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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:17 am

Torrocca wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:And that is what im talking about, keep pushing that narrative...


The Black Party wrote:Yes, terrorist attacks motivated by far-right ideology is almost, if not, always committed by those who identify with the far-right. Newsflash.

Unless you are suggesting terrorism in general is almost always committed by the far-right, in which case, that is wrong.


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.


I am in no way justifying ANY far-right terrorist attacks, buuut...

Us Québécois are very familiar with the other side of the medal.

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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:18 am

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Yusseria wrote:Ah, nice to see you're shitting up another thread with your discount leftypol-level memes. Even better when mixed in with the cringe, wannabe black sass. You're a pasty white dude probably wearing ripped skinny jeans and a "Bash Da Fash" t-shirt that you and your commie dork friends all have while sitting in your basement with tofu crumbs on your cheeks while you sip from your Starbucks coffee. And i can only imagine your 5'0, 82-pound physique. Perfectly suitable for the uncomfortable, creepy sexual comments you make when debating with people that perfectly encapsulates why people hate communists.

Go away.

You sound mad.

Given that you're pretty much an admitted troll...
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Well, when I say "study" what I actually mean is "bully anyone with a fashy weaboo avatar or a fashy pepe avatar until they log out for good".

...a bit. You're a toxic individual. You're a divider who only gets any enjoyment in life from internet trolling.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:18 am

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Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Lmao, how about the past hundred years of Islamic violence against the west? The left hasn't killed in forever because it hasn't been a relevant ideal for at least 30 some odd years


You mean far-right extremists of a different religious faith?

Thanks for backing me up on this one. Glad to know you agree that the far-right is morally reprehensible.

Lmao, and leftism isn't for its years of brutal murder against innocents?
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Postby Bombadil » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:18 am

Torrocca wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:No one's justifying this except WoodFriedPizzas. Also, pls don't politicize a massacre.


It was already politicized when the fucking killer and his cronies in question decided to make it so. They're far-right extremists and mass-murderers, the whole lot of them.


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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:18 am

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Liriena wrote:Well, when I say "study" what I actually mean is "bully anyone with a fashy weaboo avatar or a fashy pepe avatar until they log out for good".
Wow, its like you think that actually hurt my feeling lmao

Why would I try to hurt your feelings?

Oh, your flag. Phone screen didn't let me see the detail.

Don't worry. I don't actually condone bullying... and you already embarrassed yourself enough all on your own.
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Postby The Black Party » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:19 am

Torrocca wrote:How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

But we're not justifying the attack. We're also not accusing the radical left of committing recent mass-murder. We're countering your shit idea that Right-Wing folk are the chunk of perpetrators of Terrorist Attacks, an unsubstantiated claim.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:20 am

Liriena wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Wow, its like you think that actually hurt my feeling lmao

Why would I try to hurt your feelings?

Oh, your flag. Phone screen didn't let me see the detail.

Don't worry. I don't actually condone bullying... and you already embarrassed yourself enough all on your own.

I don't feel embarrassed? Do you?
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Postby Bombadil » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:21 am

Hey guess what peeps.. this is not about you.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:21 am

Yusseria wrote:
Liriena wrote:You sound mad.

Given that you're pretty much an admitted troll...
Liriena wrote:Well, when I say "study" what I actually mean is "bully anyone with a fashy weaboo avatar or a fashy pepe avatar until they log out for good".

...a bit. You're a toxic individual. You're a divider who only gets any enjoyment in life from internet trolling.

"Toxic individual", says the person who just dedicated a lengthy post to speculating about my appearance and lifestyle in a sad attempt to demean me.

If you think I'm a troll, report me. And if you want to roast me, don't be so lazy about it.
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:21 am

Torrocca wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:And that is what im talking about, keep pushing that narrative...


The Black Party wrote:Yes, terrorist attacks motivated by far-right ideology is almost, if not, always committed by those who identify with the far-right. Newsflash.

Unless you are suggesting terrorism in general is almost always committed by the far-right, in which case, that is wrong.


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

Lmao.

I'd love to hear what you think leads to these shootings. Give me your expert analysis.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:21 am

The Black Party wrote:
Torrocca wrote:How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

But we're not justifying the attack. We're also not accusing the radical left of committing recent mass-murder. We're countering your shi* idea that Right-Wing folk are the chunk of perpetrators of Terrorist Attacks, an unsubstantiated claim.

Torrocca said "far-right".
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:22 am

Bombadil wrote:Hey guess what peeps.. this is not about you.
It will be when the shit show finally starts
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Postby The Black Party » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:22 am

Liriena wrote:Don't worry. I don't actually condone bullying... and you already embarrassed yourself enough all on your own.

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:I don't feel embarrassed? Do you?

You both are great, but it's the shooting I'm worried about.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:22 am

Yeah, can we get back on topic pls?
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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:23 am

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
Liriena wrote:Why would I try to hurt your feelings?

Oh, your flag. Phone screen didn't let me see the detail.

Don't worry. I don't actually condone bullying... and you already embarrassed yourself enough all on your own.

I don't feel embarrassed? Do you?

That's my secret, bud: I'm always embarrassed.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:23 am

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Hey guess what peeps.. this is not about you.
It will be when the shit show finally starts


Unlikely.

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Postby The Black Party » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:23 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Black Party wrote:But we're not justifying the attack. We're also not accusing the radical left of committing recent mass-murder. We're countering your shi* idea that Right-Wing folk are the chunk of perpetrators of Terrorist Attacks, an unsubstantiated claim.

Torrocca said "far-right".

Right-wing, far-right, Alt-Syke, Remove Bikes, whatever. You get the point.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:24 am

Liriena wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:I don't feel embarrassed? Do you?

That's my secret, bud: I'm always embarrassed.

Good to know
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:24 am

Liriena wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Given that you're pretty much an admitted troll...

...a bit. You're a toxic individual. You're a divider who only gets any enjoyment in life from internet trolling.

"Toxic individual", says the person who just dedicated a lengthy post to speculating about my appearance and lifestyle in a sad attempt to demean me.

If you think I'm a troll, report me. And if you want to roast me, don't be so lazy about it.

Ranting about a toxic individual certainly doesn't make me toxic. But hey, all you really have to justify yourself is "but ur toxic too heuheu". Pathetic.

But hey, what can you do? All your options are meme harder, post pathetic ad hominems are post some creepy sexual comments to try and make people leave of their own volition. You have nothing else. You're weak ideologically, weak meme-wise, weak insult-wise. You have nothing. But don't worry. I'm sure someone else will come along for you to troll so you can desperately try to get a few minutes of enjoyment in your otherwise meaningless existence on this site.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:25 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.


I am in no way justifying ANY far-right terrorist attacks, buuut...

Us Québécois are very familiar with the other side of the medal.


So we have one incident of note that led to one death almost exactly fifty years ago.

Thanks for confirming that the norm of these terrorist attacks come from the right.

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Torrocca wrote:How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

But we're not justifying the attack. We're also not accusing the radical left of committing recent mass-murder. We're countering your shit idea that Right-Wing folk are the chunk of perpetrators of Terrorist Attacks, an unsubstantiated claim.


You're objectively wrong. Doubly so, since Islamic extremists are most frequently far-right ideologically.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:27 am

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

Lmao.

I'd love to hear what you think leads to these shootings. Give me your expert analysis.


The ideology itself, and the festering ideas that manifest from it.

I can link you an archive of the 8chan thread that came about just before the shooting which demonstrates this clearly (if it's allowed by the mods), or the shooter's manifesto, which does the same, if you'd so like.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:27 am

Torrocca wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
I am in no way justifying ANY far-right terrorist attacks, buuut...

Us Québécois are very familiar with the other side of the medal.


So we have one incident of note that led to one death almost exactly fifty years ago.

Thanks for confirming that the norm of these terrorist attacks come from the right.

The Black Party wrote:But we're not justifying the attack. We're also not accusing the radical left of committing recent mass-murder. We're countering your shit idea that Right-Wing folk are the chunk of perpetrators of Terrorist Attacks, an unsubstantiated claim.


You're objectively wrong. Doubly so, since Islamic extremists are most frequently far-right ideologically.


>one death

Okay then, let’s completely ignore the fact that he was a fucking MINISTER and triggered a crisis that literally led to the ARMY converging on Montreal and martial law being declared.

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Postby Bombadil » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:27 am

Let's remember what we're discussing..

Forty people been killed and 20 injured in a terrorist attack on two mosques in Christchurch, which occurred during afternoon prayers.
Three people – one of them an Australian-born man – are in custody.
It was described as “a terrorist attack” by NZ prime minister Jacinda Ardern, and an “extremist, right-wing violent terrorist [attack]” by Australian prime minister Scott Morrison.
Christchurch remains on lockdown.
Ardern said: “Many directly affected by this shooting may be migrants to New Zealand, they may even be refugees here...They are us. The person who has perpetuated this violence against us is not.”
The attacker is believed to have livestreamed at least one of the attacks. Police urged people not to share the “distressing” footage, which many Australian news outlets ignored.
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 am

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Lmao.

I'd love to hear what you think leads to these shootings. Give me your expert analysis.


The ideology itself, and the festering ideas that manifest from it.

I can link you an archive of the 8chan thread that came about just before the shooting which demonstrates this clearly (if it's allowed by the mods), or the shooter's manifesto, which does the same, if you'd so like.

Which ideology is that?

There are many strains of far-right ideology.
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 am

Absolute horror. This recent trend of right-wing terrorism is concerning.
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