aiding him?

[Shrillland]

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

Yeah. I'll walk you through it so you don't have to go watch the video. He shoots the people at the door with a shotgun, discards it once it's empty and switches to a rifle and fires off a few shots and as he's moving towards the main room he glances down to his left as he's walking and looks right at an AR magazine that's an easy 15 feet away from the door where he entered and he has yet to eject anything from the rifle and you can see it when he's a solid 5 feet away from it so it didn't fall out of his vest either. It's even loaded because he runs to it, picks it up and uses it two minutes later.

Certainly strange and I can see why /pol/ is going nuts with it.

With some luck, we'll know more in some months when the trial finally takes place.

[Confederate States of German America]

...Wait, so he enters the building and there’s already a magazine on the floor?

Yeah. I'll walk you through it so you don't have to go watch the video. He shoots the people at the door with a shotgun, discards it once it's empty and switches to a rifle and fires off a few shots and as he's moving towards the main room he glances down to his left as he's walking and looks right at an AR magazine that's an easy 15 feet away from the door where he entered and he has yet to eject anything from the rifle and you can see it when he's a solid 5 feet away from it so it didn't fall out of his vest either. It's even loaded because he runs to it, picks it up and uses it two minutes later.

Certainly strange and I can see why /pol/ is going nuts with it.

My initial thought was that another shooter had already entered and dropped it, but given how small that place appears to be and how the people were acting when he first showed up, that can't be the case. Honestly, I really have no idea what to think on this one.

[The New California Republic]

Time zones meant that I slept through this and it was the first thing that I saw on the morning news about an hour ago. I wonder who the suspects are that they have in custody.

[Cedoria]

Uhm, New Zealand has strict gun laws...

Not every argument on the planet revolves around dumb US domestic politics, it may shock you to know.

Couple of things.

One, New Zealand gun laws are strict compared to the United States but comparatively lax compared with countries like the UK or Australia. In fact, as recently as August last year there were talks and discussions about firearms legislation reform because police were concerned about how easy it was to obtain what they describe as a "Military Style Semi-Automatic" (MSSA).

Two, the intent of the identified shooter was to influence the firearms debate in the United States by attempting to get all firearms banned in New Zealand.

One of his intents, sure.

Thanks for the info on the laws.

[Confederate States of German America]

Also, just because the irony is intense, after he exits the Mosque, he's literally playing a Trap remix of an SS March through his car radio.

[Torrocca]

Yeah. I'll walk you through it so you don't have to go watch the video. He shoots the people at the door with a shotgun, discards it once it's empty and switches to a rifle and fires off a few shots and as he's moving towards the main room he glances down to his left as he's walking and looks right at an AR magazine that's an easy 15 feet away from the door where he entered and he has yet to eject anything from the rifle and you can see it when he's a solid 5 feet away from it so it didn't fall out of his vest either. It's even loaded because he runs to it, picks it up and uses it two minutes later.

Certainly strange and I can see why /pol/ is going nuts with it.

My initial thought was that another shooter had already entered and dropped it, but given how small that place appears to be and how the people were acting when he first showed up, that can't be the case. Honestly, I really have no idea what to think on this one.

It's most likely that it fell off while he was spinning around in the doorway midway down the hall.

You can see early on in the video that the magazines aren't that secure to his person.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I’m reading r/TheDonald, and apparently "Spyro and Fortnite has been cited as two of his many inspirations"...

This seems rather bizarre, can somebody confirm this for me please?