Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[Nea Byzantia]

I'm not Catholic or Protestant...I could care less about what sh*t they did.

Yet you repeat with zeal their agitation propaganda.

I mean...I'm technically Catholic...I'm just not a Papist...I'm a True Catholic

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Yet you repeat with zeal their agitation propaganda.

I mean...I'm technically Catholic...I'm just not a Papist...I'm a True Catholic

Is Orthodox Agitation Propaganda against the Ancient Romano-Hellenistic religions any different from Catholic/Protestant Agitation Propaganda? I think you will find that they were one and the same for 600+ years.

[Conserative Morality]

Can we go back to the fact that the foundation for monogamy is in secular Roman law, not Christian or Judaic law?

[Nea Byzantia]

I mean...I'm technically Catholic...I'm just not a Papist...I'm a True Catholic

Is Orthodox Agitation Propaganda against the Ancient Romano-Hellenistic religions any different from Catholic/Protestant Agitation Propaganda? I think you will find that they were one and the same for 600+ years.

Protestants didn't even come into existence until 500 or so years after the Papists split the Church; and as for the Roman Catholics; they changed a lot over those 500 years. Rome, in the first 1,000 years of Christianity was Orthodox; not the other way around - Orthodoxy was not Catholic or Protestant. Never was; never will be.

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

[Nea Byzantia]

Can we go back to the fact that the foundation for monogamy is in secular Roman law, not Christian or Judaic law?

No. Because that's backwards. Why would secular law enforce monogamy without some sort of religious origin?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Protestants didn't even come into existence until 500 or so years after the Papists split the Church; and as for the Roman Catholics; they changed a lot over those 500 years. Rome, in the first 1,000 years of Christianity was Orthodox; not the other way around - Orthodoxy was not Catholic or Protestant. Never was; never will be.

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

None.

All in all is it thus any wonder that Toyotomi Hideyoshi and the Tokugawa shogunate following him sought out to utterly destroy Christendom in Japan?

[Conserative Morality]

Can we go back to the fact that the foundation for monogamy is in secular Roman law, not Christian or Judaic law?

No. Because that's backwards. Why would secular law enforce monogamy without some sort of religious backing?

Because:

1. Religions untouched by Roman law are not actually very keen on monogamy

2. Monogamy is a form of social 'leveling', which was very important to the Res Publica

[Conserative Morality]

Protestants didn't even come into existence until 500 or so years after the Papists split the Church; and as for the Roman Catholics; they changed a lot over those 500 years. Rome, in the first 1,000 years of Christianity was Orthodox; not the other way around - Orthodoxy was not Catholic or Protestant. Never was; never will be.

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

None.

All in all is it thus any wonder that Toyotomi Hideyoshi and his followers sought out to utterly destroy Christendom in Japan?

Okay, but Nobunaga had the real right idea - play the Buddhists and the Christians against each other.

[Nea Byzantia]

Protestants didn't even come into existence until 500 or so years after the Papists split the Church; and as for the Roman Catholics; they changed a lot over those 500 years. Rome, in the first 1,000 years of Christianity was Orthodox; not the other way around - Orthodoxy was not Catholic or Protestant. Never was; never will be.

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

None.

All in all is it thus any wonder that Toyotomi Hideyoshi and the Tokugawa shogunate following him sought out to utterly destroy Christendom in Japan?

You mean Jesuit Christendom? European Christian Monarchs even turned against that.

[Conserative Morality]

This is your daily reminder that Caesar was a hero in every sense of the word.

[Old Tyrannia]

This is literally the state mandating sinful relationships.

You've absorbed unscriptural Catholic teachings about marriage and combined them with a brazen totalitarianism to produce something more resembling IngSoc than anything authentically Christian.

Well, I figure it is either that or permitting same-sex marriage. Which would you prefer?

I think that there's a sound theological argument for same-sex marriage, so the latter.

[Benuty]

Don't we already have a high divorce rate and widespread breakdown of families? Didn't societies in the past with arranged marriage have lower divorce rates? What do you think becoming one flesh means? Isn't having children together becoming one flesh? And wouldn't this system be more in line with right-wing conservative values?

Your idea is bad and you should feel bad.

Memes aside, it really is a bad fucking idea, like all ideas social conservatism has come up with.

Buddhist universal kingship is what will save humanity. If only we had a Chakravartin.

I have no idea what that is, but down with monarchs! WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS!

Working class dictatorships are a form of degeneracy.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

Myself and a few other people on NSG are Hellenists, and he doesn't come around much anymore but there was one Anarcho-Communist guy whose name escapes me atm who worshipped the Slavic pantheon.

Also Internationalist Bastard has at least some sort of interest in traditional Chinese religions and Mongol polytheism.

[Nova Cyberia]

Your idea is bad and you should feel bad.

Memes aside, it really is a bad fucking idea, like all ideas social conservatism has come up with.



I have no idea what that is, but down with monarchs! WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS!

Working class dictatorships are a form of degeneracy.

the arrogance to think they represent all workers is hilarious, btw.

communists do not speak for me or my interests, and i say this as a working class man myself.

[Greater Istanistan]

You mean Jesuit Christendom? European Christian Monarchs even turned against that.

Are you implying that the Jesuits don't represent the Catholic church?

[Benuty]

Full-Time Summer poster and acolyte of Washington Resistance Armyism

Paganism isn't a proper Religion, though.

Depends on how you define what begins as a proper religion. Christianity was thought to be a form of atheism by the roman polytheists before their faith was found wanting, and a new one focused on familial values, and cohesion overtook them. So sure in a way it was ultimately proven not to be a proper religion if only because it lost out.

[Nova Cyberia]

Paganism isn't a proper Religion, though.

Depends on how you define what begins as a proper religion. Christianity was thought to be a form of atheism by the roman polytheists before their faith was found wanting, and a new one focused on familial values, and cohesion overtook them. So sure in a way it was ultimately proven not to be a proper religion if only because it lost out.

Constantine the Great did nothing wrong.

historical fact.

[Hammer Britannia]

Depends on how you define what begins as a proper religion. Christianity was thought to be a form of atheism by the roman polytheists before their faith was found wanting, and a new one focused on familial values, and cohesion overtook them. So sure in a way it was ultimately proven not to be a proper religion if only because it lost out.

Constantine the Great did nothing wrong.

historical fact.

He really didn't, he was an individual and had the full right to convert to a religion he believes in.

Though it was probably just political-play as Christianity was a growing force in the Empire.

[Benuty]

>>>when you're surrounded on all sides by rabid Liberals...

>> implying Caesar wasn't a liberal
>> implying he wasn't a pro-immigrant imperialist who championed the lower classes against the excesses of the aristocracy and archaic traditions
>> implying though he conquered Gaul, Nicomedes didn't conquer Caesar

Caesar was a reformist so long as it suited his political, and social agenda. The man may have been militarily sound, but politically his actions were guided out of obligation, and pragmatism rather than on the pure principle of reform alone.

[Old Tyrannia]

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

Myself and a few other people on NSG are Hellenists, and he doesn't come around much anymore but there was one Anarcho-Communist guy whose name escapes me atm who worshipped the Slavic pantheon.

Also Internationalist Bastard has at least some sort of interest in traditional Chinese religions and Mongol polytheism.

Tell the emperor that my hall has fallen to the ground. Phoibos no longer has his house, nor his mantic bay, nor his prophetic spring; the water has dried up.

[Benuty]

Constantine the Great did nothing wrong.

historical fact.

He really didn't, he was an individual and had the full right to convert to a religion he believes in.

Though it was probably just political-play as Christianity was a growing force in the Empire.

The only thing he did wrong was waiting until his deathbed to become an actual Christian.It's more or so the reason why Theodosius is treated as the first Christian emperor.

[Benuty]

Myself and a few other people on NSG are Hellenists, and he doesn't come around much anymore but there was one Anarcho-Communist guy whose name escapes me atm who worshipped the Slavic pantheon.

Also Internationalist Bastard has at least some sort of interest in traditional Chinese religions and Mongol polytheism.

Tell the emperor that my hall has fallen to the ground. Phoibos no longer has his house, nor his mantic bay, nor his prophetic spring; the water has dried up.

The perfection of despair.

[Nea Byzantia]

You mean Jesuit Christendom? European Christian Monarchs even turned against that.

Are you implying that the Jesuits don't represent the Catholic church?

They certainly represent the Papist Church; but no, they do not represent the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

[Benuty]

Are you implying that the Jesuits don't represent the Catholic church?

They certainly represent the Papist Church; but no, they do not represent the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

Well at the moment the papists are having a bit of a row over the Pope being a heretic so who knows.

[Benuty]

Anyways, sh*tposting aside; I'm genuinely curious; which gods do you worship?

Myself and a few other people on NSG are Hellenists, and he doesn't come around much anymore but there was one Anarcho-Communist guy whose name escapes me atm who worshipped the Slavic pantheon.

Also Internationalist Bastard has at least some sort of interest in traditional Chinese religions and Mongol polytheism.

I can at least sympathize with people who think their gods are real, and not metaphors. I recall some of the Asatru claiming Odin was a metaphor, and suffice to say its pretty idiotic.