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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:11 am

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Eternal Lotharia wrote:Memes aren't the cause...yet. We need to study, maybe it influenced him. I'm just horrified by their memes.

And, well, I can't be friends with potential shooters like these or supporters of shooters like these can I?

It's immoral.

But yes, I recognize how extreme that reaction is, so will consider it before I make a choice.

Do you not see what you're doing? You're becoming the very thing you sought to destroy. Literally. This man shot up a Mosque because he was convinced the actions of a few Muslims represented the majority. Now you are literally doing the same with you so called "friends".

Memes have always been horrific. Bad things and bad people have existed before this attack. This isn't the nail that broke the Camel's back or whatever, that Meme's all of a sudden need to be studied.

Given that far right extremists have been openly using "memes" as a way to recruit vulnerable, mediocre dorks... yeah, actually, they do need to be studied.
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Postby The Black Party » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:11 am

Torrocca wrote:Of course it was a bunch of far-right extremists doing this. It's almost entirely always them.

My condolences go out to the survivors and the families of all the victims, dead or alive.

Yes, terrorist attacks motivated by far-right ideology is almost, if not, always committed by those who identify with the far-right. Newsflash.

Unless you are suggesting terrorism in general is almost always committed by the far-right, in which case, that is wrong.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:11 am

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I'd say accomplices. They would definitely be brought before the courts with a range of charges against them.


Perhaps, I guess planting multiple IEDs and then shooting up two mosques, might make sense to have accomplices to carry it all out but he doesn't seem to suggest anyone else in all his rantings.. and seems odd that he found two people to assist.

I strongly suspect he did this alone and the other two will be, like, housemates or something. I remember earlier how the police converged on this particular road or housing area.

People where killed st two different locations far apart from eachother. There’s no way he didn’t have help.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:11 am

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I wanna say it's nothing and people are just on edge but who knows at this point.


It's only a scare resulting to perceived suspicious bags at this point, but it wouldn't surprise me that something could happen given that Britomart is the central hub of Auckland's public transport system.

Bombadil wrote:Perhaps, I guess planting multiple IEDs and then shooting up two mosques, might make sense to have accomplices to carry it all out but he doesn't seem to suggest anyone else in all his rantings.. and seems odd that he found two people to assist.


I don't think that it's odd. Christchurch has a reputation in New Zealand for being white supremacist central.

I strongly suspect he did this alone and the other two will be, like, housemates or something. I remember earlier how the police converged on this particular road or housing area.


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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:12 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:He killed 40 people, said white supremacist stuff in his livestream, and wrote stuff referring to Muslim/Christian historical clashes on his weapons and gear. That manifesto is something worth looking at.

Again, accelerationism... I guess im just afraid that these fuckers and others are going to fuel the fire here in America and the rest of the world... It pisses me off, I guess


I wonder when the powder keg’s gonna finally blow up.

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Postby Bombadil » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:12 am

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I wanna say it's nothing and people are just on edge but who knows at this point.


New Zealand police have conducted a controlled detonation at Auckland’s largest train station, the Britomart Transport Centre.

The bomb squad attended the station 40 minutes ago, and cordoned off the area. Just minutes ago an explosion was heard. Authorities told local media it was a controlled detonation.


Doesn't necessarily it was a bomb over a suspicious package.
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Postby The Black Party » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:12 am

Liriena wrote:Given that far right extremists have been openly using "memes" as a way to recruit vulnerable, mediocre dorks... yeah, actually, they do need to be studied.

Meme's have never needed to be examined until this very point in which a particularly carefree terrorist decided to meme up his act of terror. Whatever go's, I guess.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:12 am

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Liriena wrote:Shh, baby, don't use big words if you can't put some weight behind them. And specially not after making white terrorism apologia your #1 hot take for a thread about a white terrorist attack which killed dozens of innocent Muslims.


What reality are you living in?

The one where "Muslims are to blame for dying in white supremacists terrorist attacks" is a stupid take.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:12 am

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The Black Party wrote:Do you not see what you're doing? You're becoming the very thing you sought to destroy. Literally. This man shot up a Mosque because he was convinced the actions of a few Muslims represented the majority. Now you are literally doing the same with you so called "friends".

Memes have always been horrific. Bad things and bad people have existed before this attack. This isn't the nail that broke the Camel's back or whatever, that Meme's all of a sudden need to be studied.

Given that far right extremists have been openly using "memes" as a way to recruit vulnerable, mediocre dorks... yeah, actually, they do need to be studied.

Study memes? lmao.... Ebic
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Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Again, accelerationism... I guess im just afraid that these fuckers and others are going to fuel the fire here in America and the rest of the world... It pisses me off, I guess


I wonder when the powder keg’s gonna finally blow up.

Hopefully not anytime soon
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:13 am

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Torrocca wrote:Of course it was a bunch of far-right extremists doing this. It's almost entirely always them.

My condolences go out to the survivors and the families of all the victims, dead or alive.

And that is what im talking about, keep pushing that narrative...


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Torrocca wrote:Of course it was a bunch of far-right extremists doing this. It's almost entirely always them.

My condolences go out to the survivors and the families of all the victims, dead or alive.

Yes, terrorist attacks motivated by far-right ideology is almost, if not, always committed by those who identify with the far-right. Newsflash.

Unless you are suggesting terrorism in general is almost always committed by the far-right, in which case, that is wrong.


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:13 am

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I wanna say it's nothing and people are just on edge but who knows at this point.


New Zealand police have conducted a controlled detonation at Auckland’s largest train station, the Britomart Transport Centre.

The bomb squad attended the station 40 minutes ago, and cordoned off the area. Just minutes ago an explosion was heard. Authorities told local media it was a controlled detonation.


Doesn't necessarily it was a bomb over a suspicious package.

Thank god it was nothing
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Postby Bombadil » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:13 am

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Perhaps, I guess planting multiple IEDs and then shooting up two mosques, might make sense to have accomplices to carry it all out but he doesn't seem to suggest anyone else in all his rantings.. and seems odd that he found two people to assist.

I strongly suspect he did this alone and the other two will be, like, housemates or something. I remember earlier how the police converged on this particular road or housing area.

People where killed st two different locations far apart from eachother. There’s no way he didn’t have help.


He was on the run for some time..he specifically mentioned those two mosques as targets - just from his manifesto it seemed very much all about him.

Anyway, we'll see.. somehow it feels worse to me if it was coordinated among a group over just one crazy asshole.
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Postby The Black Party » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:14 am

Liriena wrote:The one where "Muslims are to blame for dying in white supremacists terrorist attacks" is a stupid take.

Mate, Nobody here is suggesting that.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:14 am

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
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I wonder when the powder keg’s gonna finally blow up.

Hopefully not anytime soon


And when it will, oh boy is it gonna be hell on Earth.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:14 am

Torrocca wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:And that is what im talking about, keep pushing that narrative...


The Black Party wrote:Yes, terrorist attacks motivated by far-right ideology is almost, if not, always committed by those who identify with the far-right. Newsflash.

Unless you are suggesting terrorism in general is almost always committed by the far-right, in which case, that is wrong.


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

No one's justifying this except WoodFriedPizzas. Also, pls don't politicize a massacre.
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Postby Yusseria » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:15 am

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So you’re racist now
Good to know

Shh, baby, don't use big words if you can't put some weight behind them. And specially not after making white terrorism apologia your #1 hot take for a thread about a white terrorist attack which killed dozens of innocent Muslims.

Ah, nice to see you're shitting up another thread with your discount leftypol-level memes. Even better when mixed in with the cringe, wannabe black sass. You're a pasty white dude probably wearing ripped skinny jeans and a "Bash Da Fash" t-shirt that you and your commie dork friends all have while sitting in your basement with tofu crumbs on your cheeks while you sip from your Starbucks coffee. And i can only imagine your 5'0, 82-pound physique. Perfectly suitable for the uncomfortable, creepy sexual comments you make when debating with people that perfectly encapsulates why people hate communists.

Go away.
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Postby Sapientia Et Bellum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:15 am

Torrocca wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:And that is what im talking about, keep pushing that narrative...


The Black Party wrote:Yes, terrorist attacks motivated by far-right ideology is almost, if not, always committed by those who identify with the far-right. Newsflash.

Unless you are suggesting terrorism in general is almost always committed by the far-right, in which case, that is wrong.


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

Lmao, how about the past hundred years of Islamic violence against the west? The left hasn't killed in forever because it hasn't been a relevant ideal for at least 30 some odd years
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Liriena wrote:Given that far right extremists have been openly using "memes" as a way to recruit vulnerable, mediocre dorks... yeah, actually, they do need to be studied.

Study memes? lmao.... Ebic

Well, when I say "study" what I actually mean is "bully anyone with a fashy weaboo avatar or a fashy pepe avatar until they log out for good".
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:15 am

Apparently 48 people in total are being treated for gunshot wounds at the moment, ranging from children to the elderly.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:15 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

No one's justifying this except WoodFriedPizzas. Also, pls don't politicize a massacre.


It was already politicized when the fucking killer and his cronies in question decided to make it so. They're far-right extremists and mass-murderers, the whole lot of them.
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Postby Amuaplye » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:16 am

From the way it looks, the Britomart explosion isn't connected.
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Postby Torrocca » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:16 am

Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:
Torrocca wrote:


How frequently have leftists committed mass-murder in the past five years? The past ten? Twenty? Fifty?

You guys have nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing left to justify this morally reprehensible, reactionary bullshit from the far-right that keeps leading to these massacres. Nothing at all.

Lmao, how about the past hundred years of Islamic violence against the west? The left hasn't killed in forever because it hasn't been a relevant ideal for at least 30 some odd years


You mean far-right extremists of a different religious faith?

Thanks for backing me up on this one. Glad to know you agree that the far-right is morally reprehensible.
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Liriena wrote:
Sapientia Et Bellum wrote:Study memes? lmao.... Ebic

Well, when I say "study" what I actually mean is "bully anyone with a fashy weaboo avatar or a fashy pepe avatar until they log out for good".
Wow, its like you think that actually hurt my feeling lmao
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Postby Liriena » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:17 am

Yusseria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Shh, baby, don't use big words if you can't put some weight behind them. And specially not after making white terrorism apologia your #1 hot take for a thread about a white terrorist attack which killed dozens of innocent Muslims.

Ah, nice to see you're shitting up another thread with your discount leftypol-level memes. Even better when mixed in with the cringe, wannabe black sass. You're a pasty white dude probably wearing ripped skinny jeans and a "Bash Da Fash" t-shirt that you and your commie dork friends all have while sitting in your basement with tofu crumbs on your cheeks while you sip from your Starbucks coffee. And i can only imagine your 5'0, 82-pound physique. Perfectly suitable for the uncomfortable, creepy sexual comments you make when debating with people that perfectly encapsulates why people hate communists.

Go away.

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