Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Wealthy Southern Planter, 1840s. Get Polk to annex Mexico, get Birmingham developed around 1850, invent germ theory/modern hygiene, etc.

Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

I said you wanted to destroy America, some people didn’t believe me. Now I have proof.

[The South Falls]

Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

I said you wanted to destroy America, some people didn’t believe me. Now I have proof.

I was about to say woooosh, but then...

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

Middle class American in 1950s in his early 20s, or upper class Parisian in Belle Epoque.

[The South Falls]

If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

Middle class American in 1950s in his early 20s, or upper class Parisian in Belle Epoque.

Gotta love that commie supression.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

Middle class American in 1950s in his early 20s, or upper class Parisian in Belle Epoque.

Gotta love that commie supression.

No that's just common sense.

Disclaimer: My comment may have been influenced by 1000 hours spent on Mafia 2.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

No that's just common sense.

Disclaimer: My comment may have been influenced by 1000 hours spent on Mafia 2.

That’s now mafia works.

[Free Arabian Nation]

If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

Rich American CEO about 3 seconds ago.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.

From what I remember, Muslims didn't end up conquering Europe, so pretty sure it wasn't “God power” as it was good circumstances and military tactics on the part of the Arabs. Defeating armies much larger than yours are impressive, but by no means proof of divine powers (see Napoleon, Emperor Meiji, etc.)

I didn't say anything about Europe...

Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

I said you wanted to destroy America, some people didn’t believe me. Now I have proof.

What are you talking about? And when did you say that I said that I wanted to destroy America? And how is some banter gonna prove that?

[Novus America]

Middle class American in 1950s in his early 20s, or upper class Parisian in Belle Epoque.

Gotta love that commie supression.

Indeed. It is delicious and nutritious.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

From what I remember, Muslims didn't end up conquering Europe, so pretty sure it wasn't “God power” as it was good circumstances and military tactics on the part of the Arabs. Defeating armies much larger than yours are impressive, but by no means proof of divine powers (see Napoleon, Emperor Meiji, etc.)

I didn't say anything about Europe...

I said you wanted to destroy America, some people didn’t believe me. Now I have proof.

What are you talking about? And when did you say that I said that I wanted to destroy America? And how is some banter gonna prove that?

Only American patriots can answer this question?

Yes, you won’t be wrecking America on my watch.

[Novus America]

You also had the advantage of two empires who underwent a disasterous war, and after that war was suffering 1/3 of its population dying off from famine, disease, and other factors.

I'm not aware of the disease stuff but we still fought armies twice our size and won.

Not always won.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... e_(674-678)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... e_(717-718)

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I'm not aware of the disease stuff but we still fought armies twice our size and won.

Not always won.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... nople_(674–678)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... nople_(717–718)

The Nazis won the Battle of Kiev, take that commies!
If there was an army that won every battle (out of a large number) that would be strange.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I didn't say anything about Europe...

What are you talking about? And when did you say that I said that I wanted to destroy America? And how is some banter gonna prove that?

Yes, you won’t be wrecking America on my watch.

What does this prove?

I'm not aware of the disease stuff but we still fought armies twice our size and won.

Not always won.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... e_(674-678)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... e_(717-718)

Well I was specifically referring to the battles during the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS.

[Free Arabian Nation]

What does this prove?

Not always won.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... e_(674-678)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... e_(717-718)

Well I was specifically referring to the battles during the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS.

This has nothing to do with God. Muhammad was just a power-hungry dictator.

He did, however, display the might and the superiority of the Arab people over those Indo-Europeans.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

He did, however, display the might and the superiority of the Arab people over those Indo-Europeans.

Those remarks are a bit aggressive. Mind toning it down?

[Novus America]

Not always won.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... nople_(674–678)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_o ... nople_(717–718)

The Nazis won the Battle of Kiev, take that commies!
If there was an army that won every battle (out of a large number) that would be strange.

Sure, but an Army that and all powerful God wants to win would.
Of course no such army ever existed.

Did anyone claim the Nazi scum had God on their side?
If the did they have to really start rethinking things.

[The South Falls]

Gotta love that commie supression.

No that's just common sense.

Disclaimer: My comment may have been influenced by 1000 hours spent on Mafia 2.

I mean, suppressing literally everyone.

[Hanafuridake]

From what I remember, Muslims didn't end up conquering Europe, so pretty sure it wasn't “God power” as it was good circumstances and military tactics on the part of the Arabs. Defeating armies much larger than yours are impressive, but by no means proof of divine powers (see Napoleon, Emperor Meiji, etc.)

I didn't say anything about Europe...

That wasn't my point. The Muslim army didn't go on to conquer the world, which puts a big hole in the claim that it was divinely mandated to win.

[Novus America]

No that's just common sense.

Disclaimer: My comment may have been influenced by 1000 hours spent on Mafia 2.

I mean, suppressing literally everyone.

In terms of civil rights there were serious issues in the 50s but they were better than any time prior and improving.
Suppressing everyone? Hardly.
The 50s were no perfect utopia, but were time of great improvement.

[Husseinarti]

Yeah the 1950s were great. Living under the threat of nuclear war with the Soviet Union is so nice and cool. Maybe they will give you a discount on a fallout shelter!

[Hanafuridake]

I am just saying the two prominent powers in the region weren't at their peak when Muhammad's successor came curb stomping out of the Arabian desert like a tidal wave. I would not have been surprised if both of those groups thought the world was literally ending.

Relevant:

Muslims can't meme.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I didn't say anything about Europe...

That wasn't my point. The Muslim army didn't go on to conquer the world, which puts a big hole in the claim that it was divinely mandated to win.

This isn't making sense. I wasn't talking about every battle between Daarul-Islaam (Land/Abode of Al-Islam) and Daarul-Kufr (Land/Abode of Kufr).

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Sure, but an Army that and all powerful God wants to win would.
Of course no such army ever existed.

Did anyone claim the Nazi scum had God on their side?
If the did they have to really start rethinking things.

The Nazis held certain concepts and people as high as a god, so you could say that they thought something along those lines. They also at one point thought they were unbeatable.

Although Imperial Japan would be a better example (however heretical their gods were, they had faith in divine military intervention) than Nazi Germany, which had no specific stance on which religion was theirs.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

Yeah the 1950s were great. Living under the threat of nuclear war with the Soviet Union is so nice and cool. Maybe they will give you a discount on a fallout shelter!

That would be cool, I want a fallout shelter.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Sure, but an Army that and all powerful God wants to win would.
Of course no such army ever existed.

Did anyone claim the Nazi scum had God on their side?
If the did they have to really start rethinking things.

The Nazis held certain concepts and people as high as a god, so you could say that they thought something along those lines. They also at one point thought they were unbeatable.

Although Imperial Japan would be a better example (however heretical their gods were, they had faith in divine military intervention) than Nazi Germany, which had no specific stance on which religion was theirs.

I still wanna know what proof you think you have of me wanting to destroy America.