Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

I mean that is an interesting concept but the US has a greater population than the entirety of the rest of North America combined.

So a United NA still has a majority of people who were Americans citizens before.

South America is also not as Americanized and Brazil is too large and different to be easy to incorporate.

One at a time, I get it, United NA first, later, the world SA. =^)

No, a world state is indeed the goal. More specifically, a federal (or confederal) semi-direct democracy under a multi-party parliamentary elective constitutional monarchy. It's a nice and sensible system, at least in my view.

[Conserative Morality]

One at a time, I get it, United NA first, later, the world SA. =^)

No, a world state is indeed the goal. More specifically, a federal (or confederal) semi-direct democracy under a multi-party parliamentary elective constitutional monarchy. It's a nice and sensible system, at least in my view.

Fuck no. The old world can rot. Leave them to their blood feuds. And fuck monarchy, that's another old world concept. And while we're at it, fuck parliamentary systems too! And direct democracy!

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

No, a world state is indeed the goal. More specifically, a federal (or confederal) semi-direct democracy under a multi-party parliamentary elective constitutional monarchy. It's a nice and sensible system, at least in my view.

Fuck no. The old world can rot. Leave them to their blood feuds. And fuck monarchy, that's another old world concept. And while we're at it, fuck parliamentary systems too! And direct democracy!

I... beg your pardon? Please forgive me if I'm misinterpreting your tone, but you seem somewhat angry. Is something wrong? Did I misspeak? My apologies if that is the case, I can assure you that I had no ill intent.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I mean that is an interesting concept but the US has a greater population than the entirety of the rest of North America combined.

So a United NA still has a majority of people who were Americans citizens before.

South America is also not as Americanized and Brazil is too large and different to be easy to incorporate.

One at a time, I get it, United NA first, later, the world SA. =^)

Imagine only having one sun that never sets on your empire
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[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

One at a time, I get it, United NA first, later, the world SA. =^)

Imagine only having one sun that never sets on your empire
this post made by galactic manifest destiny gang

My dude, patience is a virtue. Our misguided Xeno brother and sisters will embrace the Greater Good eventually.

[Valrifell]

No, a world state is indeed the goal. More specifically, a federal (or confederal) semi-direct democracy under a multi-party parliamentary elective constitutional monarchy. It's a nice and sensible system, at least in my view.

Fuck no. The old world can rot. Leave them to their blood feuds. And fuck monarchy, that's another old world concept. And while we're at it, fuck parliamentary systems too! And direct democracy!

Wait, no, go back, can we keep direct democracy? We can rebrand it.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Imagine only having one sun that never sets on your empire
this post made by galactic manifest destiny gang

My dude, patience is a virtue. Our misguided Xeno brother and sisters will embrace the Greater Good eventually.

*loads boltgun*
He's fallen to Tau propaganda. Shoot to kill. The Emperor President protects.

[Conserative Morality]

Fuck no. The old world can rot. Leave them to their blood feuds. And fuck monarchy, that's another old world concept. And while we're at it, fuck parliamentary systems too! And direct democracy!

Wait, no, go back, can we keep direct democracy? We can rebrand it.

Nah, there's a reason division of labor exists.

[Totally Not OEP]

Enrico Fermi had a Jewish wife, one of the reasons he moved to the US was to escape rising European anti Semitism.
While it was not all Jews, the certainly made a big difference.
German Jews did play a big role in the Manhattan project.
Killing, exiling or reducing some of your best scientists to manual labor slaves is always a bad idea.

To an extent, yes, but I strongly urge caution against overestimating their value in terms of being a deciding factor in the German atomic effort.

Had Germany not been so anti-Semitic (had it won WWI) it would be in a much better place.

Being in the same place theoretically is not in the same place practically.
Again the Soviets were in the same place theoretically as the US in 1945, but still had to spend 4 years building the necessary infrastructure.
Turning nuclear weapons theory into an actually realized weapon takes an enormous amount of labor, materials and money. And the construction of very expensive infrastructure.

Given Germany’s wartime constraints and the constant attacks on the limited nuclear infrastructure it did have, the only way to get where it needed would be not invade Poland in the first place.

I think you're missing the point; if the Germans have the theoretical basis by early 1940, then you can assume they spend the same four years the Soviets did doing the practical work to get nuclear weapons...by 1944. No one is arguing they can build instant nukes, but if they do get their bases right they had the capacity to maintain their atomic lead. Nuclear equipped He-177s even in Mid-1944 is a decisive weapon for the Third Reich.

[Senkaku]

Enrico Fermi had a Jewish wife, one of the reasons he moved to the US was to escape rising European anti Semitism.
While it was not all Jews, the certainly made a big difference.
German Jews did play a big role in the Manhattan project.
Killing, exiling or reducing some of your best scientists to manual labor slaves is always a bad idea.

To an extent, yes, but I strongly urge caution against overestimating their value in terms of being a deciding factor in the German atomic effort.

Well, they were certainly a deciding factor in the American atomic effort. Einstein was literally the dude who tipped Roosevelt off that the bomb was even possible and that Germany might be working on one.

[Totally Not OEP]

To an extent, yes, but I strongly urge caution against overestimating their value in terms of being a deciding factor in the German atomic effort.

Well, they were certainly a deciding factor in the American atomic effort. Einstein was literally the dude who tipped Roosevelt off that the bomb was even possible and that Germany might be working on one.

That was literally his only real contribution, and even then as late as August of 1941 the focus of U.S. Atomic efforts was geared towards.....submarine propulsion. It took Mark Oliphant coming to America to rally the scientific establishment to focus on the bomb, as well as get the political establishment to increase the priority of the project. Even more important, however, was the fact it literally took Oliphant to get the Americans to accept the MAUD report the British had made; it was literally sitting in a locked safe being ignored when he arrived.

[Salus Maior]

I for one wouldn't be surprised : P

On a related note, you know it is really surprising how much of a turnaround the Evangelicals in America have made in terms of caring about the moral backbone of people in power.

[Totally Not OEP]

I for one wouldn't be surprised

On a related note, you know it is really surprising how much of a turnaround the Evangelicals in America have made in terms of caring about the moral backbone of people in power.

Not really, it's more a matter of realpolitik; Trump has secured a Conservative SCOTUS, which justifies voting for him alone on social conservative grounds. Whatever his personal failings, the fact his appointments will vote Right on issues before the court on such things as Abortion are what motivated Evangelicals.

[Salus Maior]

I for one wouldn't be surprised

On a related note, you know it is really surprising how much of a turnaround the Evangelicals in America have made in terms of caring about the moral backbone of people in power.

Not really, it's more a matter of realpolitik; Trump has secured a Conservative SCOTUS, which justifies voting for him alone on social conservative grounds. Whatever his personal failings, the fact his appointments will vote Right on issues before the court on such things as Abortion are what motivated Evangelicals.

While that is true, Evangelicals have really gone overboard in essentially beatifying Trump.

It is common to hear that he's, and this is a direct quote from a lot of Evangelicals I've heard, is that Trump is the "Anointed One" and "The most Christian president we've ever had".

[Totally Not OEP]

Not really, it's more a matter of realpolitik; Trump has secured a Conservative SCOTUS, which justifies voting for him alone on social conservative grounds. Whatever his personal failings, the fact his appointments will vote Right on issues before the court on such things as Abortion are what motivated Evangelicals.

While that is true, Evangelicals have really gone overboard in essentially beatifying Trump.

It is common to hear that he's, and this is a direct quote from a lot of Evangelicals I've heard, is that Trump is the "Anointed One" and "The most Christian president we've ever had".

I've heard the same, but you have to take in context that mostly comes from Boomers that believe everything they read on Facebook.

[Diopolis]

Tbh if Republicans could get over their racism they'd get a lot of support from Mexican Catholics. The US isn't the only country with conservative Christians.

I'm aware of that; but do you really think Republicans will do that?

Hispanic men in Texas now vote about as republican as the general population- and this for one of the most conservative republican parties in the country, in a state where there's still a conservative wing to the democrat party.
Now Hispanic women do not, but then again white women don't vote as republican as their husbands either.

[Nea Byzantia]

I'm aware of that; but do you really think Republicans will do that?

Hispanic men in Texas now vote about as republican as the general population- and this for one of the most conservative republican parties in the country, in a state where there's still a conservative wing to the democrat party.
Now Hispanic women do not, but then again white women don't vote as republican as their husbands either.

Interesting.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

The Dems are currently using the Mexicans; but one day soon it will be the Mexicans using the Dems...

Tbh if Republicans could get over their racism they'd get a lot of support from Mexican Catholics. The US isn't the only country with conservative Christians.

The party’s leaders are either too racist or too dumb to do that.

[Totally Not OEP]

On the matter of Hispanics and the GOP, it's important to note two things:

1. 1986 Immigration Act
2. Dubya's compassionate conservativism

The big deal in American politics is that American Mexicans tend to be more Left wing than Mexicans within Mexico; this seems to be a usual pattern for new immigrant groups here. There's only so much you can do to actually appeal to them, but in the long run they'll assimilate to the point they'll start to vote like Whites do. In fact, we're already seeing the signs of such to quite an extent.

[Diopolis]

Hispanic men in Texas now vote about as republican as the general population- and this for one of the most conservative republican parties in the country, in a state where there's still a conservative wing to the democrat party.
Now Hispanic women do not, but then again white women don't vote as republican as their husbands either.

Interesting.

Note that that pattern doesn't hold in other states with large Hispanic populations.
It's kind of a local feature of state politics, where the old people yelling at the millenials that they need to be more like mexicans and actually work for a living, while consistently positive economic growth and a GOP that's managed to convince the general (in-state)public they're a better bet for improving education than the dems all combine with Spanish social welfare programs mostly being run by a Catholic church that generally isn't as shy about dabbling in politics as it is in the rest of the country creates a perfect storm to have statewide republican figures get 50% of the hispanic vote.

[Salus Maior]

While that is true, Evangelicals have really gone overboard in essentially beatifying Trump.

It is common to hear that he's, and this is a direct quote from a lot of Evangelicals I've heard, is that Trump is the "Anointed One" and "The most Christian president we've ever had".

I've heard the same, but you have to take in context that mostly comes from Boomers that believe everything they read on Facebook.

Honestly, it's with a lot of young people too. (I say this because I have a kind of inroad with that community because I was raised in it before converting to Catholicism)

My sister is one of them.

Another related satire.

[Hanafuridake]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

Police say Hasegawa confessed to leaving the knives because he “was not satisfied with the imperial system and the succession,” arguing that under that system “Japan won’t get better,” local media reported.

Hasegawa confessed that he intended to stab Hisahito, news outlets reported, but ended up just leaving the knives to let the prince know he had been there. Why the knives were painted pink and bound to a bar was not explained.

This is some good news, although disturbing that the prince's life was really in danger.

Women are not allowed to inherit the throne, making Hisahito the imperial family’s only young heir.

Before Hisahito was born, the government had considered changing the law to allow women to inherit the throne, but it shelved the plan after his birth. It says it will reopen the debate this year.

Oh my God just shut up about female succession.

[Diopolis]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/school-intruder-says-he-intended-to-stab-young-japanese-prince-police-say/2019/05/08/d388bbfa-7177-11e9-b5ca-3d72a9fa8ff1_story.html

Police say Hasegawa confessed to leaving the knives because he “was not satisfied with the imperial system and the succession,” arguing that under that system “Japan won’t get better,” local media reported.

Hasegawa confessed that he intended to stab Hisahito, news outlets reported, but ended up just leaving the knives to let the prince know he had been there. Why the knives were painted pink and bound to a bar was not explained.

This is some good news, although disturbing that the prince's life was really in danger.

Women are not allowed to inherit the throne, making Hisahito the imperial family’s only young heir.

Before Hisahito was born, the government had considered changing the law to allow women to inherit the throne, but it shelved the plan after his birth. It says it will reopen the debate this year.

Oh my God just shut up about female succession.

America: Someone tries to kill children, we talk about guns.
Japan: Someone tries to kill children, we talk about feminism.
I've always felt a certain amount of sympathy for Hisahito; knowing from birth that you're the last shot to rebuild your family isn't easy. Now there are crazy people trying to kill you to foster their agenda, and the people responsible for protecting you are trying to reward their threats by furthering their agenda.
St. Dominic Savio protect the boy.

[Totally Not OEP]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/school-intruder-says-he-intended-to-stab-young-japanese-prince-police-say/2019/05/08/d388bbfa-7177-11e9-b5ca-3d72a9fa8ff1_story.html

Police say Hasegawa confessed to leaving the knives because he “was not satisfied with the imperial system and the succession,” arguing that under that system “Japan won’t get better,” local media reported.

Hasegawa confessed that he intended to stab Hisahito, news outlets reported, but ended up just leaving the knives to let the prince know he had been there. Why the knives were painted pink and bound to a bar was not explained.

This is some good news, although disturbing that the prince's life was really in danger.

Women are not allowed to inherit the throne, making Hisahito the imperial family’s only young heir.

Before Hisahito was born, the government had considered changing the law to allow women to inherit the throne, but it shelved the plan after his birth. It says it will reopen the debate this year.

Oh my God just shut up about female succession.

We live in a society...

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/school-intruder-says-he-intended-to-stab-young-japanese-prince-police-say/2019/05/08/d388bbfa-7177-11e9-b5ca-3d72a9fa8ff1_story.html

Police say Hasegawa confessed to leaving the knives because he “was not satisfied with the imperial system and the succession,” arguing that under that system “Japan won’t get better,” local media reported.

Hasegawa confessed that he intended to stab Hisahito, news outlets reported, but ended up just leaving the knives to let the prince know he had been there. Why the knives were painted pink and bound to a bar was not explained.

This is some good news, although disturbing that the prince's life was really in danger.

Women are not allowed to inherit the throne, making Hisahito the imperial family’s only young heir.

Before Hisahito was born, the government had considered changing the law to allow women to inherit the throne, but it shelved the plan after his birth. It says it will reopen the debate this year.

Oh my God just shut up about female succession.

As much as I disagree with hereditary succession... sigh I can't believe that this has to be stated One shouldn't go about trying to stab a child to death.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/school-intruder-says-he-intended-to-stab-young-japanese-prince-police-say/2019/05/08/d388bbfa-7177-11e9-b5ca-3d72a9fa8ff1_story.html



This is some good news, although disturbing that the prince's life was really in danger.


Oh my God just shut up about female succession.

We live in a society...

We live in a society where apparently the concept of, y'know, not attempting to murder children for political purposes is apparently a radical thought.

And while I understand that "We live in a society" is a meme, now doesn't seem to be a decent time for memes, if you catch my drift.