50 Dead After New Zealand Terrorist Attack

[Costa Fierro]

Thanks for the reading. I'd certainly hope he isn't charged for using anything in self defense.

As I said, police often use discretion when dealing with things so I doubt they would prosecute someone for doing something like that.

[Valentine Z]

I don't know why I'm writing right now, other than a vague need to try and express how I'm feeling and get my thoughts straight.

I'm from New Zealand myself - in fact, Christchurch is my home town - and I've spent most of the last few hours trying to ensure my family (who live within a block of the one of the Mosques) are safe.

It's very hard to explain to people in other parts of the world what it feels like to be in New Zealand right now, other than to say the entire country is in shock. Terrorism, and mass murder, on this scale has never happened before.

There is a real sense that the country has lost its innocence.

I am upset in a way that I have never experienced before.

I am sorry to hear that, and I wish you and your family to be safe and well through these hard times.

I can only guess how you are feeling right now, so... yeah, please do stay safe as well!

[Confederate States of German America]

THIS IS NOT AMERICA GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEADS

The manifesto explicitly stated one of the reasons for the attack was to further the gun debate in the US in hopes of causing civil conflict.

Dude posted on 4Chan before the attacks apparently.

Speaking of which, an oddity I noticed and got pointed out there as well: in the livestream as the shooter busts in he finds a magazine laying on the ground, literally does a double take, and then picks it up.

[RiderSyl]

Part of the motivation for the attack was to spark a firearm legislation debate between Americans.

Maybe we shouldn't validate the attackers' motives? Maybe we shouldn't give him what he wants almost immediately? I dunno.

I rather not be controlled by the whims of some psychopath on the other end of the globe.

Then you shouldn't want to talk about the subject he just killed 49 people to make relevant, if you'd rather not be controlled by his whims.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The manifesto explicitly stated one of the reasons for the attack was to further the gun debate in the US in hopes of causing civil conflict.

Dude posted on 4Chan before the attacks apparently.

Speaking of which, an oddity I noticed and got pointed out there as well: in the livestream as the shooter busts in he finds a magazine laying on the ground, literally does a double take, and then picks it up.

From the looks of it the mag falls out of his vest when the guy tried to tackle him, he picks it up a little bit after.

[Costa Fierro]

It seems like NZ's lack of terror attacks and big murders seems to have played a part in why it was chosen as the place for the attack, at least that's what I was reading earlier.

Yes, the last mass shooting was in 1990, and the last terrorist attack was in 1985.

[Neanderthaland]

I don't know why I'm writing right now, other than a vague need to try and express how I'm feeling and get my thoughts straight.

I'm from New Zealand myself - in fact, Christchurch is my home town - and I've spent most of the last few hours trying to ensure my family (who live within a block of the one of the Mosques) are safe.

It's very hard to explain to people in other parts of the world what it feels like to be in New Zealand right now, other than to say the entire country is in shock. Terrorism, and mass murder, on this scale has never happened before.

There is a real sense that the country has lost its innocence.

I am upset in a way that I have never experienced before.

That's an appropriate reaction. This sort of thing is and should be shocking to the human conscience.

The true loss of innocence comes when you hear about another mass-shooting in the news, and you just sort of shrug it off.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

This is just incredible horror. Wilfully attacking a place of worship is among the lowest acts a human can perpetrate. Fuck the bastard.

[Confederate States of German America]

Dude posted on 4Chan before the attacks apparently.

Speaking of which, an oddity I noticed and got pointed out there as well: in the livestream as the shooter busts in he finds a magazine laying on the ground, literally does a double take, and then picks it up.

From the looks of it the mag falls out of his vest when the guy tried to tackle him, he picks it up a little bit after.

Clip I've got is just him advancing down the hallway and then noticing it ahead of him. He initially breaches with a shotgun it seems, then switches to the carbine.

[The Archregimancy]

I rather not be controlled by the whims of some psychopath on the other end of the globe.

Then you shouldn't want to talk about the subject he just killed 49 people to make relevant, if you'd rather not be controlled by his whims.

RiderSyl, assume my recent knock it off to Torrocca and the Black Party applies to you as well.

Just take a moment to take a deep breath and pause before continuing this line of discussion. It's unhelpful given the emotive nature of the ongoing events.

Thank you.

[Costa Fierro]

The Police Commissioner has said that a man has been charged with murder and will appear in the Christchurch District Court tomorrow morning.

[Torrocca]

This is just incredible horror. Wilfully attacking a place of worship is among the lowest acts a human can perpetrate. Fuck the bastard.

The perpetrators deserve more than whatever the New Zealand legal system can think to throw their way. They're monstrous people.

[RiderSyl]

Then you shouldn't want to talk about the subject he just killed 49 people to make relevant, if you'd rather not be controlled by his whims.

RiderSyl, assume my recent knock it off to Torrocca and the Black Party applies to you as well.

Just take a moment to take a deep breath and pause before continuing this line of discussion. It's unhelpful given the emotive nature of the ongoing events.

Thank you.

Understood, Arch.

[Seythennia]

I don't know why I'm writing right now, other than a vague need to try and express how I'm feeling and get my thoughts straight.

I'm from New Zealand myself - in fact, Christchurch is my home town - and I've spent most of the last few hours trying to ensure my family (who live within a block of the one of the Mosques) are safe.

It's very hard to explain to people in other parts of the world what it feels like to be in New Zealand right now, other than to say the entire country is in shock. Terrorism, and mass murder, on this scale has never happened before.

There is a real sense that the country has lost its innocence.

I am upset in a way that I have never experienced before.

It seems like NZ's lack of terror attacks and big murders seems to have played a part in why it was chosen as the place for the attack, at least that's what I was reading earlier.

According to his manifesto he chose NZ due to its relative remoteness:
"Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world..."

[Western Vale Confederacy]

From the looks of it the mag falls out of his vest when the guy tried to tackle him, he picks it up a little bit after.

Clip I've got is just him advancing down the hallway and then noticing it ahead of him. He initially breaches with a shotgun it seems, then switches to the carbine.

I vehemently refuse to watch a single second of this despicable livestream.

[Costa Fierro]

That's an appropriate reaction. This sort of thing is and should be shocking to the human conscience.

The true loss of innocence comes when you hear about another mass-shooting in the news, and you just sort of shrug it off.

I'm still struggling to believe that this happened. I've never been speechless before but watching the news unfold and the details of what was happening...words failed.

[Confederate States of German America]

Clip I've got is just him advancing down the hallway and then noticing it ahead of him. He initially breaches with a shotgun it seems, then switches to the carbine.

I vehemently refuse to watch a single second of this despicable livestream.

It's pretty graphic, not going to lie, so I'm not going to link it.

[Neanderthaland]

This is just incredible horror. Wilfully attacking a place of worship is among the lowest acts a human can perpetrate. Fuck the bastard.

I share your outrage, but I disagree that the tragedy here is the choice of venue. Murdering scores of innocents is low no matter where you do it.

[Vassenor]

So another case of WhiteNat terrorism?

[Washington Resistance Army]

From the looks of it the mag falls out of his vest when the guy tried to tackle him, he picks it up a little bit after.

Clip I've got is just him advancing down the hallway and then noticing it ahead of him. He initially breaches with a shotgun it seems, then switches to the carbine.

Hmm, that sounds like it's edited tbh. From what I remember the video went: breach -> runs down the hall shooting into the side and then main room -> retreat into hall to reload -> guy rushes, both fall over, mag presumably falls out here -> return to main room -> hallway again, find mag, pick it up.

Probably just 4chan trying to push the lel false flag idea as always.

[Shrillland]

So another case of WhiteNat terrorism?

Indeed it is, and the worst in New Zealand's history. Death toll's up to 49, and I don't think it's done climbing yet.

[Painisia]

I strongly condemn this act of bestiality. Thoughts and solidarity with the people of New Zealand. The most shocking detail of this gunman, is that he was inspired by one of our bastards, Anders B Breivik. It now seems that far-right terrorists have gotten out of their 4chan nests and have begun acting. I now fear that more will come....

[Radiatia]

I don't know why I'm writing right now, other than a vague need to try and express how I'm feeling and get my thoughts straight.

I'm from New Zealand myself - in fact, Christchurch is my home town - and I've spent most of the last few hours trying to ensure my family (who live within a block of the one of the Mosques) are safe.

It's very hard to explain to people in other parts of the world what it feels like to be in New Zealand right now, other than to say the entire country is in shock. Terrorism, and mass murder, on this scale has never happened before.

There is a real sense that the country has lost its innocence.

I am upset in a way that I have never experienced before.

That's an appropriate reaction. This sort of thing is and should be shocking to the human conscience.

The true loss of innocence comes when you hear about another mass-shooting in the news, and you just sort of shrug it off.

Thanks for your comment (and also to the many others above).

The truth is that a lot of the time I am guilty of doing that - we hear about them all the time in the news and I do shrug them off. I'll think "That's awful, but that's what you expect for living in [The US/UK/Europe/India/Etc.]"

And a conversation always ensues about how lucky we are to live in a small country on the bottom of the planet where these things don't happen. Where we are basically a bunch of Hobbits.

But to have this happen in your own backyard, in your own home town - as I'm sure any denizen of any major global city has already experienced now - is a different feeling.

New Zealand is a small country and Christchurch is not a huge city. There is every chance I will know some of the victims. I'll definitely know their families. Even if I don't know them well, I've probably seen them in shops, or walked into shops they own. I've passed them on the street. I've probably shared a glance or a joke or a smile.

These aren't just faces on the news now. And suddenly everywhere feels a lot less safe.

[Shrillland]

I strongly condemn this act of bestiality. Thoughts and solidarity with the people of New Zealand. The most shocking detail of this gunman, is that he was inspired by one of our bastards, Anders B Breivik. It now seems that far-right terrorists have gotten out of their 4chan nests and have begun acting. I now fear that more will come....

You mean brutality, I hope....

[Starblaydia]

I vehemently refuse to watch a single second of this despicable livestream.

It's pretty graphic, not going to lie, so I'm not going to link it.

Not that I'm suggesting you will, nor am I admonishing you for bringing up its existence, but this rule was mentioned a couple of dozen pages back and I wanted to re-iterate the policy:

As stated by Farn earlier in this thread, anyone linking this video will face an immediate 24 hour ban, at the very minimum.