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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:46 pm

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The fact that whenever it's come up it's met with a cry of "You're causing division, just like he wants".


which is what youre doing by saying "i bet the right wing was the cause of this!"

which is, oh hey, exactly what he wanted.


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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:47 pm

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Because dogs on here were saying that unlike this guy Mandela dindu nuffin.


Well considering you have yet to explain what he personally did do...


Errr i fucking did. Literally founded a terrorist group called Umkhonto we Sizwe

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Postby Loben » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:47 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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what makes this ANY different from that church shooting? body count?

Not the topic.


it most certainly is part of it.

The church shooter was a white nationalist, likely posted on /pol/ and irc he had no manifesto.

why was there no such response to this then? was it the victims?

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 pm

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Well considering you have yet to explain what he personally did do...


Errr i fucking did. Literally founded a terrorist group called Umkhonto we Sizwe


Uh-huh. So what government was this terrorist fighting against?
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Postby Loben » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 pm

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which is what youre doing by saying "i bet the right wing was the cause of this!"

which is, oh hey, exactly what he wanted.


Quod Erat Demonstrandum.


what? english?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:48 pm

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Not really.

Crazy alt right man went to a mosque, killed a bunch of people.

The alt right is bad for egging this on and radicalising him.

No, you are. You keep calling him crazy. He knew perfectly well what he was doing and he had reasons for it which he wrote down in his manifesto. But I guess we're not supposed to read it in order to understand why he did this because... reasons?

Ok.

It was me actually trying just to shit on his manifesto by calling him crazy.

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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:49 pm

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Errr i fucking did. Literally founded a terrorist group called Umkhonto we Sizwe


Uh-huh. So what government was this terrorist fighting against?


South Africa Defence Force was their main opponent. They were also considered Terrorists by the United States.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:50 pm

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Uh-huh. So what government was this terrorist fighting against?


South Africa Defence Force was their main opponent. They were also considered Terrorists by the United States.


I was talking about the mosque shooter. Given that you are trying to establish equivalence, there must be a government that he was fighting against.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:50 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:No, you are. You keep calling him crazy. He knew perfectly well what he was doing and he had reasons for it which he wrote down in his manifesto. But I guess we're not supposed to read it in order to understand why he did this because... reasons?

Ok.

It was me actually trying just to shit on his manifesto by calling him crazy.

You can shit on his manifesto all you want. The issue is you keep acting like no one should read it to try to understand this in a more in-depth manner.
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Postby Licana » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:51 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Sane people don't go into a building and openfire on random people.


This is an absurdly naive thing to say. Sanity is not defined by morality, as shown by a relevant event earlier this decade.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:52 pm

Proctopeo and Yusseria have a point. The manifesto and other things in his life mat point authorities to why this criminal did what he did. Calling him "crazy" won't do anything.

However the video shouldn't be watched. Also Nelson Mandela isn't the topic of this thread.
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Postby Loben » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:52 pm

Licana wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Sane people don't go into a building and openfire on random people.


This is an absurdly naive thing to say. Sanity is not defined by morality, as shown by a relevant event earlier this decade.


So you can kill a hundred or so people and get *only* 21 years.

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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:52 pm

Licana wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Sane people don't go into a building and openfire on random people.


This is an absurdly naive thing to say. Sanity is not defined by morality, as shown by a relevant event earlier this decade.

>tfw you kill 77 people and only get 21 years

Man, I really do hope NZ doesn't have such retarded laws and puts this guy away for life.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:52 pm

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South Africa Defence Force was their main opponent. They were also considered Terrorists by the United States.


I was talking about the mosque shooter. Given that you are trying to establish equivalence, there must be a government that he was fighting against.


Indirectly against the immigration policies of New Zealand

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:53 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Licana wrote:
This is an absurdly naive thing to say. Sanity is not defined by morality, as shown by a relevant event earlier this decade.

>tfw you kill 77 people and only get 21 years

Man, I really do hope NZ doesn't have such retarded laws and puts this guy away for life.

Or the death penalty.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:53 pm

CrvenaParsa wrote:
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I was talking about the mosque shooter. Given that you are trying to establish equivalence, there must be a government that he was fighting against.


Indirectly against the immigration policies of New Zealand


So that's a no then. He wasn't fighting against the government so much as being a racist skidmark.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:53 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>tfw you kill 77 people and only get 21 years

Man, I really do hope NZ doesn't have such retarded laws and puts this guy away for life.

Or the death penalty.

Doubt they have it there.
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Postby Licana » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:53 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Licana wrote:
This is an absurdly naive thing to say. Sanity is not defined by morality, as shown by a relevant event earlier this decade.

>tfw you kill 77 people and only get 21 years

Man, I really do hope NZ doesn't have such retarded laws and puts this guy away for life.


The sentence can be extended indefinitely so long as the police/gov't feel that he is a threat to society, iirc.
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:54 pm

Yusseria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Or the death penalty.

Doubt they have it there.

They don't, I forgot that it was abolished in 1989.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:54 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>tfw you kill 77 people and only get 21 years

Man, I really do hope NZ doesn't have such retarded laws and puts this guy away for life.

Or the death penalty.


Capital Punishment has been illegal in New Zealand since 1989.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:55 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Indirectly against the immigration policies of New Zealand


So that's a no then. He wasn't fighting against the government so much as being a racist skidmark.


As Nelson Mandela was

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:55 pm

Licana wrote:
Yusseria wrote:>tfw you kill 77 people and only get 21 years

Man, I really do hope NZ doesn't have such retarded laws and puts this guy away for life.


The sentence can be extended indefinitely so long as the police/gov't feel that he is a threat to society, iirc.


A few “sorry’s” should convince the police that he is sorrowful and remorseful of the tragedy he inflicted.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:55 pm

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So that's a no then. He wasn't fighting against the government so much as being a racist skidmark.


As Nelson Mandela was


Because racial equality is racist apparently.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:55 pm

CrvenaParsa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So that's a no then. He wasn't fighting against the government so much as being a racist skidmark.


As Nelson Mandela was

Both of you please get back on topic.
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Postby Loben » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:56 pm

CrvenaParsa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So that's a no then. He wasn't fighting against the government so much as being a racist skidmark.


As Nelson Mandela was


i dont know why youre driving this angle because youre not getting anywhere.

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