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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:54 am

The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

Multi billionaire overlord of Antarctica who has generously paid employees.

Santa? :p

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:09 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

18th or 19th century English landed gentry.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:10 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?


Early Heisei period Japan upper-middle class so I could get my hands on some of the good anime before UMN's waifu (the other Rei) ruined it with moeblob.

Alternatively Kofun Japan as a member of the aristocracy so I could serve the ancient imperial court.
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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:45 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?


Any class? Maybe 2017 but be amongst the super rich.
If you are among the elite now is a good time if just looking at material conditions.

But 1950s upper class American would be good.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:46 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?


Wealthy Southern Planter, 1840s. Get Polk to annex Mexico, get Birmingham developed around 1850, invent germ theory/modern hygiene, etc.
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:50 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

A Prussian Junker just before WW1. I'd keep Wilhelm from making his continuous dumbass mistakes and getting America involved.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:05 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?


Wealthy Southern Planter, 1840s. Get Polk to annex Mexico, get Birmingham developed around 1850, invent germ theory/modern hygiene, etc.

Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Wealthy Southern Planter, 1840s. Get Polk to annex Mexico, get Birmingham developed around 1850, invent germ theory/modern hygiene, etc.

Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

This is how you end up on watchlists.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Wealthy Southern Planter, 1840s. Get Polk to annex Mexico, get Birmingham developed around 1850, invent germ theory/modern hygiene, etc.

Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

brb travelling back to the early 7th century to warn everyone about the Caliphate and cause an early first crusade ;)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:32 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

brb travelling back to the early 7th century to warn everyone about the Caliphate and cause an early first crusade ;)


A joint Roman-Persian smackdown of the Arabs would have been pretty glorious tbh
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El-Amin Caliphate
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:42 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hol up, I need to get my time machine and fight for Mexico (and maybe destroy America while I'm at it).

brb travelling back to the early 7th century to warn everyone about the Caliphate and cause an early first crusade ;)

>Warn everyone about the Khilaafah
Whomst? And besides we'll SalaHuddin the eff outta that crusade lol :p
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Postby Yusseria » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:brb travelling back to the early 7th century to warn everyone about the Caliphate and cause an early first crusade ;)


A joint Roman-Persian smackdown of the Arabs would have been pretty glorious tbh

I feel like Mecca should have been razed at some point in history.
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:44 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:brb travelling back to the early 7th century to warn everyone about the Caliphate and cause an early first crusade ;)

>Watn everyone about the Khilaafah
Whomst? And besides we'll SalaHuddin the eff outta that crusade lol :p

Raw numbers would win for the Christians around the time of Mohammed.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:45 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>Watn everyone about the Khilaafah
Whomst? And besides we'll SalaHuddin the eff outta that crusade lol :p

Raw numbers would win for the Christians around the time of Mohammed.

Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Benuty » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:47 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Raw numbers would win for the Christians around the time of Mohammed.

Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.

You also had the advantage of two empires who underwent a disasterous war, and after that war was suffering 1/3 of its population dying off from famine, disease, and other factors.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:48 pm

Benuty wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.

You also had the advantage of two empires who underwent a disasterous war, and after that war was suffering 1/3 of its population dying off from famine, disease, and other factors.

I'm not aware of the disease stuff but we still fought armies twice our size and won.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:48 pm

I am just saying the two prominent powers in the region weren't at their peak when Muhammad's successor came curb stomping out of the Arabian desert like a tidal wave. I would not have been surprised if both of those groups thought the world was literally ending.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:10 pm

Benuty wrote:I am just saying the two prominent powers in the region weren't at their peak when Muhammad's successor came curb stomping out of the Arabian desert like a tidal wave. I would not have been surprised if both of those groups thought the world was literally ending.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:16 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Raw numbers would win for the Christians around the time of Mohammed.

Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.


The ERE or the Sassanids could have easily crushed the Arabs had they not bankrupt and drained themselves of manpower fighting each other for the past bajillion years before they showed up.
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:18 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.


The ERE or the Sassanids could have easily crushed the Arabs had they not bankrupt and drained themselves of manpower fighting each other for the past bajillion years before they showed up.

No, you're just gonna have to accept the fact the Arabs are Racially Superior to you Euros and Iranians.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:18 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.


The ERE or the Sassanids could have easily crushed the Arabs had they not bankrupt and drained themselves of manpower fighting each other for the past bajillion years before they showed up.

The Sassanids couldn't be messed with, until mismanagement set in.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:48 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Raw numbers would win for the Christians around the time of Mohammed.

Raw God power would win for the Muslims around the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWS. Remember, we fought armies twice our size and won.


From what I remember, Muslims didn't end up conquering Europe, so pretty sure it wasn't “God power” as it was good circumstances and military tactics on the part of the Arabs. Defeating armies much larger than yours are impressive, but by no means proof of divine powers (see Napoleon, Emperor Meiji, etc.)
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Postby Greater Westralia » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:07 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:If you could go back in time and live in any country as a member of any social class, which would you pick?

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Postby Husseinarti » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:11 pm

Yusseria wrote:Lads, nothing will make you appreciate Westerm civilization quite like visiting Rome.


Rome is cool but its overrated.

Rome died because it had a trash government. Much to the surprise of everyone, having a civil war every five minutes is bad.

Having your army sell your seats of governmemt is bad.

The look of rome is cool, the aesthetic is cool. Classical Latin is super cool.

The omly thing I think when I see Rome is a template to not use.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:12 pm

Free Arabian Nation wrote:No, you're just gonna have to accept the fact the Arabs are Racially Superior to you Euros and Iranians.

I’m gonna have to surrender and admit they are good at fighting.
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