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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:21 pm

Loben wrote:
Yusseria wrote:To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


Seemed like he wanted to start shit, and the media, the NZ government and ever so intelligent check marks on Twitter are doing exactly what he wants. hook, line, sinker.

Verified Twitter users are complete garbage. When you see a check mark next to someone's name it's best to assume that there's a 90% chance they're a left-wing moron.
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Postby Zizou » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:21 pm

Loben wrote:
Yusseria wrote:To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


Seemed like he wanted to start shit, and the media, the NZ government and ever so intelligent check marks on Twitter are doing exactly what he wants. hook, line, sinker.

It's true that he wanted to create division among us, but at the same time, we shouldn't stop ourselves from calmly discussing what events led up to this, and what we can do to prevent such things in the future.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:22 pm

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Saiwania wrote:I found a source to view the full shooting, I'm just trying to determine if I dare to or not.

I'm fairly certain that there is no law against it in the US and that I'm never going to New Zealand and that New Zealand's law enforcement will never get to me should I decide to go for it. I think it important to witness history whenever possible. I feel it to be immoral even, to be intimidated by New Zealand's police or anyone else trying to cover this up. Besides, doing that gives more fuel to the conspiracy theorists and denialists who will say it is a false flag or whatever.

I'm pretty sure that there is content that is plenty more violent on late night TV for example, what makes this footage so bad and forbidden by comparison?


i saw it, not as bad as what was on r/watchpeopledie

Dunno. I watched a bit of it and the first thing I saw was him killing a wounded person who was desperately trying to crawl away.

It's pretty bad.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:23 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Morbid curiosity, and it helps to avoid playing into his hands.

As with most things with morbid curiosity, you tend to get burned by it.

Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
I was satisfied knowing that I had, at least, knowledge of his intentions for the future.

Did you know he expects to be the next Nelson Mandela?

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Loben wrote:
Seemed like he wanted to start shit, and the media, the NZ government and ever so intelligent check marks on Twitter are doing exactly what he wants. hook, line, sinker.

It's true that he wanted to create division among us, but at the same time, we shouldn't stop ourselves from calmly discussing what events led up to this, and what we can do to prevent such things in the future.

We should do it carefully, and make sure tensions are back down to normal so we can actually discuss it calmly.
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Postby Loben » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:23 pm

Zizou wrote:
Loben wrote:
Seemed like he wanted to start shit, and the media, the NZ government and ever so intelligent check marks on Twitter are doing exactly what he wants. hook, line, sinker.

It's true that he wanted to create division among us, but at the same time, we shouldn't stop ourselves from calmly discussing what events led up to this, and what we can do to prevent such things in the future.


things such as gun restrictions, restrictions on free speech?

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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:23 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Morbid curiosity, and it helps to avoid playing into his hands.

As with most things with morbid curiosity, you tend to get burned by it.

Sun Tzu wrote:If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:24 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Why would you want to read his garbage manifesto?

To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


He did this because he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.


No need to read his shitty manifesto. The only reason why you would want to even have his manifesto, is if you really needed some toilet paper.

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Postby Loben » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:26 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


He did this because he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.


No need to read his shitty manifesto. The only reason why you would want to even have his manifesto, is if you really needed some toilet paper.


welcome to overreactions with Loben.

Here we see someone overreacting to a reasonable suggestion with a rant on asswipe.

this has been overreactions with loben.

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Postby Zizou » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:27 pm

Loben wrote:
Zizou wrote:It's true that he wanted to create division among us, but at the same time, we shouldn't stop ourselves from calmly discussing what events led up to this, and what we can do to prevent such things in the future.


things such as gun restrictions, restrictions on free speech?

Perhaps, yes. I'll refrain from commenting on gun restrictions because I'm unfamiliar with the current state of NZ gun laws. What I will say regarding free speech, is that we must make an effort to understand who or what radicalized him, and how we can prevent whatever it was from further influencing our society.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:27 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


He did this because he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.


No need to read his shitty manifesto. The only reason why you would want to even have his manifesto, is if you really needed some toilet paper.


That's why we have the Talmud.

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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:28 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


He did this because he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.


No need to read his shitty manifesto. The only reason why you would want to even have his manifesto, is if you really needed some toilet paper.

He did it because he wanted to divide the West further and start a race war. He wasn't crazy. Psychopaths aren't insane. They're very cold and calculated. He planned everything down to the little meme quotes he wrote on his guns.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:28 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:To understand (or at least try to, since it's impossible for any non-psycopath to understand) why he did this.


He did this because he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.


No need to read his shitty manifesto. The only reason why you would want to even have his manifesto, is if you really needed some toilet paper.

This is a good example as to why sometimes it's good to actually read manifestos, as in this case, the simplest answer isn't the full story, nor sufficiently accurate to pass as such.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:28 pm

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Vassenor wrote:
Right, how dare we criticise the mentalities among the Right that lead to this attack.

If you read the manifesto, you'd know this is precisely what he wants from you.
This is why he (reportedly) said "subscribe to PewDiePie", why one of his guns had "remove kebab" on the side, why he used the Navy Seal Copypasta in his manifesto...


So yes, we're not allowed to criticise the right for seeding his mentality because reasons.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:28 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:As with most things with morbid curiosity, you tend to get burned by it.

Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
I was satisfied knowing that I had, at least, knowledge of his intentions for the future.

Did you know he expects to be the next Nelson Mandela?

And he attempted to achieve this goal by... killing random people he never met.

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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:29 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:If you read the manifesto, you'd know this is precisely what he wants from you.
This is why he (reportedly) said "subscribe to PewDiePie", why one of his guns had "remove kebab" on the side, why he used the Navy Seal Copypasta in his manifesto...


So yes, we're not allowed to criticise the right for seeding his mentality because reasons.

Yeah, I'm sure Tom Cotton played a big role in radicalizing him.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:29 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
I was satisfied knowing that I had, at least, knowledge of his intentions for the future.

Did you know he expects to be the next Nelson Mandela?

And he attempted to achieve this goal by... killing random people he never met.


Just like Nelson Mandela!!!

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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:30 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:If you read the manifesto, you'd know this is precisely what he wants from you.
This is why he (reportedly) said "subscribe to PewDiePie", why one of his guns had "remove kebab" on the side, why he used the Navy Seal Copypasta in his manifesto...


So yes, we're not allowed to criticise the right for seeding his mentality because reasons.

lmao what
you WANT him to succeed in his long-term goal? kk fam have fun with that

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
I was satisfied knowing that I had, at least, knowledge of his intentions for the future.

Did you know he expects to be the next Nelson Mandela?

And he attempted to achieve this goal by... killing random people he never met.

Hey, I never said he was anywhere remotely rational... if he were, he wouldn't have killed anyone, and instead, I don't know, nailed bacon to their door?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:30 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:If you read the manifesto, you'd know this is precisely what he wants from you.
This is why he (reportedly) said "subscribe to PewDiePie", why one of his guns had "remove kebab" on the side, why he used the Navy Seal Copypasta in his manifesto...


So yes, we're not allowed to criticise the right for seeding his mentality because reasons.

If you use memes it's ironic and thus okay.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:32 pm

Yusseria wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
He did this because he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.


No need to read his shitty manifesto. The only reason why you would want to even have his manifesto, is if you really needed some toilet paper.

He did it because he wanted to divide the West further and start a race war. He wasn't crazy. Psychopaths aren't insane. They're very cold and calculated. He planned everything down to the little meme quotes he wrote on his guns.

>attempting to divide

>wanted to be Nelson Mandela

>Nelson Mandela wanted to unite

clearly, the shooter has perfect logic and wasn't completely crazy after all.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:32 pm

CrvenaParsa wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And he attempted to achieve this goal by... killing random people he never met.


Just like Nelson Mandela!!!


#nowthatswhaticalledgy
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:33 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:He did it because he wanted to divide the West further and start a race war. He wasn't crazy. Psychopaths aren't insane. They're very cold and calculated. He planned everything down to the little meme quotes he wrote on his guns.

>attempting to divide

>wanted to be Nelson Mandela

>Nelson Mandela wanted to unite

clearly, the shooter has perfect logic and wasn't completely crazy after all.

Tbh he wanted to be celebrated like Mandela was and receive a Nobel Prize like him... which speaks plenty of this individual's rampant narcissism.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:33 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:He did it because he wanted to divide the West further and start a race war. He wasn't crazy. Psychopaths aren't insane. They're very cold and calculated. He planned everything down to the little meme quotes he wrote on his guns.

>attempting to divide

>wanted to be Nelson Mandela

>Nelson Mandela wanted to unite

clearly, the shooter has perfect logic and wasn't completely crazy after all.

Surprising though it may be Nelson Mandela was not always peaceful.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:33 pm

Vassenor wrote:
CrvenaParsa wrote:
Just like Nelson Mandela!!!


#nowthatswhaticalledgy

I mean, it is literally his own logic. Again, the manifesto is an important piece of this morbid puzzle.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:34 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:>attempting to divide

>wanted to be Nelson Mandela

>Nelson Mandela wanted to unite

clearly, the shooter has perfect logic and wasn't completely crazy after all.

Tbh he wanted to be celebrated like Mandela was and receive a Nobel Prize like him... which speaks plenty of this individual's rampant narcissism.


He wanted to be like Mandela because like Mandela he committed violence against a certain group but was later hailed as a hero and "peace activist" for it.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:34 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:>attempting to divide

>wanted to be Nelson Mandela

>Nelson Mandela wanted to unite

clearly, the shooter has perfect logic and wasn't completely crazy after all.

Tbh he wanted to be celebrated like Mandela was... which speaks plenty of this individual's rampant narcissism.

In other words:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote: he is a crazy alt right white nationalist.



Again, you could figure that out by just reading the story from the news.

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