50 Dead After New Zealand Terrorist Attack

[Vassenor]

Well, I'm back from my 1-day ban.

Anyway, anybody else heard of that awesome young dude who egged Fraser Anning, the Australian senator who blamed the victims for their own deaths?

I hadn't, actually, until now.

[Liriena]

Well, I'm back from my 1-day ban.

Anyway, anybody else heard of that awesome young dude who egged Fraser Anning, the Australian senator who blamed the victims for their own deaths?

Didn’t the kid get a beat down though?

Beat down, choked out and kicked. Anning's nazi buddies loved an opportunity to pretend they're alpha males. The good news is that all charges against the kid were dropped.

[Uxupox]

Didn’t the kid get a beat down though?

Beat down, choked out and kicked. Anning's nazi buddies loved an opportunity to pretend they're alpha males. The good news is that all charges against the kid were dropped.

I mean the politician said some stupid shit and was an asshole but the kid also did some stupid behavior lol.

[Liriena]

Well, I'm back from my 1-day ban.

Anyway, anybody else heard of that awesome young dude who egged Fraser Anning, the Australian senator who blamed the victims for their own deaths?

I hadn't, actually, until now.

I'm getting you a link.

I wanna marry that guy. Braver than the troops o7

[Liriena]

Beat down, choked out and kicked. Anning's nazi buddies loved an opportunity to pretend they're alpha males. The good news is that all charges against the kid were dropped.

I mean the politician said some stupid shit and was an asshole but the kid also did some stupid behavior lol.

Nah, egging politicians is good and should happen more often. I also endorse throwing flour, milk or oil at them.

[Uxupox]

I mean the politician said some stupid shit and was an asshole but the kid also did some stupid behavior lol.

Nah, egging politicians is good and should happen more often. I also endorse throwing flour, milk or oil at them.

Sure but they shouldn’t complain when they get a beat down by their guards.

[San Lumen]

I mean the politician said some stupid shit and was an asshole but the kid also did some stupid behavior lol.

Nah, egging politicians is good and should happen more often. I also endorse throwing flour, milk or oil at them.

it could technically qualify as assault

[Andsed]

I mean the politician said some stupid shit and was an asshole but the kid also did some stupid behavior lol.

Nah, egging politicians is good and should happen more often. I also endorse throwing flour, milk or oil at them.

I disagree. Protesting a politician is fine but throwing shit at them is taking it to far.

[Liriena]

Nah, egging politicians is good and should happen more often. I also endorse throwing flour, milk or oil at them.

I disagree. Protesting a politician is fine but throwing shit at them is taking it to far.

It's an egg, no a molotov cocktail. The worst thing an egg can do is make you need a shower.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I disagree. Protesting a politician is fine but throwing shit at them is taking it to far.

It's an egg, no a molotov cocktail. The worst thing an egg can do is make you need a shower.

Until of course he is hospitalized for having an allergic reaction.

[Caracasus]

Nah, egging politicians is good and should happen more often. I also endorse throwing flour, milk or oil at them.

I disagree. Protesting a politician is fine but throwing shit at them is taking it to far.

What kind of shit?

[Andsed]

I disagree. Protesting a politician is fine but throwing shit at them is taking it to far.

What kind of shit?

Anything really. Unless this person is currently going full Hitler or Stalin there is no need for violence.

[Tareldar]

Dozens dead

but many could have survived, had not the police prevented paramedics from treating the wounded.

We have the word "iatrogenic" to describe deahts caused by, rather than in spite of, medical care.

We need a similar word to describe deaths caused by rather than in spite of police action

Did you watch the video? The killer goes back into the building and starts shooting people lying on the ground in puddles of blood in their heads.

Paramedics weren't going to save them.

[CrvenaParsa]

I guess this is, and i hate to say it, just you reap what you sow. Six of the victims come from Pakistan, a country where the destruction of Christian/Ahmadiyya places of worship is practically a sport, and where attacks on members of said groups are common. That is just one example of such attacks in Muslim (But interestingly those with a Sunni majority) countries. Unlike in the New Zealand case where the police apprehended the attacker, the police in many muslim countries either don't investigate or stop attacks against minorities, or actively participate in the persecution. The same issue crept up in the Synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where attacks and persecution against Christians in Israel are common. My point is that what happened in Christchurch is no different from what Muslims do to the minorities in their countries EVERYDAY. And before any of you say it is a minority of Muslims who commit/support such acts it is not. A study was done in 2012 in Pakistan that concluded only 7% of Pakistanis actually consider Ahmadis to be Muslim, the rest consider them Apostates of Islam.

[Andsed]

I guess this is, and i hate to say it, just you reap what you sow. Six of the victims come from Pakistan, a country where the destruction of Christian/Ahmadiyya places of worship is practically a sport, and where attacks on members of said groups are common. That is just one example of such attacks in Muslim (But interestingly those with a Sunni majority) countries. Unlike in the New Zealand case where the police apprehended the attacker, the police in many muslim countries either don't investigate or stop attacks against minorities, or actively participate in the persecution. The same issue crept up in the Synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where attacks and persecution against Christians in Israel are common. My point is that what happened in Christchurch is no different from what Muslims do to the minorities in their countries EVERYDAY. And before any of you say it is a minority of Muslims who commit/support such acts it is not. A study was done in 2012 in Pakistan that concluded only 7% of Pakistanis actually consider Ahmadis to be Muslim, the rest consider them Apostates of Islam.

Uh no that is utter bullshit. The people who killed here were innocent period. People are not responsible for what others of their race or religion do.

[Len Hyet]

I guess this is, and i hate to say it, just you reap what you sow. Six of the victims come from Pakistan, a country where the destruction of Christian/Ahmadiyya places of worship is practically a sport, and where attacks on members of said groups are common. That is just one example of such attacks in Muslim (But interestingly those with a Sunni majority) countries. Unlike in the New Zealand case where the police apprehended the attacker, the police in many muslim countries either don't investigate or stop attacks against minorities, or actively participate in the persecution. The same issue crept up in the Synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where attacks and persecution against Christians in Israel are common. My point is that what happened in Christchurch is no different from what Muslims do to the minorities in their countries EVERYDAY. And before any of you say it is a minority of Muslims who commit/support such acts it is not. A study was done in 2012 in Pakistan that concluded only 7% of Pakistanis actually consider Ahmadis to be Muslim, the rest consider them Apostates of Islam.

You are almost impressively full of it.

[Skylus]

I guess this is, and i hate to say it, just you reap what you sow. Six of the victims come from Pakistan, a country where the destruction of Christian/Ahmadiyya places of worship is practically a sport, and where attacks on members of said groups are common. That is just one example of such attacks in Muslim (But interestingly those with a Sunni majority) countries. Unlike in the New Zealand case where the police apprehended the attacker, the police in many muslim countries either don't investigate or stop attacks against minorities, or actively participate in the persecution. The same issue crept up in the Synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where attacks and persecution against Christians in Israel are common. My point is that what happened in Christchurch is no different from what Muslims do to the minorities in their countries EVERYDAY. And before any of you say it is a minority of Muslims who commit/support such acts it is not. A study was done in 2012 in Pakistan that concluded only 7% of Pakistanis actually consider Ahmadis to be Muslim, the rest consider them Apostates of Islam.

[Skylus]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-zeala ... -1.5059407

"When gunman advanced on New Zealand mosque, this man ran At Him: Abdul Aziz, 48, is being hailed as a hero for preventing more deaths"
The other guy who ran at him survived.

[Andsed]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-zealand-mosque-attack-survivor-1.5059407

"When gunman advanced on New Zealand mosque, this man ran At Him: Abdul Aziz, 48, is being hailed as a hero for preventing more deaths"
The other guy who ran at him survived.

Damm how did this guy run with balls so large? But seriously this man is a hero plain and simple.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-zealand-mosque-attack-survivor-1.5059407

"When gunman advanced on New Zealand mosque, this man ran At Him: Abdul Aziz, 48, is being hailed as a hero for preventing more deaths"
The other guy who ran at him survived.

Damm how did this guy run with balls so large? But seriously this man is a hero plain and simple.

Well, not wanting to fucking die is arguably one of the strongest motivators out there.

[The Grims]

I guess this is, and i hate to say it, just you reap what you sow. Six of the victims come from Pakistan, a country where the destruction of Christian/Ahmadiyya places of worship is practically a sport, and where attacks on members of said groups are common. That is just one example of such attacks in Muslim (But interestingly those with a Sunni majority) countries. Unlike in the New Zealand case where the police apprehended the attacker, the police in many muslim countries either don't investigate or stop attacks against minorities, or actively participate in the persecution. The same issue crept up in the Synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where attacks and persecution against Christians in Israel are common. My point is that what happened in Christchurch is no different from what Muslims do to the minorities in their countries EVERYDAY. And before any of you say it is a minority of Muslims who commit/support such acts it is not. A study was done in 2012 in Pakistan that concluded only 7% of Pakistanis actually consider Ahmadis to be Muslim, the rest consider them Apostates of Islam.

Some people believe that "not actively opposing actions done by strangers in a farwaway place who claim to share your faith" and "deserving to be shot in the head repeatedly" are not the same thing.

I see you are not one of these people.

[Andsed]

Damm how did this guy run with balls so large? But seriously this man is a hero plain and simple.

Well, not wanting to fucking die is arguably one of the strongest motivators out there.

I mean yeah but it still takes some major bravery to confront an active gunman with only credit card machine.

[Zizou]

Well, not wanting to fucking die is arguably one of the strongest motivators out there.

I mean yeah but it still takes some major bravery to confront an active gunman with only credit card machine.

Oh, I didn't know he had a credit card machine while he was charging him

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Well, not wanting to fucking die is arguably one of the strongest motivators out there.

I mean yeah but it still takes some major bravery to confront an active gunman with only credit card machine.

Well, it is die or die trying to overpower him in the hopes that the one in a million chance of surviving aligns in your favour.

The man did the right choice.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I think that out of anybody on these forums, I can claim to be the most prominent far rightist. With that said, and this is my honest advice, the best way to respond to this is to do nothing as the default. A crackdown, like some advocate, or even a death penalty plays right into the the thought process that drove this attack. They want martyrs and they want further polarization to piss off others and thus create more incidents like this. History has proven that you can break up Leftists far easier than Rightists because the Right has a better understanding of violence, and a deeper sense of purpose than the Left in many ways. Just ignore it or, even better, listen to some of the points made; reduce immigration intakes and go about adopting laws to force assimilation of those already here.

You're asking for appeasement. And I don't really care if the far-right is looking for martyrs, if the terrorist is getting the death penalty, then so be it.

Ah yes because we've been so successful at stopping the spread of jihadist content over the past decade >.>

You don't need to stop jihadist content, that's khayr (good).

Internet-borne right-wing violence is not as mature as violent jihadism yet.

Nor are they the same thing.

Someone who posts fantasies about race wars and hints (if not outright says) that they'd be happy to see people killed like this should be on a watch list, and should sure as hell not be able to travel to a different country, buy a bunch of weapons, pre-announce and then livestream a terrorist attack without being bothered by security services the whole time. If some jihadist did the same thing

He/she wouldn't tho, that's why they're called "jihadists".

Censorship starts with censoring the right things (jihadist vids)

No.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-zealand-mosque-attack-survivor-1.5059407

"When gunman advanced on New Zealand mosque, this man ran At Him: Abdul Aziz, 48, is being hailed as a hero for preventing more deaths"
The other guy who ran at him survived.

May Allah SWT bless him, aameen.