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Fraser Anning clearly crossed the line in response to a callous act of racial hatred.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:47 am

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And the best part is it wasn't even to a violent massacre. Oh well.

What was it a link to?


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Postby Amuaplye » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:48 am

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Amuaplye wrote:What was it a link to?


Japanese guy in a bear costume jumpscaring people. Not the worst thing but it's a PG-13 forum.

Either way, I wasn't going to touch the link with a 10 foot pole.
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Postby Licana » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:48 am

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And the best part is it wasn't even to a violent massacre. Oh well.

What was it a link to?

Druggie crashing his car. No visible gore but not relevant either.
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Postby Tareldar » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:48 am

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Tareldar wrote:Here's some of his own explanation for his attack:

Did you carry out the attack for fame?
No, carrying out an attack for fame would be laughable.After all who can remember the name of the attackers in the September 11 attack in New
York?How about the attack on the pentagon? The attackers in the plane that crashed into the field on the same day?
I will be forgotten quickly.
Which I do not mind. After all I am a private and mostly introverted person. But the aftershock from my actions will ripple for years to come, driving political and social discourse, creating the atmosphere or fear and change that is required.

Why did you target those people?
They were an obvious,visible and large group of invaders, from a culture with higher fertility rates, higher social trust and strong, robust traditions that seek to occupy my peoples lands and ethnically replace my own people.

For how long did you plan this attack?
I begun planning an attack roughly two years in advance and an attack at the location in Christchurch three months in advance.

Why did you choose this time to attack?
The best time to attack was yesterday, the next best time is today. The attack was planned to allow enough time to train, form a plan, settle my affairs, write down my views, then enact the attack.

Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state,
social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.

Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained, but I soon found
out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere else in the West.
Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the
invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass
immigration.

Was there any reason you attacked that(those) mosque(s) in
particular?

Originally the mosque in Dunedin was the main target,particularly after watching the video on their facebook page named “Otago muslim
association”
https://www.facebook.com/Otago-Muslim-A ... 229358786/
The video war entitled “Very interesting video. Only for Muslims. Please do not redistribute” that proved their knowledge of their actions, and their guilt.
https://www.facebook.com/20677822935878 ... 238207116/
But after visiting the mosques in Christchurch and Linwood and seeing the desecration of the church that had been converted to a mosque in
Ashburton, my plans changed. The Christchurch and Linwood mosques had far more invaders, in a more
prominent and optically foreign building, with less students,more adults and a prior history of extremism.
Attacking these mosques also allowed for an extra planned attack on the mosque in Ashburton, whilst I am unsure as of this time of writing
whether I will reach that target, it was a bonus objective.

Do you consider it a terrorist attack?
By the definition, then yes. It is a terrorist attack. But I believe it is a partisan action against an occupying force.

Do you feel any remorse for the attack?
No, I only wish I could have killed more invaders, and more traitors as well.


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...he.....he does know that humans have invaded other countries all over the world since....forever, right?


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Postby Skylus » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Amuaplye wrote:What was it a link to?


"Man high on meth crashes car, keeps partying", according to Google.

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Amuaplye wrote:What was it a link to?


Japanese guy in a bear costume jumpscaring people. Not the worst thing but it's a PG-13 forum.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:50 am

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The South Falls wrote:That is true. Although the night in jail may help.


Assault and Battery should do that for you.

Not to mention Antifa isn't an actual organization. It's a social movement. Now there are groups like Black Bloc.

Any one who opposes fascist is therefor Anti-Fascist.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:52 am

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Assault and Battery should do that for you.

Not to mention Antifa isn't an actual organization. It's a social movement. Now there are groups like Black Bloc.

Any one who opposes fascist is therefor Anti-Fascist.

But they are extreme in their methods, at least those who fight for them


And anyone who conceptually supports representative democracy is a Republican. Amirite?
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:55 am

Telconi wrote:
The South Falls wrote:But they are extreme in their methods, at least those who fight for them


And anyone who conceptually supports representative democracy is a Republican. Amirite?

no I mean literally fight for them.
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Postby Vallermoore » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:04 am

Because of one violent Muslim hating idiot all legal gun owners in New Zealand might well have their guns taken away.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:04 am

The South Falls wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And anyone who conceptually supports representative democracy is a Republican. Amirite?

no I mean literally fight for them.


Sorry that was more of a critique of the argument you replied to. When an organization uses a name of an ideology as an organization named the organization is distinct from that ideology.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:05 am

Vassenor wrote:...Hang on. Why is everyone so desperate to watch this guy livestreaming mass murder?

Humans are... weird? Morbid.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:06 am

Vallermoore wrote:Because of one violent Muslim hating idiot all legal gun owners in New Zealand might well have their guns taken away.


Now you know how the Muslims feel when an Islamist terror attack makes people start calling for them to be kicked out of the country.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:07 am

Vassenor wrote:...Hang on. Why is everyone so desperate to watch this guy livestreaming mass murder?


To affirm belief that humans are bad. Same reason people watched beheading vids or that bodycam footage from the cop who forced a crying suspect to crawl and shot him when he tried to pull up his pants.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:08 am

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Vallermoore wrote:Because of one violent Muslim hating idiot all legal gun owners in New Zealand might well have their guns taken away.


Now you know how the Muslims feel when an Islamist terror attack makes people start calling for them to be kicked out of the country.


Two wrongs dont make a right my dude.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:09 am

Telconi wrote:
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Now you know how the Muslims feel when an Islamist terror attack makes people start calling for them to be kicked out of the country.


Two wrongs dont make a right my dude.


The only ones who've been talking about guns are well... Pro-gun people. Lets talk about the dead, please.

Also, victims names are starting to be released. I wanna hear the name of the martyr who charged the gun man. He will live on in history.
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Postby Digital Planets » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:10 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Two wrongs dont make a right my dude.


The only ones who've been talking about guns are well... Pro-gun people. Lets talk about the dead, please.


They ain't comin' back.

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Postby Andsed » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:12 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Two wrongs dont make a right my dude.


The only ones who've been talking about guns are well... Pro-gun people. Lets talk about the dead, please.

Also, victims names are starting to be released. I wanna hear the name of the martyr who charged the gun man. He will live on in history.

Agreed the guy who charged the gun man is a hero and had some massive balls.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:13 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Two wrongs dont make a right my dude.


The only ones who've been talking about guns are well... Pro-gun people. Lets talk about the dead, please.

Also, victims names are starting to be released. I wanna hear the name of the martyr who charged the gun man. He will live on in history.

And he's going to Jannah. In Al-Islam Muslims automatically go to Jannah for martyrdom, no questions asked.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:15 am

Andsed wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
The only ones who've been talking about guns are well... Pro-gun people. Lets talk about the dead, please.

Also, victims names are starting to be released. I wanna hear the name of the martyr who charged the gun man. He will live on in history.

Agreed the guy who charged the gun man is a hero and had some massive balls.


He apparently didn’t charge the attacker and was instead trying to run past him while he was reloading, but we’ll never know if it was that or if he was truly trying to take down his opponent ‘cause the man’s fucking dead.

Even if he was trying to run past him, he still tried to distract the shooter and most likely attempted to shove him once the flight option was no longer available, and that’s still leagues better than helplessly cowering in a corner.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:15 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
The only ones who've been talking about guns are well... Pro-gun people. Lets talk about the dead, please.

Also, victims names are starting to be released. I wanna hear the name of the martyr who charged the gun man. He will live on in history.

And he's going to Jannah. In Al-Islam Muslims automatically go to Jannah for martyrdom, no questions asked.


That man certainly deserves a straight ticket to heaven.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:16 am

Telconi wrote:
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Now you know how the Muslims feel when an Islamist terror attack makes people start calling for them to be kicked out of the country.


Two wrongs dont make a right my dude.

It does make two wrongs though, which is the original point.
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Postby The Reddington States » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:16 am

Regardless of your religion or political affiliation, no one in the world deserves this fate. More importantly, social extremism should be denounced at every opportunity, and this is especially the case for the Christchurch shooting. The shooter wanted a culture war between the left and the right; this is without a doubt a terrorist attack.

Even worse, after seeing several posts on Twitter, Reddit, and even on NationStates, he may as well have succeeded.

People are either blaming this on multiculturalism (let alone Muslims) or the entire right-wing. It's honestly disgusting.

Again, may the victims of the shooting rest in peace. Muslims, regardless of what you believe, are victims of terrorism in many countries.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:17 am

So he claims no place in the world is safe from the islam invaders and then promptly proceeds to make the place he's in unsafe by shooting people.

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