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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Postby Husseinarti » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:06 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Husseinarti wrote:Yeah the 1950s were great. Living under the threat of nuclear war with the Soviet Union is so nice and cool. Maybe they will give you a discount on a fallout shelter!

That would be cool, I want a fallout shelter.

I don't want to live in a world were I actively need to prepare for the apocalypse.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:06 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Although Imperial Japan would be a better example (however heretical their gods were)


:eyebrow:
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:09 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:Although Imperial Japan would be a better example (however heretical their gods were)


:eyebrow:

I’m sorry if I’ve gotten this wrong, but I though Buddhism wasn’t the state religion of Japan in WW2.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:10 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
:eyebrow:

I’m sorry if I’ve gotten this wrong, but I though Buddhism wasn’t the state religion of Japan in WW2.


It wasn't, I have no clue what you mean by “heretical” though.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:10 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:The Nazis held certain concepts and people as high as a god, so you could say that they thought something along those lines. They also at one point thought they were unbeatable.

Although Imperial Japan would be a better example (however heretical their gods were, they had faith in divine military intervention) than Nazi Germany, which had no specific stance on which religion was theirs.

I still wanna know what proof you think you have of me wanting to destroy America.

You said so and religious fanatics are legally not allowed to use sarcasm.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:12 pm

Husseinarti wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:That would be cool, I want a fallout shelter.

I don't want to live in a world were I actively need to prepare for the apocalypse.


Considering the tiny size of Soviet nuclear forces in the 50s that was not going to happen.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear ... kpiles.svg

The Russians have FAR more nuclear weapons now the Soviets did in the 50s. And less shitty delivery systems.

Anyways it is not like the threat of nuclear war is gone now, and having something to unite people beats the post Cold War nihilistic infighting.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:13 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I still wanna know what proof you think you have of me wanting to destroy America.

You said so

Where?
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:and religious fanatics are legally not allowed to use sarcasm.

Good thing I'm not a fanatic.
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The Galactic Liberal Democracy
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:14 pm

Husseinarti wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:That would be cool, I want a fallout shelter.

I don't want to live in a world were I actively need to prepare for the apocalypse.

Too bad. This must be the wrong planet for you.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:16 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:You said so

Where?
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:and religious fanatics are legally not allowed to use sarcasm.

Good thing I'm not a fanatic.

If you want to murder or cripple people for not following your religious beliefs, you’re pretty close.
NOT STORMTROOPERS
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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United Muscovite Nations
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:17 pm

>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:18 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch

You need to give El-Amin a boost for supposedly having God on his side.
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:19 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch

You need to give El-Amin a boost for supposedly having God on his side.

While it is character-based, the combat system is army-based.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:19 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Where?

Good thing I'm not a fanatic.

If you want to murder or cripple people for not following your religious beliefs, you’re pretty close.

Good thing I don't want to murder nor maim people for not following my religious beliefs. You still haven't proven your claim.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:21 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch

That's pretty cool
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch

You need to give El-Amin a boost for supposedly having God on his side.

Dude why you gotta be a party pooper? :(
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Democracy and Freedom Index
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:21 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:If you want to murder or cripple people for not following your religious beliefs, you’re pretty close.

Good thing I don't want to murder nor maim people for not following my religious beliefs. You still haven't proven your claim.

Lashing people 80, 160, or whatever times and ‘snapping their necks’ is totally not anything that I listed, but okay. Remember how you said drinkers should be whipped?
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:22 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:You said so

Where?
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:and religious fanatics are legally not allowed to use sarcasm.

Good thing I'm not a fanatic.


Claiming your are not a fanatic does not make it so.
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Zombie Ike/Teddy Roosevelt 2020.

Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:24 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Dude why you gotta be a party pooper? :(

Didn’t you say the side you support has ‘raw god power’ or something along those lines?
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Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.

The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:42 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Good thing I don't want to murder nor maim people for not following my religious beliefs. You still haven't proven your claim.

Lashing people 80, 160, or whatever times and ‘snapping their necks’ is totally not anything that I listed, but okay. Remember how you said drinkers should be whipped?

Never said 160 nor snapping necks. And I know it's not anything you listed, that's why I didn't talk about it. Why are you bring other stuff and avoiding my question? In case you forgot here it is again:

Where is your proof stating that I want to destroy America?
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Democracy and Freedom Index
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:43 pm

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Dude why you gotta be a party pooper? :(

Didn’t you say the side you support has ‘raw god power’ or something along those lines?

Idk what that has to do with roleplay
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https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people

Democracy and Freedom Index
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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Postby Greater Westralia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:02 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch

Come on, you can't leave us hanging like this.

At least explain it in brief.
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:12 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?


I'd probably want to be a middle-class Roman living in Rome under the Empire at its height in the 2nd century. Perhaps I was in a past life, there's no other reason why I have an unusual passion for going to the gym and spending 1/4th of the time exercising and 3/4ths of the time rotating between the steam room, hot tub, sauna, and pool. Or sudatorium, caldarium, laconicum and natatorium. :)
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:12 pm

Greater Westralia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>tfw I've created a combat system for my RP idea from scratch

Come on, you can't leave us hanging like this.

At least explain it in brief.

A system for regulating the loyalty of troops, a system for organizing armies on a battlefield which can be simplified or complex depending on how you want to general your troops, as well as a system for deciding combats.

Here's a brief part that doesn't go into things like units and troop bonuses:

Each player gets to have an initial deployment, then they flip a coin for whose turn is first. Unopposed movement is automatically successful, but when ordering an attack, the attacking player must roll a D20. Below 5 is a critical failure (rout after one turn of combat), 5-9 is a failure (attacking unit loses 25% strength after one turn of combat, can reroll to attack with a malice to rolling value), 10 is an even combat (neither unit is weakened, combat is engaged but both units evenly matched). 11-15 is a successful combat (defending unit loses 25% strength, attacking unit rerolls next combat with bonus to rolling value), 16-20 is a critical success (defending unit routs after one turn of combat). When attempting to move past an opposing unit without engaging in combat, the other player may roll an intercepting attack before before their turn.

Attacks on the flank of a unit have a +5 bonus to their attacking roll, attacks on the rear of a unit have a +10 bonus to their attacking roll. This means that maneuver is important to combat.
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Postby Greater Westralia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:15 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:-snip-

Interesting, I commend you for handling combat with one d20 roll. How does deployment and maneuvering work?
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:24 pm

Greater Westralia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:-snip-

Interesting, I commend you for handling combat with one d20 roll. How does deployment and maneuvering work?

Deployment can happen on any side of the battlefield you're coming from, and you can deploy however you want. Maneuver, I figure, could be mostly free movement, until you're opposed, so you can move anywhere you want until the enemy army begins to oppose you, if you try to move *past* the enemy army (i.e. try to get behind), any free unit can intercept you by rolling to attack for free, or they can let you go and follow you. Maneuver could be very rapid fire until combat begins, and if a unit is able to break free of combat and maneuver freely during combat, that would be a major deciding factor in battle because it could attack flanks and the rear.
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Postby Greater Westralia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:26 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Deployment can happen on any side of the battlefield you're coming from, and you can deploy however you want. Maneuver, I figure, could be mostly free movement, until you're opposed, so you can move anywhere you want until the enemy army begins to oppose you, if you try to move *past* the enemy army (i.e. try to get behind), any free unit can intercept you by rolling to attack for free, or they can let you go and follow you. Maneuver could be very rapid fire until combat begins, and if a unit is able to break free of combat and maneuver freely during combat, that would be a major deciding factor in battle because it could attack flanks and the rear.

Is it map-based or free-form?

Also, excuse my curiosity, but what are your other systems that you name-dropped?
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