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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:58 pm

Creslonia wrote:I live south of Christchurch and all local schools were put on lockdown.

Good. At one point, the shooter spared two schoolchildren crossing the street.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:58 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Why do people do "Christian/Catholic"? Catholics are Christians, the one term includes the other.

I just don't want to offend anyone. I'm sure if I use one when I mean the other, someone, somewhere, will go ballistic.

Well, I think you're overthinking it. The opponents of the Turks were the Holy League. But we digress.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:58 pm

I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast unfiltered to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 pm

Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.


Unless you go full North Korea or China on the Internet you really can't crackdown on these things. People can always just set up a new place for like minded folks.
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Postby Woodfiredpizzas » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 pm

Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.


Hell they could have converted to another religion and stopped it themselves.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 pm

Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.

Mods could've prevented this. I feel like every forum/comment section should have mods to flag certain comments.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:00 pm

Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast unfiltered to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.

There are more ways to stop these events from occurring rather then trying to extinguish freedom of speech.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:00 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.

Mods could've prevented this. I feel like every forum/comment section should have mods to flag certain comments.

Stormfront probably wouldn't get mods to ban people spreading white supremacist rhetoric.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:01 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.

Mods could've prevented this. I feel like every forum/comment section should have mods to flag certain comments.


>implying 8chan gives a shit about what gets posted

lol
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:01 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.

Mods could've prevented this. I feel like every forum/comment section should have mods to flag certain comments.

Dude, what? No,

what?

That's not how forum works
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:01 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Who?


If Kanye West was a political philosopher she'd be in the "influences" list in his biography.

I still have no idea who she is
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:01 pm

The Black Party wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast unfiltered to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.

There are more ways to stop these events from occurring rather then trying to extinguish freedom of speech.

Like, for instance, giving money to psychiatrists.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:01 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Mods could've prevented this. I feel like every forum/comment section should have mods to flag certain comments.

Stormfront probably wouldn't get mods to ban people spreading white supremacist rhetoric.

I'm not saying white supremacist rhetoric should be banned, but that violent white supremacist rhetoric should be flagged by mods.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:02 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Mods could've prevented this. I feel like every forum/comment section should have mods to flag certain comments.


>implying 8chan gives a shit about what gets posted

lol


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Postby Forsher » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:02 pm

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The Black Party wrote:He was a high-ranking participant at the Battle of Lepanto, where the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Christian/Catholic/Whatever Forces.

Why do people do "Christian/Catholic"? Catholics are Christians, the one term includes the other.


Because there's a difference between Catholics and Orthodox and this may be a distinction worthy making.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Forsher wrote:
If Kanye West was a political philosopher she'd be in the "influences" list in his biography.

I still have no idea who she is

Candice Owens.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:03 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:A criminal that must be caught!

I guess we can call the perpetrator(s) terrorist.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:04 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:Stormfront probably wouldn't get mods to ban people spreading white supremacist rhetoric.

I'm not saying white supremacist rhetoric should be banned, but that violent white supremacist rhetoric should be flagged by mods.

Forum rules are not universal.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:04 pm

Risottia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:A criminal that must be caught!

I guess we can call the perpetrator(s) terrorist.


Complete with a manifesto even.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:05 pm

Risottia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:A criminal that must be caught!

I guess we can call the perpetrator(s) terrorist.


Allot of media outlets are still calling it a "shooting incident", instead of a terrorist attack.

It's only terrorism when radical Islamist do it.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:06 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:HOLY FUCK!
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NOW WILL PEOPLE TAKE THE BREITBART COMMENTS SERIOUSLY, THIS SHIT COULD HAPPEN SIMILARLY BUT WITH BREITBART COMMENTERS!


Not when Donald Trump just tweeted the Breitbart news link just 2 hours ago for no apparent reason.. when people like him are supporting such blatantly shit news sources.. well who's surprised that people feel emboldened.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:07 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Risottia wrote:I guess we can call the perpetrator(s) terrorist.


Allot of media outlets are still calling it a "shooting incident", instead of a terrorist attack.

It's only terrorism when radical Islamist do it.

Or maybe it's because not enough information has come out for a professional news report to be done on the incident yet.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bombadil wrote:I am genuinely conflicted between belief in free speech and the simple need to crack down on these hateful online communities that fuel this shit. It's a real problem that anyone, anywhere can broadcast to millions either publicly or privately and not much is done to address it.

Someone could have flagged this. This was not unstoppable.


Unless you go full North Korea or China on the Internet you really can't crackdown on these things. People can always just set up a new place for like minded folks.

That's why I've come to support ruthless doxxing instead. If their platforms eventually get shut down by the owners, great. But in the meantime, common people exposing these mediocre piles of shit and making their real lives a living hell is also a good deterrent.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:08 pm

Liriena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Unless you go full North Korea or China on the Internet you really can't crackdown on these things. People can always just set up a new place for like minded folks.

That's why I've come to support ruthless doxxing instead. If their platforms eventually get shut down by the owners, great. But in the meantime, common people exposing these mediocre piles of shit and making their real lives a living hell is also a good deterrent.


Sounds like a good way to get people hurt tbqh
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:08 pm

Someone has already made the incident into a meme. How sick.

https://twitter.com/xNacify/status/1106434993159471104
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