50 Dead After New Zealand Terrorist Attack

[The Black Party]

Is there any info on the Police response?

I want to know what the police has done to intervene, if anything? Did they wait for the National Guard or something?

[Ohioan Territory]

That video is terrifying.

That being said, fuck anyone who is hateful and violent. I don't care which group you hate. Violence like this is downright evil, and no group of people ever deserves to lose their lives to this... just because someone hates their religion...

[Tareldar]

Based on the video I'd be surprised if fewer than 20 died. He went back in after shooting up the place and shot up the bodies huddled in the corners. It's bloody insane.

Is it confirmed there where fatalities because i have heard that has not corroborated

I watched the video. He goes back in and shoots people in the head and chest repeatedly.

[Amuaplye]

And the fact that this problem of right-wing terrorism has been growing worse and worse since Anders Breivik killed 77 people in Norway back in 2011.

Terrorism in general is a problem. It's not only a problem if a Right-Winger is a perpetrator.

Agreed. But, right-wing terrorism has seen a massive uptick. The Jefferstown shooter, Breivik, the Pittsburgh shooter, Sayoc, etc.

[The Underground Movement Union]

Hell I disagree with the Islamic faith on a ton of occasions as a religion and with the general cultural aspects it's brought, but to commit acts of violence against them is just flat out wrong in every sense. I'll be praying for the victims & families.

[Tareldar]

In his manifesto he says he picked New Zealand because it was detached from the usual violence and terrorism.

He also says he hopes to spark a civil conflict in the United States by inspiring people to overturn the 2nd Amendment and seize rifles.

thats odd.

It takes someone odd to do what he did.

[Yusseria]

Kind of funny that nationalism's the problem when it's a white perpetrator, but Islam isn't when it's a Muslim terror attack.

Being white isn't the problem, nationalism is.. being Muslim isn't the problem, being radical is.

How is one ideology at fault but the other is not?

One could just as easily say: "Being nationalist isn't the problem, being radical is."

[Tareldar]

In his manifesto he says he picked New Zealand because it was detached from the usual violence and terrorism.

He also says he hopes to spark a civil conflict in the United States by inspiring people to overturn the 2nd Amendment and seize rifles.

was this person a New Zealand citizen? I hope and pray there are not copycat attacks.

Australian, from what I've read.

[Kubra]

also, just saying, this manifesto is the most vain thing I've read in quite some time.

[Yusseria]

Based on the video I'd be surprised if fewer than 20 died. He went back in after shooting up the place and shot up the bodies huddled in the corners. It's bloody insane.

Is it confirmed there where fatalities because i have heard that has not corroborated

Yes.

Unfortunately, it appears there were many.

[Loben]

was this person a New Zealand citizen? I hope and pray there are not copycat attacks.

Australian, from what I've read.

so how did an Australian get his hands on a Armalite rifle when you have to basically sell your first born son just to have a surplus SMLE?

[The Black Party]

also, just saying, this manifesto is the most vain thing I've read in quite some time.

Could I get a link to that, bossman?

[Amuaplye]

also, just saying, this manifesto is the most vain thing I've read in quite some time.

At least it's original. Some others just copy and paste from Kaczynski's Industrial Society and Its Future.

[Ohioan Territory]

Hell I disagree with the Islamic faith on a ton of occasions as a religion and with the general cultural aspects it's brought, but to commit acts of violence against them is just flat out wrong in every sense. I'll be praying for the victims & families.

Okay, it shouldn't matter that you disagree with the tenets of Islam and dislike Islamic culture. The victims of this terror attack lived in New fucking Zealand. They were probably pretty moderate people.

Either way, you shouldn't need to clarify your dislike for Islam before you say you feel bad about what happened. Seriously. This transcends whatever ideological disagreement you have with Muslims.

[Yusseria]

Australian, from what I've read.

so how did an Australian get his hands on a Armalite rifle when you have to basically sell your first born son just to have a surplus SMLE?

Apparently New Zealand has some lax gun laws.

[Amuaplye]

also, just saying, this manifesto is the most vain thing I've read in quite some time.

Could I get a link to that, bossman?

Manifesto

[Yusseria]

Tempted to find the video but honestly I don't think I have the stomach for it right now.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You know the sad part is that I don't feel as "sad". Idk if that's the right word, bit it's like I'm not surprised that this happened.

[Loben]

so how did an Australian get his hands on a Armalite rifle when you have to basically sell your first born son just to have a surplus SMLE?

Apparently New Zealand has some lax gun laws.

an australian citizen can buy guns easily in new zealand?

[Bombadil]

Being white isn't the problem, nationalism is.. being Muslim isn't the problem, being radical is.

How is one ideology at fault but the other is not?

One could just as easily say: "Being nationalist isn't the problem, being radical is."

Possibly.. I might nuance the difference between being proud of one's nation, patriotism and then nationalism as a more distinct thing.. but yes, radical beliefs are the problem and I guess my point is that we're in a world where such radicalism crosses borders very easily whereas solutions do not.. especially in a world where nations are closing doors.

[Nantoraka]

Unrelated to the victims, but people on Twitter and the media have already been jumping on PewdiePie for apparently being "white supremacist" and "supporting the massacres" because of this dude. Christ.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Tempted to find the video but honestly I don't think I have the stomach for it right now.

Unless you're morbid and wanna watch an easy 20+ people die at pretty close range I'd stay away.

[Amuaplye]

You know the sad part is that I don't feel as "sad". Idk if that's the right word, bit it's like I'm not surprised that this happened.

Probably because this has been a commonplace thing for years.

[Kubra]

also, just saying, this manifesto is the most vain thing I've read in quite some time.

At least it's original. Some others just copy and paste from Kaczynski's Industrial Society and Its Future.

Hey, folks can say what they will about Kacynski, he was a good manifesto writer. No need to reinvent the wheel, y'know?

[Costa Fierro]

Is there any info on the Police response?

I want to know what the police has done to intervene, if anything? Did they wait for the National Guard or something?

Police have most of central Christchurch in lockdown, Armed Offenders Squads are deployed (NZ's SWAT). One shooter confirmed in custody, another possible. No National Guard here.