50 Dead After New Zealand Terrorist Attack

[The Black Party]

Central Christchurch is close to deserted. The few people walking around look dazed. Parks, thoroughfares and usually crowded inner city streets have fallen silent.

Strangers are gathering in pubs and on street corners, asking each other if they are OK and talking through how and when they will get home and get their children.

What a shitty day..

I don't know how policing in NZ works, but if I had a say, the roads would be deserted as battalions of heavily armed, police tactical units kept the street on lockdown. I hear there was still a threat of a follow-up attack?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

About that video, anyone posting a link to it is going to be gone for at least a day, possibly longer. If you must watch it, go find it yourself. Do not post a link here.

Understood. I won't talk about the video or the sources anymore.

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With that said, I hope this does not derail too much as well, but I feel like there is a question or two I can ask here on-topic: I know this is more or less an isolated case, and does not happen in NZ too much, but will this mean that a tighter gun control or licensing will take place? I know it's a common trope to suggest restricting guns after a shootout like this, but it's obvious that the man is suffering from ultra-violent tendencies.

I am aware of the responsible gun owners around the world, especially in NZ, but surely we must do something to restrict someone like him to get the guns? Will a background check work?

I think deradiclaization would work better. And dialogue.

[Cerinda]

Neo-Nazis make me cringe.

[Forsher]

I am aware of the responsible gun owners around the world, especially in NZ, but surely we must do something to restrict someone like him to get the guns? Will a background check work?

In New Zealand you need a firearm's licence to have guns for any purpose.

If it's been proposed for the US... imagine it exists here.

[Bombadil]

While we have no confirmation from police beyond “multiple fatalities”, New Zealand media have consistently been reporting unconfirmed estimates that fatalities are between 9 and 30, with 40 people injured.

We will update with the latest confirmed figures as soon as they are available.

[Alanis Star]

I think deradiclaization would work better. And dialogue.

Ahh, of course. I understand fully that talking it out and accepting one another is a step in the right direction, but with that said, there will unfortunately always be someone who resorts to violence.

I am aware of the responsible gun owners around the world, especially in NZ, but surely we must do something to restrict someone like him to get the guns? Will a background check work?

In New Zealand you need a firearm's licence to have guns for any purpose.

If it's been proposed for the US... imagine it exists here.

Hmm, I see.

[Amuaplye]

Exactly. And the question is... why haven't we done something except sending "thoughts and prayers", and then not doing anything? Is it because of some pro-2nd Amendment bigwigs? Probably.

You're not talking about the crapfest that is American government... you're talking about a political system which is a cult of personality away from a dictatorship (and, indeed, the current government has enacted -- controversial -- legislation to increase its power), where the closest thing to the "2nd Amendment" is a constitutional principle/the notion that parliament (who are effectively puppets of the government) can do literally anything. (In theory Theresa May's troubles with parliament should be able to happen here but there are a whole bunch of practical reasons which suggest they wouldn't.)

Oh... and it's a leftwing government propped up by a party that sits even further to the left and another party who will do and say literally anything in the name of (even temporary) vote winning, but to the extent it's not called populist is generally characterised as Muldoonist conservatism (i.e. big government conservatism).

That being said, I'm not sure what could be done moving forwards here other than feeling sad. NZ's had plenty of spying controversies and has vastly stricter gun legislation than the US and there's vastly less regionalism (literally, you vote for a council whose powers are dictated by parliament... and you vote for parliament... and there are no other state apparatus).

Forgot about that. (Primarily because I'm used to stuff like this happening in the US.)

[Liriena]

Candace Owens is having a very ugly meltdown because of the shooter explicitly citing her as his main inspiration.

Who?

One of TPUSA's token black grifters.

[The Black Party]

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Neo-Nazis make me cringe.

More scary then cringe. This guy just injured some 40 people. I'd be terrified.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You're not talking about the crapfest that is American government... you're talking about a political system which is a cult of personality away from a dictatorship (and, indeed, the current government has enacted -- controversial -- legislation to increase its power), where the closest thing to the "2nd Amendment" is a constitutional principle/the notion that parliament (who are effectively puppets of the government) can do literally anything. (In theory Theresa May's troubles with parliament should be able to happen here but there are a whole bunch of practical reasons which suggest they wouldn't.)

Oh... and it's a leftwing government propped up by a party that sits even further to the left and another party who will do and say literally anything in the name of (even temporary) vote winning, but to the extent it's not called populist is generally characterised as Muldoonist conservatism (i.e. big government conservatism).

That being said, I'm not sure what could be done moving forwards here other than feeling sad. NZ's had plenty of spying controversies and has vastly stricter gun legislation than the US and there's vastly less regionalism (literally, you vote for a council whose powers are dictated by parliament... and you vote for parliament... and there are no other state apparatus).

Forgot about that. (Primarily because I'm used to stuff like this happening in the US.)

Tbh this does sound like something that would happen in America.

[Liriena]

While we have no confirmation from police beyond “multiple fatalities”, New Zealand media have consistently been reporting unconfirmed estimates that fatalities are between 9 and 30, with 40 people injured.

We will update with the latest confirmed figures as soon as they are available.

God, I hope the dead and injured are as few as possible.

[United States of Devonta]

Just seen a post on twitter from Al-Jazeera, 3 male suspects and 1 female suspect arrested.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

While we have no confirmation from police beyond “multiple fatalities”, New Zealand media have consistently been reporting unconfirmed estimates that fatalities are between 9 and 30, with 40 people injured.

We will update with the latest confirmed figures as soon as they are available.

God, I hope the dead and injured are as few as possible.

Highly doubtful according to those who've seen the livestream.

[Amuaplye]

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Neo-Nazis make me cringe.

I don't know what the Doge of Venice has to do with modern Islam, New Zealand, or white supramacy. (It says Sebastiano Venier, the Doge from 1577-1578.)

[Washington Resistance Army]

While we have no confirmation from police beyond “multiple fatalities”, New Zealand media have consistently been reporting unconfirmed estimates that fatalities are between 9 and 30, with 40 people injured.

We will update with the latest confirmed figures as soon as they are available.

God, I hope the dead and injured are as few as possible.

It's gonna be pretty bad when it's all sad and done. Too avoid going into too much detail he was able to fire into largely stationary crowds.

[The Black Party]

I don't know what the Doge of Venice has to do with Islam. (It says Sebastiano Venier, the Doge from 1577-1578.)

He was a high-ranking participant at the Battle of Lepanto, where the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Christian/Catholic/Whatever Forces.

[Bombadil]

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Neo-Nazis make me cringe.

I don't know what the Doge of Venice has to do with modern Islam, New Zealand, or white supramacy. (It says Sebastiano Venier, the Doge from 1577-1578.)

The Battle of Lepanto, a naval battle where the Spanish and Venetians defeated the Ottomans, basically your white christian against the heathens lore.

I'm pretty sure all these memes are going to be huge fodder for the false flag community who will take all this as a means of demonising their heroes.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

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Neo-Nazis make me cringe.

I don't know what the Doge of Venice has to do with modern Islam, New Zealand, or white supramacy. (It says Sebastiano Venier, the Doge from 1577-1578.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastiano_Venier:

"In 1570 he was procurator of St Mark's and, in the December of the same year, capitano generale da Mar of the Venetian fleet in the new war against the Ottoman Turks.

He was the commander of the Venetian contingent at Battle of Lepanto (7 October 1571), in which the Christian League decisively defeated the Turks."

I guess this has something to do with it?

[Farnhamia]

I don't know what the Doge of Venice has to do with Islam. (It says Sebastiano Venier, the Doge from 1577-1578.)

He was a high-ranking participant at the Battle of Lepanto, where the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Christian/Catholic/Whatever Forces.

Why do people do "Christian/Catholic"? Catholics are Christians, the one term includes the other.

[Cerinda]

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Neo-Nazis make me cringe.

More scary then cringe. This guy just injured some 40 people. I'd be terrified.

What I meant is that he wore Black sun necklases and other Neo-Nazi symbols which I think is just cringey, although it had to be scary for the people he shot. I've also found pics of his rifle and magazines which I don't know if I'm allowed to post or not, it's not gory at all, in fact it seems to be take before the shootings on his twitter account.

[The Black Party]

He was a high-ranking participant at the Battle of Lepanto, where the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Christian/Catholic/Whatever Forces.

Why do people do "Christian/Catholic"? Catholics are Christians, the one term includes the other.

I just don't want to offend anyone. I'm sure if I use one when I mean the other, someone, somewhere, will go ballistic.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

More scary then cringe. This guy just injured some 40 people. I'd be terrified.

What I meant is that he wore Black sun necklases and other Neo-Nazi symbols which I think is just cringey, although it had to be scary for the people he shot. I've also found pics of his rifle and magazines which I don't know if I'm allowed to post or not, it's not gory at all, in fact it seems to be take before the shootings on his twitter account.

People have posted guns here before, I think it's ok. Just don't show any blood.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

He was a high-ranking participant at the Battle of Lepanto, where the Ottoman Empire was defeated by Christian/Catholic/Whatever Forces.

Why do people do "Christian/Catholic"? Catholics are Christians, the one term includes the other.

I've always wondered this as well.

[Creslonia]

There is now also activity in Dunedin:

A Dunedin street has been cordoned off and AOS are present after the Christchurch mosque shooter said in a manifesto published on social media earlier today that he originally planned to target Dunedin's Al Huda Mosque.

- Otago Daily Times

Police say that streets in Christchurch may remain cordoned for the rest of the month.

[Creslonia]

I live south of Christchurch and all local schools were put on lockdown.