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To what ethical philosophy do you subscribe?

Ethical Egoism
12
11%
Act Utilitarianism
7
6%
Rule Utilitarianism
7
6%
Kantian Ethics
6
5%
Virtue Ethics
19
17%
Nihilism/YOLO
18
16%
Radical Subjectivism
2
2%
Cultural Relativism
3
3%
Divine Command Theory
18
16%
Natural Law Theory
20
18%
 
Total votes : 112

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Germanic Templars
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:58 pm

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You mean Abe?

St. Abe, you mean.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:02 pm

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Germanic Templars wrote:
Banning anime would have been a crime of its own.


No, I'm pretty sure it would be one of the best things ever.

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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:33 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Well, yes, I think a lot of people understand that. Which is why people endorse things like sports clubs and such.

I think a lot of people don't understand that, unfortunately. :(


Although, I don't like the idea of legitimizing gangs. I'd much rather get at risk youth involved in other kinds of social groups that are more constructive.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:36 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I think a lot of people don't understand that, unfortunately. :(


Although, I don't like the idea of legitimizing gangs. I'd much rather get at risk youth involved in other kinds of social groups that are more constructive.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree entirely.
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Postby Lower Negev » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:30 pm

New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:34 pm

Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.


Can never have enough dakka.

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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:38 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.


Can never have enough dakka.


The libertarian cries that anything short of recreational nuclear devices and home defense surface-to-air missile is dictatorial ebul gun control is effing retarded though.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:38 pm

Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

Agreed, but you shouldn't own military-gradd weapons. Also, using the 2nd amendment to get one's hands on as many guns as possible is greedy and petty.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:38 pm

Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

bare your arms all you want (the farmer's tan is a scourge), please let the professionals handle the guns tho lol
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Postby Lower Negev » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:42 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

bare your arms all you want (the farmer's tan is a scourge), please let the professionals handle the guns tho lol


Ive been shooting since my grandfather took me out when I was barely old enough to read. I'd say I am a lot more professional than some of these doofus security contractors running around now or a marine fresh out of basic.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:45 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

Agreed, but you shouldn't own military-gradd weapons. Also, using the 2nd amendment to get one's hands on as many guns as possible is greedy and petty.


Nah, I like being able to own a tank, or at least file my way through paperwork w/ ATF to allow the ability to own a tank w/ working cannon.

And hardly greedy since guns are never short in stock. Then again, I own at least 5, working my way to 7 guns. Maybe more. All I can say is I am happy that 37mm grenade launcher are not regulated by ATF, only the ammunition, assuming it is the lethal rounds - CS gas and rubber shots are fair game.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:04 pm

Lower Negev wrote:
Senkaku wrote:bare your arms all you want (the farmer's tan is a scourge), please let the professionals handle the guns tho lol


Ive been shooting since my grandfather took me out when I was barely old enough to read. I'd say I am a lot more professional than some of these doofus security contractors running around now or a marine fresh out of basic.

.....doubtful.

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Postby Lower Negev » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:07 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:
Ive been shooting since my grandfather took me out when I was barely old enough to read. I'd say I am a lot more professional than some of these doofus security contractors running around now or a marine fresh out of basic.

.....doubtful.


Ha, maybe you've befriended different ex-Marines than I have.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:27 pm

Lower Negev wrote:
Genivaria wrote:.....doubtful.


Ha, maybe you've befriended different ex-Marines than I have.


Have to agree with Geni on that one. Personal ancedotals =/= truth.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:28 pm

Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.


People these days think that supporting gun rights is conservative. But in the old days only the nobility was allowed to own weapons, and weapons were forbidden for common folk. And I agree that weapon ownership should be more limited. Indeed, I would not object to the idea that only the government should own guns. Furthermore, I think that these newfangled fire-arms are overrated and that people ought to go back to using bows and arrows or swords.

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Postby Lower Negev » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:29 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.


People these days think that supporting gun rights is conservative. But in the old days only the nobility was allowed to own weapons, and weapons were forbidden for common folk. And I agree that weapon ownership should be more limited. Indeed, I would not object to the idea that only the government should own guns. Furthermore, I think that these newfangled fire-arms are overrated and that people ought to go back to using bows and arrows or swords.


The right to bare crossbows shall not be infringed.

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Postby Greater Westralia » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:30 pm

Lower Negev wrote:The right to bare crossbows shall not be infringed.

As long as you're not pointing them at Christians.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:08 pm

Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

I think it would be hard to legislate against bare arms. We have a social norm of baring our arms in a lot of contexts, especially when swimming and engaging in other recreational outdoor activities.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:24 pm

Lower Negev wrote:
Senkaku wrote:bare your arms all you want (the farmer's tan is a scourge), please let the professionals handle the guns tho lol


Ive been shooting since my grandfather took me out when I was barely old enough to read. I'd say I am a lot more professional than some of these doofus security contractors running around now or a marine fresh out of basic.

that's cool, most people haven't been tho, and are liable to shoot themselves, their romantic partners, their friends, their kids, or a bunch of strangers, sometimes on accident, so ultimately not really relevant is it
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Postby Fahran » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:01 am

Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

Well, I am the conservative, nationalistic, gun-toting Jewish Southern belle that your momma warned you about and that tends to imply a degree of "no steppy on me" and "muh 2nd Amendment." I believe in a well-armed, well-trained citizenry.

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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:07 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.


People these days think that supporting gun rights is conservative. But in the old days only the nobility was allowed to own weapons, and weapons were forbidden for common folk. And I agree that weapon ownership should be more limited. Indeed, I would not object to the idea that only the government should own guns. Furthermore, I think that these newfangled fire-arms are overrated and that people ought to go back to using bows and arrows or swords.

I think having it so that the only people who may legally own a firearm are agents of the government could make corruption and authoritarianism a lot easier to happen.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:08 am

Fahran wrote:
Lower Negev wrote:New guy here:
What is the consensus here on the right to bare arms? I am not entirely right-wing but feel very strongly that firearms laws should be extremely permissive.

Well, I am the conservative, nationalistic, gun-toting Jewish Southern belle that your momma warned you about and that tends to imply a degree of "no steppy on me" and "muh 2nd Amendment." I believe in a well-armed, well-trained citizenry.


I doubt many mommas know what Jews are.
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Postby Confederate States of German America » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:09 am

Superman is the epitome of the Liberal conception of America, while Batman is the Rightist realization of what must be done in an American context.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:12 am

Y’all got a handy list of National Syndicalist tenets, lads?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:13 am

Confederate States of German America wrote:Superman is the epitome of the Liberal conception of America, while Batman is the Rightist realization of what must be done in an American context.


The Punisher is a hundred times better than Batman don't even @ me
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