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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:15 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:8chan has a /pol/ as well .

shut it down.

This is a incident that shall not be forgiven.

And what about Facebook? Facebook has been used by terror groups for recruiting. Terror attacks have been livestreamed there before. Why not shut it down too?

Get facebook better mods.

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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:15 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
CrvenaParsa wrote:
"OY VEY LOGICAL FALLACY"

Let's be honest. Neo Liberalism is the bigger problem

That really is a logical fallacy. If persons A and B are debating something and one of them says "well what about x?", that's known as whataboutism.


You would know, you Mullah's are very skilled at that

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:17 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:That really is a logical fallacy. If persons A and B are debating something and one of them says "well what about x?", that's known as whataboutism.


You would know, you Mullah's are very skilled at that

I think this a logical fallacy as well. Also, was this snark supposed to affect me somehow?

And no, I'm not a Mullah. Also, if you seriously are making the claim of "Mullahs use whataboutism very often", you'll have to prove it.

Do you even know what a Mullah is?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:17 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:"WhAt AbOuT NeO-LiBeRAl TeRrOrisT AtTaCkS?!?1/" is a logical fallacy and a bad way of trying to bate the conversation away from this heinous crime.


"OY VEY LOGICAL FALLACY"

Let's be honest. Neo Liberalism is the bigger problem


Prove it then.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:18 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:And what about Facebook? Facebook has been used by terror groups for recruiting. Terror attacks have been livestreamed there before. Why not shut it down too?

Get facebook better mods.

Get 8chan better mods. See? I can do that too.

Not trying to pick on you, Herp. I just think going down the rabbit hole of shutting down websites is dangerous.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:18 am

Yusseria wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Get facebook better mods.

Get 8chan better mods. See? I can do that too.

Not trying to pick on you, Herp. I just think going down the rabbit hole of shutting down websites is dangerous.

It's a little different when /pol/ was founded by and for neo-Nazis.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
CrvenaParsa wrote:
"OY VEY LOGICAL FALLACY"

Let's be honest. Neo Liberalism is the bigger problem


Prove it then.


The Yugoslav wars were instigated by Neo-Liberals trying to destroy the state run economy of Yugoslavia
The Iraq War was started by Neo Liberal interests to make money off weapon sales and oil
The attacks on the Iranian Republic are because Neo-Liberal interests in collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia want to gain control of Iran's assets and turn the country into a consumerist shithole
The war in Libya was started to get rid of Gaddafi, who was an adversary of the Neo-Liberals.
Thatcher's Neo-Liberal policies destroyed many lives in the North of England.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:21 am

Fedel wrote:
Yusseria wrote:And what about Facebook? Facebook has been used by terror groups for recruiting. Terror attacks have been livestreamed there before. Why not shut it down too?


Because they know problematic sites when they see them of course. :)

They can't give a strict definition of what constitutes a problematic site. But they sure can give you a big list of them. And one that's constantly changing to boot.


>/pol/ causes 50 deaths

>"LOL THE LEFT CANT DEFINE WAT IS A problematic site"

>12 seconds later

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yusseria wrote:And what about Facebook? Facebook has been used by terror groups for recruiting. Terror attacks have been livestreamed there before. Why not shut it down too?

Get facebook better mods.


>gives reasonable explanation thats custom to different sites

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:21 am

CrvenaParsa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Prove it then.


The Yugoslav wars were instigated by Neo-Liberals trying to destroy the state run economy of Yugoslavia
The Iraq War was started by Neo Liberal interests to make money off weapon sales and oil
The attacks on the Iranian Republic are because Neo-Liberal interests in collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia want to gain control of Iran's assets and turn the country into a consumerist shithole
The war in Libya was started to get rid of Gaddafi, who was an adversary of the Neo-Liberals.
Thatcher's Neo-Liberal policies destroyed many lives in the North of England.


I asked for evidence, not assertions.

Also, >Thatcher

>Liberal

:rofl:
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:22 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Get 8chan better mods. See? I can do that too.

Not trying to pick on you, Herp. I just think going down the rabbit hole of shutting down websites is dangerous.

It's a little different when /pol/ was founded by and for neo-Nazis.

Uh, no. Christopher Poole founded /pol/ along with the rest of 4chan and contrary to popular belief he is not a Neo-Nazi.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:22 am

Vassenor wrote:
CrvenaParsa wrote:
The Yugoslav wars were instigated by Neo-Liberals trying to destroy the state run economy of Yugoslavia
The Iraq War was started by Neo Liberal interests to make money off weapon sales and oil
The attacks on the Iranian Republic are because Neo-Liberal interests in collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia want to gain control of Iran's assets and turn the country into a consumerist shithole
The war in Libya was started to get rid of Gaddafi, who was an adversary of the Neo-Liberals.
Thatcher's Neo-Liberal policies destroyed many lives in the North of England.


I asked for evidence, not assertions.

Also, >Thatcher

>Liberal

:rofl:


Neo-Liberal is slighty different to Liberal. Mostly applies to economics

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Postby Fedel » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:23 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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Because they know problematic sites when they see them of course. :)

They can't give a strict definition of what constitutes a problematic site. But they sure can give you a big list of them. And one that's constantly changing to boot.


>/pol/ causes 50 deaths

>"LOL THE LEFT CANT DEFINE WAT IS A problematic site"

>12 seconds later


Would be interested in you proving that it was /pol/ which caused the shooter to carry out the attack tbh. It may have been a factor of course but you seem to be attributing a majority of the blame to exposure to the site as opposed to certain media outlets fostering a hate for muslims or improper education on the subject.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:23 am

Yusseria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's a little different when /pol/ was founded by and for neo-Nazis.

Uh, no. Christopher Poole founded /pol/ along with the rest of 4chan and contrary to popular belief he is not a Neo-Nazi.

8Chan /pol/.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:24 am

Vassenor wrote:
CrvenaParsa wrote:
The Yugoslav wars were instigated by Neo-Liberals trying to destroy the state run economy of Yugoslavia
The Iraq War was started by Neo Liberal interests to make money off weapon sales and oil
The attacks on the Iranian Republic are because Neo-Liberal interests in collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia want to gain control of Iran's assets and turn the country into a consumerist shithole
The war in Libya was started to get rid of Gaddafi, who was an adversary of the Neo-Liberals.
Thatcher's Neo-Liberal policies destroyed many lives in the North of England.


I asked for evidence, not assertions.

Also, >Thatcher

>Liberal

:rofl:


Thatcher was very much a neoliberal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:25 am

Yusseria wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Get facebook better mods.

Get 8chan better mods. See? I can do that too.

Not trying to pick on you, Herp. I just think going down the rabbit hole of shutting down websites is dangerous.


I get where your coming from and I don't want to shutdown all of 4chan or 8chan.

Just /pol/.

Facebook can be redeemed if they just have a better moderation system.

I'm not for blanket shutting down websites either.

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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:25 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Uh, no. Christopher Poole founded /pol/ along with the rest of 4chan and contrary to popular belief he is not a Neo-Nazi.

8Chan /pol/.

Ah, well then yeah, probably. But so what? I still believe in freedom of speech.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:25 am

CrvenaParsa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I asked for evidence, not assertions.

Also, >Thatcher

>Liberal

:rofl:


Neo-Liberal is slighty different to Liberal. Mostly applies to economics

You still haven't proven that. Nor have you proven that Mullah do whataboutism often.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:26 am

Yusseria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:8Chan /pol/.

Ah, well then yeah, probably. But so what? I still believe in freedom of speech.

Do you believe in the freedom of speech for radical Islamist imams?
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:27 am

CrvenaParsa wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Not my problem if you can't make a logical argument.


I was you just had the ignorance to mock me


"The ignorance to mock me." :roll:

This is an internet forum, not some hypothetical circlejerk where everyone agrees with you. And for good reason, the rise of white nationalist terrorist attacks and violence should be concerning to everyone, unless of course, said person is a white nationalist themselves, in which case they should seriously reconsider their entire outlook on...well, everything.

How do you conflate an economic system, which understandably has it's own problems, with a rise of race-related violence stemming from a movement of frothing, unparalleled, and repulsive bigotry?

The aftermath of ill-conceived economic policy and the aftermath of violence are two things that just aren't comparable.
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Postby CrvenaParsa » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:27 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
CrvenaParsa wrote:
Neo-Liberal is slighty different to Liberal. Mostly applies to economics

You still haven't proven that. Nor have you proven that Mullah do whataboutism often.


"What about Crusades" "What about Kafirs doing X"

Mullahs are basically pigs and roaches and should be treated as such

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Postby Yusseria » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:28 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Ah, well then yeah, probably. But so what? I still believe in freedom of speech.

Do you believe in the freedom of speech for radical Islamist imams?

As long as they aren't explicitly calling for violence then sure. And yes, that same standard for Neo-Nazis.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:28 am

Fedel wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
>/pol/ causes 50 deaths

>"LOL THE LEFT CANT DEFINE WAT IS A problematic site"

>12 seconds later


Would be interested in you proving that it was /pol/ which caused the shooter to carry out the attack tbh. It may have been a factor of course but you seem to be attributing a majority of the blame to exposure to the site as opposed to certain media outlets fostering a hate for muslims or improper education on the subject.


he shit posted on /pol/ prior to doing the attack and was an avid user of /pol/

/pol/ radicalised him and gives him "hero" status in return.

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Postby Amuaplye » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:29 am

CrvenaParsa wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You still haven't proven that. Nor have you proven that Mullah do whataboutism often.


"What about Crusades" "What about Kafirs doing X"

Mullahs are basically pigs and roaches and should be treated as such

And why do you think that?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:30 am

CrvenaParsa wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You still haven't proven that. Nor have you proven that Mullah do whataboutism often.


"What about Crusades" "What about Kafirs doing X"

Mullahs are basically pigs and roaches and should be treated as such

1: Now you have to prove that Mullahs say those settings or something similar to them
2: Do you know what a Mullah is?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:32 am

Yusseria wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Do you believe in the freedom of speech for radical Islamist imams?

As long as they aren't explicitly calling for violence then sure. And yes, that same standard for Neo-Nazis.

Fair enough but I think with this and Charlottesville /pol/ might be explicitly calling for violence.

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