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Postby Tareldar » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

Yusseria wrote:Tempted to find the video but honestly I don't think I have the stomach for it right now.

He starts out telling viewers to subscribe to Pewdiepie.

Not making it up.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

2 Christchurch mosques now...

The prime suspect is an Australia with a vendetor against Muslims. Apparently the Bangladeshi cricket team were preying in there, but managed to escape. Thoughts and preyers with the victims and their families. I hope the piece/s of shit responsible is/are to justice. The city is in lockdown
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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

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Yusseria wrote:How is one ideology at fault but the other is not?

One could just as easily say: "Being nationalist isn't the problem, being radical is."


Possibly.. I might nuance the difference between being proud of one's nation, patriotism and then nationalism as a more distinct thing.. but yes, radical beliefs are the problem and I guess my point is that we're in a world where such radicalism crosses borders very easily whereas solutions do not.. especially in a world where nations are closing doors.

Revolving doors, you mean.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You know the sad part is that I don't feel as "sad". Idk if that's the right word, bit it's like I'm not surprised that this happened.

Probably because this has been a commonplace thing for years.

But trust me, this time we'll vote for change! I can see the hashtags, #PrayForNZ now!
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

Nantoraka wrote:Unrelated to the victims, but people on Twitter and the media have already been jumping on PewdiePie for apparently being "white supremacist" and "supporting the massacres" because of this dude. Christ.

That's stupid and disgusting. They should be mourning, not accusing.
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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:43 pm

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Yusseria wrote:Tempted to find the video but honestly I don't think I have the stomach for it right now.


Unless you're morbid and wanna watch an easy 20+ people die at pretty close range I'd stay away.

Yeah... that's gonna be a big no from me. Poor people.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:44 pm

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Amuaplye wrote:Probably because this has been a commonplace thing for years.

But trust me, this time we'll vote for change!

I know you're being sarcastic, but I doubt it.

The cycle, for not only mass shootings, but any attack in general, is this:

Attack happens, people die -> "Thoughts and prayers" are sent -> Laws are drafted -> Lobbying prevents it from being passed -> Rinse and repeat
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:47 pm

So I guess it was just one guy?
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Postby Foxfound » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:47 pm

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Yusseria wrote:Kind of funny that nationalism's the problem when it's a white perpetrator, but Islam isn't when it's a Muslim terror attack.


Being white isn't the problem, nationalism is.. being Muslim isn't the problem, being radical is.

The problem isn't the entire concept of nationalism. It's the people who take the idea past just being proud of one's country to the point where they view any 'foreign' or 'outside' influence as unacceptable.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:47 pm

Salus Maior wrote:So I guess it was just one guy?


At this mosque yes.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:47 pm

Salus Maior wrote:So I guess it was just one guy?

They believe there's a 2nd shooter too.
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Postby Nantoraka » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:48 pm

Christ, look at his manifesto.

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I'm not gonna be finding memes funny for a week or so.

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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:48 pm

I had hoped New Zealand had seen it's last major mass shooting.

My thoughts are with the victims and their families. :(
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Postby Tareldar » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:49 pm

Nantoraka wrote:Christ, look at his manifesto.


I'm not gonna be finding memes funny for a week or so.

I assume he's being sarcastic. Or memes scrambled his brains.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:49 pm

Nantoraka wrote:Unrelated to the victims, but people on Twitter and the media have already been jumping on PewdiePie for apparently being "white supremacist" and "supporting the massacres" because of this dude. Christ.


Well, that's just stupid.
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Postby Amuaplye » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:50 pm

Tareldar wrote:
Nantoraka wrote:Christ, look at his manifesto.


I'm not gonna be finding memes funny for a week or so.

I assume he's being sarcastic. Or memes scrambled his brains.

There went my comment on him being original.
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Postby Yusseria » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:50 pm

Nantoraka wrote:Christ, look at his manifesto.


I'm not gonna be finding memes funny for a week or so.

How anyone can be so casual and lighthearted about killing so many people is thankfully beyond me.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:51 pm

The shooter was memeing until the end.

He wrote "For Alexandre Bissonette" on one of his magazines.

Christ, he was prepared.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:51 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Nantoraka wrote:Christ, look at his manifesto.


I'm not gonna be finding memes funny for a week or so.

How anyone can be so casual and lighthearted about killing so many people is thankfully beyond me.


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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:51 pm

Amuaplye wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:So I guess it was just one guy?

They believe there's a 2nd shooter too.


I suspect it's just the one, and he targeted two mosques per his manifesto.. then a car with a bomb - it's basically a variation on the Anders Breivik plan, a bomb to distract the police while you carry out a massacre.

Given how he cites Breivik as his inspiration..

Super sad for NZ, but this could happen anywhere. It's in no way a reflection on NZ.
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:52 pm

Was the gunman killed?
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Postby Woodfiredpizzas » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:52 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Kind of funny that nationalism's the problem when it's a white perpetrator, but Islam isn't when it's a Muslim terror attack.


Being white isn't the problem, nationalism is.. being Muslim isn't the problem, being radical is.


Being Muslim is the problem, they shouldn’t have been shot for existing though.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:53 pm

Well, that's fucked up. Thankfully they have one of the suspects in custody, so hopefully they catch the others.

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