Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[Valrifell]

Don't Christians believe Christ will rise again to fufill the rest of the requirements to be Messiah?

[Erythrean Thebes]

Anyway, I'd like to wish everyone here a happy V-E Day!

And remember, guys: don't be a sucker!!

[Soviet Tankistan]

Anyway, I'd like to wish everyone here a happy V-E Day!

Thank our Soviet comrades who did the heavy fighting and hard work. I am very appreciative of them. I hope to watch the victory parade later on YouTube.

[Salus Maior]

Jesus wasn't the mashiach since he didn't fulfill the prophesies associated with the mashiach and Christianity is a religion that is largely alien in its precepts to Judaism. I do respect Christianity, especially certain theologians, philosophers, and jurists who set the foundation for the society in which I currently live, but I don't accept it as my faith and believe, to a significant degree, that it is incorrect about the nature of G-d and the universe. I actually view Judaism as more similar to Islam, a religion which I respect while likewise believing it to be incorrect, but we're still our own thing.

Interesting. Could I just ask, in what ways is Judaism more similar to Islam than to Christianity?

Strict legalism.

Edit: Alternatively explained.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Interesting. Could I just ask, in what ways is Judaism more similar to Islam than to Christianity?

Strict legalism.

And "radical" monotheism.

[Salus Maior]

The Greeks are the Free-For-All shitshow? Buddy, do I need to remind you of the 30 years war?

Honestly that was more because the HRE at the time was a free-for-all shitshow than the Church.

[Salus Maior]

Anyway, I'd like to wish everyone here a happy V-E Day!

Thank our Soviet comrades who did the heavy fighting and hard work. I am very appreciative of them. I hope to watch the victory parade later on YouTube.

[Torrocca]

Thank our Soviet comrades who did the heavy fighting and hard work. I am very appreciative of them. I hope to watch the victory parade later on YouTube.

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

[Proctopeo]

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

You can't deny the importance of the American lend-lease to them not, you know, losing the Eastern Front...

[The Grims]

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

You can't deny the importance of the American lend-lease to them not, you know, losing the Eastern Front...

You cannot, but it is certainly true the Soviets fought more and better. Still would have lost without the allies.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

You can't deny the importance of the American lend-lease to them not, you know, losing the Eastern Front...

Yes, but that's still the USSR losing 28 million soldiers and civilians so the United States and United Kingdom didn't have to. Might as well be a little appreciative.

[Proctopeo]

You can't deny the importance of the American lend-lease to them not, you know, losing the Eastern Front...

You cannot, but it is certainly true the Soviets fought more and better. Still would have lost without the allies.

"More" and "Better" are subjective, though.

[United Muscovite Nations]

You cannot, but it is certainly true the Soviets fought more and better. Still would have lost without the allies.

"More" and "Better" are subjective, though.

More isn't.

[Proctopeo]

"More" and "Better" are subjective, though.

More isn't.

Metrics for determining what counts as "more" are subjective, I mean. War dead? Battles fought? Territory occupied? Which of these counts as having fought "more"? Technically any to all of them.

[Salus Maior]

>> implying Caesar wasn't a liberal
>> implying he wasn't a pro-immigrant imperialist who championed the lower classes against the excesses of the aristocracy and archaic traditions
>> implying though he conquered Gaul, Nicomedes didn't conquer Caesar

I'm not really a fan of applying modern political affiliations to ancient figures who wouldn't be at all familiar with them (and considering Roman politicians often 'championed' the lower classes as a means to their own power, I wouldn't really give him credit for that).

Same deal with calling Jesus or His Apostles "socialist".

[Salus Maior]

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

Western countries also contributed a ton and lost a lot.

The Russians weren't that helpful on the Pacific front.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

Western countries also contributed a ton and lost a lot.

The Russians weren't that helpful on the Pacific front.

There were battles on the Eastern Front which were larger than the entire Western front. And the Pacific front was a sideshow.

[United Muscovite Nations]

More isn't.

Metrics for determining what counts as "more" are subjective, I mean. War dead? Battles fought? Territory occupied? Which of these counts as having fought "more"? Technically any to all of them.

In terms of all of those metrics you mentioned, the USSR fought more. Curious.

[Salus Maior]

Western countries also contributed a ton and lost a lot.

The Russians weren't that helpful on the Pacific front.

There were battles on the Eastern Front which were larger than the entire Western front. And the Pacific front was a sideshow.

Not to the U.S, China, and pretty much all the other countries involved.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

There were battles on the Eastern Front which were larger than the entire Western front. And the Pacific front was a sideshow.

Not to the U.S, China, and pretty much all the other countries involved.

>China
>Pacific Front
*laughs*

[Novus America]

Western countries also contributed a ton and lost a lot.

The Russians weren't that helpful on the Pacific front.

There were battles on the Eastern Front which were larger than the entire Western front. And the Pacific front was a sideshow.

The Pacific front was not a side show to the more than 30 million who died.
And actually Japan had a larger population than Germany and a military just as large.

[Diopolis]

I mean, they're not wrong, considering the Eastern Front saw literally millions of soldiers dying.

You can't deny the importance of the American lend-lease to them not, you know, losing the Eastern Front...

Bah. Should've stayed out of it and let the monsters destroy each other.

[United Muscovite Nations]

There were battles on the Eastern Front which were larger than the entire Western front. And the Pacific front was a sideshow.

Not to the U.S, China, and pretty much all the other countries involved.

I was considering the Chinese front separate, but even so, the Chinese fought there a lot more than the Americans.

[Salus Maior]

Not to the U.S, China, and pretty much all the other countries involved.

>China
>Pacific Front
*laughs*

The Pacific front meaning Japan's war.

[Proctopeo]

Metrics for determining what counts as "more" are subjective, I mean. War dead? Battles fought? Territory occupied? Which of these counts as having fought "more"? Technically any to all of them.

In terms of all of those metrics you mentioned, the USSR fought more. Curious.

Fair enough I suppose, but what about "better"?
Oh, and if we go from flat dead to dead as a percentage of population, the Soviets sit behind Poland, Nauru, and Lithuania.
One part of the Soviet Union in particular did have an overwhelmingly high percentage, Belarus.

Western countries also contributed a ton and lost a lot.

The Russians weren't that helpful on the Pacific front.

There were battles on the Eastern Front which were larger than the entire Western front. And the Pacific front was a sideshow.

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