Conserative Morality wrote:Joohan wrote:Sight me an example were material wealth did not overcome the limitations of bigotry in a society.
Roman freedmen, infames, and peregrini.
Jews in Europe.
Moriscos in Spain.
Merchants in feudal societies.
Merchants in Confucian societies.
Merchants in feudal Confucian societies.
American blacks before the Civil Rights Movement.
1. Didn't the freedmen do quite well for themselves in Roman society? Such a huge part of the Roman bureaucracy and administration that I think either Claudius or Hadrian had to enact Roman Affirmative Action just to make sure they didn't completely dominate civil service.I think The only people who could really talk down with authority to them were the more traditional aristocracy.
2. Poor got massacred, the rich would pay bribes for their protection
3. were never an affluent group to begin with
4. Merchants weren't trusted by the locals... so what? If not respected, merchants were an extremely powerful and influential class throughout the Medieval age
5. Same as their counterparts in Europe.
6. Again, astoundingly poor. Though, for those who did manage to become rich, their lot in society was quite fantastic: C. J. Walker, Jeremiah Walker had no trouble with being black after becoming millionaires.